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Liberals Defend Charlie Hebdo but Wouldn't Allow it on Campus in America
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They don't have to. They don't in corporations or the military either, that's for the sidewalk. Now find me a link where a kid was expelled for reading a publication? Go...Never head that before about a publication. You get that out of your butt again my little infant?Liberals Defend Charlie Hebdo but Wouldn't Allow it on Campus in America
Why the fuck not? I can't think of a reason, not a one.
Making fun of Muslims or Muhammad is "hate speech," don't you know. They don't allow that on university campuses.
Do you ever watch the news? Man students have been suspended from school for so-called "hate speech." They don't practice freedom of speech on universality campuses.
Public universities are public institutions. That means the have to obey the law, which includes not discriminating against any particular political view.
PaintMyHouse
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Where'd you get that crap from? Just because it's Public doesn't mean you get to stand up and praise Jesus proclaiming that God created the frog you are dissecting in the middle of your biology class. They have rules, and they are allowed to my little infant.They don't have to. They don't in corporations or the military either, that's for the sidewalk. Now find me a link where a kid was expelled for reading a publication? Go...Never head that before about a publication. You get that out of your butt again my little infant?Liberals Defend Charlie Hebdo but Wouldn't Allow it on Campus in America
Why the fuck not? I can't think of a reason, not a one.
Making fun of Muslims or Muhammad is "hate speech," don't you know. They don't allow that on university campuses.
Do you ever watch the news? Man students have been suspended from school for so-called "hate speech." They don't practice freedom of speech on universality campuses.
Public universities are public institutions. That means the have to obey the law, which includes not discriminating against any particular political view.
That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/opinion/david-brooks-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo.html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
They sort of defended Charlie Hebdo. They mostly said the magazine brought it on itself. Perhaps some backtracked after the massive outpouring of support in Europe.
If someone published such a magazine on a college campus, the editors would be expelled from school for "hate speech."
Certain kinds of hate speech (and certain kinds of hate groups) are more than welcome on our college campuses:
"Khadija Lynch, the Brandeis University student whose obscene tweets about the recent murder of two New York City police officers have become a national scandal, won the backing of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP,) a violently anti-Semitic group, when she ran for election as a student senator in 2013."
Brandeis Radical Who Insulted Murdered NY Cops is Backed by Students for Justice in Palestine Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
I find the media , not politicians, not Muslims not people protesting police brutality, THE MEDIA needs to be examined here for their bias and unnecessary editorializing on events.
PaintMyHouse
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A college kid shoots off her mouth and oh my God, let's all freak out and wet our pants about it, or not...That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/opinion/david-brooks-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo.html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
They sort of defended Charlie Hebdo. They mostly said the magazine brought it on itself. Perhaps some backtracked after the massive outpouring of support in Europe.
If someone published such a magazine on a college campus, the editors would be expelled from school for "hate speech."
Certain kinds of hate speech (and certain kinds of hate groups) are more than welcome on our college campuses:
"Khadija Lynch, the Brandeis University student whose obscene tweets about the recent murder of two New York City police officers have become a national scandal, won the backing of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP,) a violently anti-Semitic group, when she ran for election as a student senator in 2013."
Brandeis Radical Who Insulted Murdered NY Cops is Backed by Students for Justice in Palestine Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
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Where'd you get that crap from? Just because it's Public doesn't mean you get to stand up and praise Jesus proclaiming that God created the frog you are dissecting in the middle of your biology class. They have rules, and they are allowed to my little infant.They don't have to. They don't in corporations or the military either, that's for the sidewalk. Now find me a link where a kid was expelled for reading a publication? Go...Never head that before about a publication. You get that out of your butt again my little infant?Making fun of Muslims or Muhammad is "hate speech," don't you know. They don't allow that on university campuses.
Do you ever watch the news? Man students have been suspended from school for so-called "hate speech." They don't practice freedom of speech on universality campuses.
Public universities are public institutions. That means the have to obey the law, which includes not discriminating against any particular political view.
No one said anything about doing it in the middle of biology class. However, you can do it in the public areas outside of the classroom. At least you should be able to. However, many students have been punished simply for expressing non-PC opinions.
California State University Fullerton Unconstitutional Investigation and Punishment of Sorority Over Inappropriate Theme Party FIRE
California State University, Fullerton: Unconstitutional Investigation and Punishment of Sorority Over ‘Inappropriate’ Theme Party
On August 19, 2014, the Alpha Delta Pi (ADP) sorority at California State University, Fullerton (CSUF) held a “Taco Tuesday”-themed recruitment event, at which many of its members wore Mexican clothing items and costumes. CSUF opened a disciplinary investigation of the sorority due to the perceived insensitivity of its members’ attire at the event. As part of a “Voluntary Administrative Review” process, CSUF declared ADP guilty of disrupting university operations, “[d]isorderly, lewd, [indecent], or obscene behavior,” and “[c]onduct that threaten or endangers the health or safety” of CSUF community members, among other violations. CSUF’s sanctions included requirements that ADP “coordinate a mandatory workshop on cultural competencies and diversity” and the “development of a ‘we are a culture not a costume’ campaign.” FIRE wrote to CSUF on September 26, 2014, calling the conduct charges and sanctions against ADP entirely without merit and unconstitutional, and demanded their complete and immediate dismissal.
On August 19, 2014, the Alpha Delta Pi (ADP) sorority at California State University, Fullerton (CSUF) held a “Taco Tuesday”-themed recruitment event, at which many of its members wore Mexican clothing items and costumes. CSUF opened a disciplinary investigation of the sorority due to the perceived insensitivity of its members’ attire at the event. As part of a “Voluntary Administrative Review” process, CSUF declared ADP guilty of disrupting university operations, “[d]isorderly, lewd, [indecent], or obscene behavior,” and “[c]onduct that threaten
"That's the argument David Brooks makes"
Actually not.
“Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.”
Where exactly are any of these universities or their administrators identified as 'liberal'?
And where exactly is it written, codified, and acknowledged that these entities are 'representative' of all 'liberals'?
Consequently there's no evidence whatsoever that 'liberals' would not allow Charlie Hebdo on college campuses; any such inference is a straw man fallacy.
Actually not.
“Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.”
Where exactly are any of these universities or their administrators identified as 'liberal'?
And where exactly is it written, codified, and acknowledged that these entities are 'representative' of all 'liberals'?
Consequently there's no evidence whatsoever that 'liberals' would not allow Charlie Hebdo on college campuses; any such inference is a straw man fallacy.
That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/opinion/david-brooks-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo.html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
They sort of defended Charlie Hebdo. They mostly said the magazine brought it on itself. Perhaps some backtracked after the massive outpouring of support in Europe.
If someone published such a magazine on a college campus, the editors would be expelled from school for "hate speech."
Certain kinds of hate speech (and certain kinds of hate groups) are more than welcome on our college campuses:
"Khadija Lynch, the Brandeis University student whose obscene tweets about the recent murder of two New York City police officers have become a national scandal, won the backing of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP,) a violently anti-Semitic group, when she ran for election as a student senator in 2013."
Brandeis Radical Who Insulted Murdered NY Cops is Backed by Students for Justice in Palestine Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
A college kid shoots off her mouth and oh my God, let's all freak out and wet our pants about it, or not...
It seems OK for Khadija to spew her hate but "racist" (and perhaps worthy of expulsion) for anyone to notice it.
More from the same article:
Lynch’s tweets about the murdered officers were highlighted by Daniel Mael... who has energetically countered SJP’s activities on campus, is presently facing harassment and calls for his expulsion from university radicals who have decried him as a “white supremacist” for the offense of drawing attention to Lynch’s extraordinary online rant, which included such missives as “i just really dont have sympathy for the cops who were shot. i hate this racist f**king country” and “amerikkka needs an intifada. enough is enough.”
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Yeah...and...so what? There's no point to your post.That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/o...html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
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Yeah...and...so what? There's no point to your post.That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/opinion/david-brooks-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo.html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
To you, I'm sure there's not.
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Wow, interesting piece from the liberal Salon mag:
The left 8217 s Charlie Hebdo dilemma How to feel about the magazine its cartoons - Salon.com
From the piece:
Muslims aren’t the problem – violent extremists are. It’s the same difference as that between law-abiding Christian conservatives who oppose abortion, and fanatics who decide to bomb abortion clinics. To not recognise this difference is ironically to adopt the same view as right-wing bigots who see all Muslims as marauding terrorists.
And:
Regardless of the true nature of Charlie Hebdo’s racial politics, we can certainly distinguish between its cartoons lampooning ordinary Muslims, and those which stand as a political statement defiantly declaring that even Islam is a topic that is not above satire or reproach.
The PC Police aren't gonna like this one. They're being told they have to calculate how to "feel" about that slaughter.
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Wow, interesting piece from the liberal Salon mag:
The left 8217 s Charlie Hebdo dilemma How to feel about the magazine its cartoons - Salon.com
From the piece:
Muslims aren’t the problem – violent extremists are. It’s the same difference as that between law-abiding Christian conservatives who oppose abortion, and fanatics who decide to bomb abortion clinics. To not recognise this difference is ironically to adopt the same view as right-wing bigots who see all Muslims as marauding terrorists.
And:
Regardless of the true nature of Charlie Hebdo’s racial politics, we can certainly distinguish between its cartoons lampooning ordinary Muslims, and those which stand as a political statement defiantly declaring that even Islam is a topic that is not above satire or reproach.
The PC Police aren't gonna like this one. They're being told they have to calculate how to "feel" about that slaughter.
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I AM NOT CHARLIE
I look forward to an American Muslim magazine publishing weekly cartoons of Muhammad buttfucking Jesus?
NYcarbineer
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What do you do when 10% Muslims are extremists?
There are not 200 million Muslim extremists in the world.
Skull Pilot
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completely unrelated.Interesting.
Wasn't it conservatives who insisted that any funding be cut that was going to organizations associated with Serrano's Piss Christ and the works of Robert Mapplethorpe?
A university and and taxpayer funding of so called art have nothing to do with each other.
That said we should end the NEA.
Skull Pilot
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The writers at the magazine were not doing anything illegal when they were shot..
The hardcore American Left is more than ready to punish people for offending them.
The similarities are obvious.
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Why aren't you blaming the cartoonists for getting themselves shot? Didn't they instigate it?
You blamed the protestors over Garner in NY for getting the 2 cops shot. You said they were to blame...
NYcarbineer
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That's the argument David Brooks makes
The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are now rightly being celebrated as martyrs on behalf of freedom of expression, but let’s face it: If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds. Student and faculty groups would have accused them of hate speech. The administration would have cut financing and shut them down.
Public reaction to the attack in Paris has revealed that there are a lot of people who are quick to lionize those who offend the views of Islamist terrorists in France but who are a lot less tolerant toward those who offend their own views at home.
Just look at all the people who have overreacted to campus micro-aggressions. The University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality. The University of Kansas suspended a professor for writing a harsh tweet against the N.R.A. Vanderbilt University derecognized a Christian group that insisted that it be led by Christians.
Americans may laud Charlie Hebdo for being brave enough to publish cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad, but, if Ayaan Hirsi Ali is invited to campus, there are often calls to deny her a podium.
So this might be a teachable moment. As we are mortified by the slaughter of those writers and editors in Paris, it’s a good time to come up with a less hypocritical approach to our own controversial figures, provocateurs and satirists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/o...html?rref=collection/column/david-brooks&_r=0
Why is he accusing liberals here?
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I'm sure no "radical" Christians will storm the office with guns to kill everyone involvedI look forward to an American Muslim magazine publishing weekly cartoons of Muhammad buttfucking Jesus?
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