Liberalism: Making the French Revolution Its Own.

Wiki- French Revolution. To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.

The French Revolution (French: Révolution française [ʁevɔlysjɔ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) was an influential period of social and political upheaval in France that lasted from 1789 until 1799, and was partially carried forward by Napoleon during the later expansion of the French Empire. The Revolution overthrew the monarchy, established a republic, experienced violent periods of political turmoil, and finally culminated in a dictatorship by Napoleon that rapidly brought many of its principles to Western Europe and beyond. Inspired by liberal and radical ideas, the Revolution profoundly altered the course of modern history, triggering the global decline of absolute monarchies while replacing them with republics. Through the Revolutionary Wars, it unleashed a wave of global conflicts that extended from the Caribbean to the Middle East. Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history.[1][2][3]
The causes of the French Revolution are complex and are still debated among historians. Following the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War, the French government was deeply in debt and attempted to restore its financial status through unpopular taxation schemes. Years of bad harvests leading up to the Revolution also inflamed popular resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the clergy and the aristocracy. Demands for change were formulated in terms of Enlightenment ideals and contributed to the convocation of the Estates-General in May 1789. The first year of the Revolution saw members of the Third Estate taking control, the assault on the Bastille in July, the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in August, and a women's march on Versailles that forced the royal court back to Paris in October. A central event of the first stage, in August 1789, was the abolition of feudalism and the old rules and privileges left over from the Ancien Régime. The next few years featured political struggles between various liberal assemblies and right-wing supporters of the monarchy intent on thwarting major reforms. The Republic was proclaimed in September 1792 after the French victory at Valmy. In a momentous event that led to international condemnation, Louis XVI was executed in January 1793.
External threats closely shaped the course of the Revolution. The Revolutionary Wars beginning in 1792 ultimately featured French victories that facilitated the conquest of the Italian Peninsula, the Low Countries and most territories west of the Rhine – achievements that had eluded previous French governments for centuries. Internally, popular agitation radicalized the Revolution significantly, culminating in the rise of Maximilien Robespierre and the Jacobins. The dictatorship imposed by the Committee of Public Safety during the Reign of Terror, from 1793 until 1794, established price controls on food and other items, abolished slavery in French colonies abroad, dechristianized society through the creation of a new calendar and the expulsion of religious figures, and secured the borders of the new republic from its enemies. Large numbers of civilians were executed by revolutionary tribunals during the Terror, with estimates ranging from 16,000 to 40,000.[4] After the Thermidorian Reaction, an executive council known as the Directory assumed control of the French state in 1795. The rule of the Directory was characterized by suspended elections, debt repudiations, financial instability, persecutions against the Catholic clergy, and significant military conquests abroad.[5] Dogged by charges of corruption, the Directory collapsed in a coup led by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1799. Napoleon, who became the hero of the Revolution through his popular military campaigns, went on to establish the Consulate and later the First Empire, setting the stage for a wider array of global conflicts in the Napoleonic Wars.
The modern era has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution. Almost all future revolutionary movements looked back to the Revolution as their predecessor.[6] Its central phrases and cultural symbols, such as La Marseillaise and Liberté, égalité, fraternité, became the clarion call for other major upheavals in modern history, including the Russian Revolution over a century later.[7] The values and institutions of the Revolution dominate French politics to this day. French historian François Aulard comments that:
the Revolution consisted in the suppression of what was called the feudal system, in the emancipation of the individual, in greater division of landed property, the abolition of the privileges of noble birth, the establishment of equality, the simplification of life.... The French Revolution differed from other revolutions in being not merely national, for it aimed at benefiting all humanity."[8]
Globally, the Revolution accelerated the rise of republics and democracies. It became the focal point for the development of all modern political ideologies, leading to the spread of liberalism, radicalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism, and secularism, among many others. The Revolution also witnessed the birth of total war by organizing the resources of France and the lives of its citizens towards the objective of military conquest.[9] Some of its central documents, like the Declaration of the Rights of Man, expanded the arena of human rights to include women and slaves, leading to movements for abolitionism and universal suffrage in the next century.[10]



"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.
 
Going back to the absurdity of this thread, the author is blaming the universities for not offering enough courses dedicated solely to the French Revolution for having created a non-existent mass movement of totalitarians in this country.

That is almost too absurd to be good parody, let alone a serious position.
 
If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism.
 
Wiki- French Revolution. To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.

The French Revolution (French: Révolution française [ʁevɔlysjɔ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) was an influential period of social and political upheaval in France that lasted from 1789 until 1799, and was partially carried forward by Napoleon during the later expansion of the French Empire. The Revolution overthrew the monarchy, established a republic, experienced violent periods of political turmoil, and finally culminated in a dictatorship by Napoleon that rapidly brought many of its principles to Western Europe and beyond. Inspired by liberal and radical ideas, the Revolution profoundly altered the course of modern history, triggering the global decline of absolute monarchies while replacing them with republics. Through the Revolutionary Wars, it unleashed a wave of global conflicts that extended from the Caribbean to the Middle East. Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history.[1][2][3]
The causes of the French Revolution are complex and are still debated among historians. Following the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War, the French government was deeply in debt and attempted to restore its financial status through unpopular taxation schemes. Years of bad harvests leading up to the Revolution also inflamed popular resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the clergy and the aristocracy. Demands for change were formulated in terms of Enlightenment ideals and contributed to the convocation of the Estates-General in May 1789. The first year of the Revolution saw members of the Third Estate taking control, the assault on the Bastille in July, the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in August, and a women's march on Versailles that forced the royal court back to Paris in October. A central event of the first stage, in August 1789, was the abolition of feudalism and the old rules and privileges left over from the Ancien Régime. The next few years featured political struggles between various liberal assemblies and right-wing supporters of the monarchy intent on thwarting major reforms. The Republic was proclaimed in September 1792 after the French victory at Valmy. In a momentous event that led to international condemnation, Louis XVI was executed in January 1793.
External threats closely shaped the course of the Revolution. The Revolutionary Wars beginning in 1792 ultimately featured French victories that facilitated the conquest of the Italian Peninsula, the Low Countries and most territories west of the Rhine – achievements that had eluded previous French governments for centuries. Internally, popular agitation radicalized the Revolution significantly, culminating in the rise of Maximilien Robespierre and the Jacobins. The dictatorship imposed by the Committee of Public Safety during the Reign of Terror, from 1793 until 1794, established price controls on food and other items, abolished slavery in French colonies abroad, dechristianized society through the creation of a new calendar and the expulsion of religious figures, and secured the borders of the new republic from its enemies. Large numbers of civilians were executed by revolutionary tribunals during the Terror, with estimates ranging from 16,000 to 40,000.[4] After the Thermidorian Reaction, an executive council known as the Directory assumed control of the French state in 1795. The rule of the Directory was characterized by suspended elections, debt repudiations, financial instability, persecutions against the Catholic clergy, and significant military conquests abroad.[5] Dogged by charges of corruption, the Directory collapsed in a coup led by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1799. Napoleon, who became the hero of the Revolution through his popular military campaigns, went on to establish the Consulate and later the First Empire, setting the stage for a wider array of global conflicts in the Napoleonic Wars.
The modern era has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution. Almost all future revolutionary movements looked back to the Revolution as their predecessor.[6] Its central phrases and cultural symbols, such as La Marseillaise and Liberté, égalité, fraternité, became the clarion call for other major upheavals in modern history, including the Russian Revolution over a century later.[7] The values and institutions of the Revolution dominate French politics to this day. French historian François Aulard comments that:
the Revolution consisted in the suppression of what was called the feudal system, in the emancipation of the individual, in greater division of landed property, the abolition of the privileges of noble birth, the establishment of equality, the simplification of life.... The French Revolution differed from other revolutions in being not merely national, for it aimed at benefiting all humanity."[8]
Globally, the Revolution accelerated the rise of republics and democracies. It became the focal point for the development of all modern political ideologies, leading to the spread of liberalism, radicalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism, and secularism, among many others. The Revolution also witnessed the birth of total war by organizing the resources of France and the lives of its citizens towards the objective of military conquest.[9] Some of its central documents, like the Declaration of the Rights of Man, expanded the arena of human rights to include women and slaves, leading to movements for abolitionism and universal suffrage in the next century.[10]



"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.




"Goldberg is wrong. End of that story."

But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.
 
If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism.


The French Revolution's attempts at dechristianization proved such a failure, and mistake, that Napoleon reversed same, and entered into a concordat with the church in 1801.

Can't you ever get anything right?

Ever?
 
Yes, American liberals bear a striking resemblance to the Jacobins of the French Revolution: rejection of traditional morality, rejection of God, demonization of the rich, concentration of power in the hands of the central government, suppression of opposing views, sky-high taxation, etc., etc.

The only big difference is the use of violence, although we are just now starting to some liberals showing their true colors in this regard.
 
I do sooooo enjoy revealing the depth of ignornance in our Liberal colleagues.

Good, than the ones laughing at your posts are not the only ones having fun

Let's try this again, saying the French revolutionairies were savages is an opinion, it isn't a fact.

Just like when I call you a moron, that's also an opinion, it only becomes a fact when you agree to take an IQ test and an independent 3rd party verifies that you meet the qualifications for a moron.

:alcoholic:
 
I do sooooo enjoy revealing the depth of ignornance in our Liberal colleagues.

Good, than the ones laughing at your posts are not the only ones having fun

Let's try this again, saying the French revolutionairies were savages is an opinion, it isn't a fact.

Just like when I call you a moron, that's also an opinion, it only becomes a fact when you agree to take an IQ test and an independent 3rd party verifies that you meet the qualifications for a moron.

:alcoholic:


I proved you wrong twice now....so, like a good Liberal, your response is 'is not,,,,is nooottttt!!!'
 
Wiki- French Revolution. To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.

The French Revolution (French: Révolution française [ʁevɔlysjɔ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) was an influential period of social and political upheaval in France that lasted from 1789 until 1799, and was partially carried forward by Napoleon during the later expansion of the French Empire. The Revolution overthrew the monarchy, established a republic, experienced violent periods of political turmoil, and finally culminated in a dictatorship by Napoleon that rapidly brought many of its principles to Western Europe and beyond. Inspired by liberal and radical ideas, the Revolution profoundly altered the course of modern history, triggering the global decline of absolute monarchies while replacing them with republics. Through the Revolutionary Wars, it unleashed a wave of global conflicts that extended from the Caribbean to the Middle East. Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history.[1][2][3]
The causes of the French Revolution are complex and are still debated among historians. Following the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War, the French government was deeply in debt and attempted to restore its financial status through unpopular taxation schemes. Years of bad harvests leading up to the Revolution also inflamed popular resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the clergy and the aristocracy. Demands for change were formulated in terms of Enlightenment ideals and contributed to the convocation of the Estates-General in May 1789. The first year of the Revolution saw members of the Third Estate taking control, the assault on the Bastille in July, the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in August, and a women's march on Versailles that forced the royal court back to Paris in October. A central event of the first stage, in August 1789, was the abolition of feudalism and the old rules and privileges left over from the Ancien Régime. The next few years featured political struggles between various liberal assemblies and right-wing supporters of the monarchy intent on thwarting major reforms. The Republic was proclaimed in September 1792 after the French victory at Valmy. In a momentous event that led to international condemnation, Louis XVI was executed in January 1793.
External threats closely shaped the course of the Revolution. The Revolutionary Wars beginning in 1792 ultimately featured French victories that facilitated the conquest of the Italian Peninsula, the Low Countries and most territories west of the Rhine – achievements that had eluded previous French governments for centuries. Internally, popular agitation radicalized the Revolution significantly, culminating in the rise of Maximilien Robespierre and the Jacobins. The dictatorship imposed by the Committee of Public Safety during the Reign of Terror, from 1793 until 1794, established price controls on food and other items, abolished slavery in French colonies abroad, dechristianized society through the creation of a new calendar and the expulsion of religious figures, and secured the borders of the new republic from its enemies. Large numbers of civilians were executed by revolutionary tribunals during the Terror, with estimates ranging from 16,000 to 40,000.[4] After the Thermidorian Reaction, an executive council known as the Directory assumed control of the French state in 1795. The rule of the Directory was characterized by suspended elections, debt repudiations, financial instability, persecutions against the Catholic clergy, and significant military conquests abroad.[5] Dogged by charges of corruption, the Directory collapsed in a coup led by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1799. Napoleon, who became the hero of the Revolution through his popular military campaigns, went on to establish the Consulate and later the First Empire, setting the stage for a wider array of global conflicts in the Napoleonic Wars.
The modern era has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution. Almost all future revolutionary movements looked back to the Revolution as their predecessor.[6] Its central phrases and cultural symbols, such as La Marseillaise and Liberté, égalité, fraternité, became the clarion call for other major upheavals in modern history, including the Russian Revolution over a century later.[7] The values and institutions of the Revolution dominate French politics to this day. French historian François Aulard comments that:
the Revolution consisted in the suppression of what was called the feudal system, in the emancipation of the individual, in greater division of landed property, the abolition of the privileges of noble birth, the establishment of equality, the simplification of life.... The French Revolution differed from other revolutions in being not merely national, for it aimed at benefiting all humanity."[8]
Globally, the Revolution accelerated the rise of republics and democracies. It became the focal point for the development of all modern political ideologies, leading to the spread of liberalism, radicalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism, and secularism, among many others. The Revolution also witnessed the birth of total war by organizing the resources of France and the lives of its citizens towards the objective of military conquest.[9] Some of its central documents, like the Declaration of the Rights of Man, expanded the arena of human rights to include women and slaves, leading to movements for abolitionism and universal suffrage in the next century.[10]



"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.




"Goldberg is wrong. End of that story."

But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

Goldberg is wrong to call American liberals fascists. End of story.
 
If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism.


The French Revolution's attempts at dechristianization proved such a failure, and mistake, that Napoleon reversed same, and entered into a concordat with the church in 1801.

Can't you ever get anything right?

Ever?

Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said, you illiterate.

"At 2am on 16 July 1801 France signed with Rome a document known as the Concordat, the product of eight months of gruelling negotiations. Catholicism was henceforth to be recognised only as ‘the religion of the vast majority of French citizens’, a description that denied the Church any privileged place within the state, and the Church was to give up all claims to property lost during the Revolution. The Concordat’s most dramatic step, however, was to bring the Church under the authority of the state. In measures that recalled the Civil Constitution of 1790, all clergy were required to swear an oath of loyalty to the government, their salaries were to be paid by the state, and dioceses were again redrawn and aligned with administrative divisions. In addition, all bishops were to be appointed by Napoleon, further minimising Rome’s authority. This trend was confirmed in 1802 with the addition to the Concordat of the ‘Organic Articles’, 27 articles developed and announced without consultation with Rome. Article One, requiring that all instructions from Rome be approved by the government, suggested that in this new relationship, papal authority meant little. Napoleon’s Church, like the Gallican Church of the ancien régime, had its own national identity. "

The French Revolution and the Catholic Church | History Today

Exactly as I described it.
 
Wiki- French Revolution. To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.

The French Revolution (French: Révolution française [ʁevɔlysjɔ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) was an influential period of social and political upheaval in France that lasted from 1789 until 1799, and was partially carried forward by Napoleon during the later expansion of the French Empire. The Revolution overthrew the monarchy, established a republic, experienced violent periods of political turmoil, and finally culminated in a dictatorship by Napoleon that rapidly brought many of its principles to Western Europe and beyond. Inspired by liberal and radical ideas, the Revolution profoundly altered the course of modern history, triggering the global decline of absolute monarchies while replacing them with republics. Through the Revolutionary Wars, it unleashed a wave of global conflicts that extended from the Caribbean to the Middle East. Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history.[1][2][3]
The causes of the French Revolution are complex and are still debated among historians. Following the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War, the French government was deeply in debt and attempted to restore its financial status through unpopular taxation schemes. Years of bad harvests leading up to the Revolution also inflamed popular resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the clergy and the aristocracy. Demands for change were formulated in terms of Enlightenment ideals and contributed to the convocation of the Estates-General in May 1789. The first year of the Revolution saw members of the Third Estate taking control, the assault on the Bastille in July, the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in August, and a women's march on Versailles that forced the royal court back to Paris in October. A central event of the first stage, in August 1789, was the abolition of feudalism and the old rules and privileges left over from the Ancien Régime. The next few years featured political struggles between various liberal assemblies and right-wing supporters of the monarchy intent on thwarting major reforms. The Republic was proclaimed in September 1792 after the French victory at Valmy. In a momentous event that led to international condemnation, Louis XVI was executed in January 1793.
External threats closely shaped the course of the Revolution. The Revolutionary Wars beginning in 1792 ultimately featured French victories that facilitated the conquest of the Italian Peninsula, the Low Countries and most territories west of the Rhine – achievements that had eluded previous French governments for centuries. Internally, popular agitation radicalized the Revolution significantly, culminating in the rise of Maximilien Robespierre and the Jacobins. The dictatorship imposed by the Committee of Public Safety during the Reign of Terror, from 1793 until 1794, established price controls on food and other items, abolished slavery in French colonies abroad, dechristianized society through the creation of a new calendar and the expulsion of religious figures, and secured the borders of the new republic from its enemies. Large numbers of civilians were executed by revolutionary tribunals during the Terror, with estimates ranging from 16,000 to 40,000.[4] After the Thermidorian Reaction, an executive council known as the Directory assumed control of the French state in 1795. The rule of the Directory was characterized by suspended elections, debt repudiations, financial instability, persecutions against the Catholic clergy, and significant military conquests abroad.[5] Dogged by charges of corruption, the Directory collapsed in a coup led by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1799. Napoleon, who became the hero of the Revolution through his popular military campaigns, went on to establish the Consulate and later the First Empire, setting the stage for a wider array of global conflicts in the Napoleonic Wars.
The modern era has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution. Almost all future revolutionary movements looked back to the Revolution as their predecessor.[6] Its central phrases and cultural symbols, such as La Marseillaise and Liberté, égalité, fraternité, became the clarion call for other major upheavals in modern history, including the Russian Revolution over a century later.[7] The values and institutions of the Revolution dominate French politics to this day. French historian François Aulard comments that:
the Revolution consisted in the suppression of what was called the feudal system, in the emancipation of the individual, in greater division of landed property, the abolition of the privileges of noble birth, the establishment of equality, the simplification of life.... The French Revolution differed from other revolutions in being not merely national, for it aimed at benefiting all humanity."[8]
Globally, the Revolution accelerated the rise of republics and democracies. It became the focal point for the development of all modern political ideologies, leading to the spread of liberalism, radicalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism, and secularism, among many others. The Revolution also witnessed the birth of total war by organizing the resources of France and the lives of its citizens towards the objective of military conquest.[9] Some of its central documents, like the Declaration of the Rights of Man, expanded the arena of human rights to include women and slaves, leading to movements for abolitionism and universal suffrage in the next century.[10]



"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.




"Goldberg is wrong. End of that story."

But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

Goldberg is wrong to call American liberals fascists. End of story.



But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.
 
If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism.


The French Revolution's attempts at dechristianization proved such a failure, and mistake, that Napoleon reversed same, and entered into a concordat with the church in 1801.

Can't you ever get anything right?

Ever?

Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said, you illiterate.

"At 2am on 16 July 1801 France signed with Rome a document known as the Concordat, the product of eight months of gruelling negotiations. Catholicism was henceforth to be recognised only as ‘the religion of the vast majority of French citizens’, a description that denied the Church any privileged place within the state, and the Church was to give up all claims to property lost during the Revolution. The Concordat’s most dramatic step, however, was to bring the Church under the authority of the state. In measures that recalled the Civil Constitution of 1790, all clergy were required to swear an oath of loyalty to the government, their salaries were to be paid by the state, and dioceses were again redrawn and aligned with administrative divisions. In addition, all bishops were to be appointed by Napoleon, further minimising Rome’s authority. This trend was confirmed in 1802 with the addition to the Concordat of the ‘Organic Articles’, 27 articles developed and announced without consultation with Rome. Article One, requiring that all instructions from Rome be approved by the government, suggested that in this new relationship, papal authority meant little. Napoleon’s Church, like the Gallican Church of the ancien régime, had its own national identity. "

The French Revolution and the Catholic Church | History Today

Exactly as I described it.


No....this is how you described it:
"If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism."



Gads....you Liberal dolts make this toooooo easy.

You posted "Catholicism was henceforth to be recognised only as ‘the religion of the vast majority of French citizens’."


Have someone read your posts and explain them to you before you hit 'post reply.'

Any third grader will do.
 
I proved you wrong twice now....so, like a good Liberal, your response is 'is not,,,,is nooottttt!!!'

Forget about the independent verification, you are a moron.

That's a fact

:banana:


If I am a moron...yet know and understand so very much more than you do......

Hmmm....

Leads to an interesting....and amusing.....conclusion.
 
Wiki- French Revolution. To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.

The French Revolution (French: Révolution française [ʁevɔlysjɔ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛːz]) was an influential period of social and political upheaval in France that lasted from 1789 until 1799, and was partially carried forward by Napoleon during the later expansion of the French Empire. The Revolution overthrew the monarchy, established a republic, experienced violent periods of political turmoil, and finally culminated in a dictatorship by Napoleon that rapidly brought many of its principles to Western Europe and beyond. Inspired by liberal and radical ideas, the Revolution profoundly altered the course of modern history, triggering the global decline of absolute monarchies while replacing them with republics. Through the Revolutionary Wars, it unleashed a wave of global conflicts that extended from the Caribbean to the Middle East. Historians widely regard the Revolution as one of the most important events in human history.[1][2][3]
The causes of the French Revolution are complex and are still debated among historians. Following the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War, the French government was deeply in debt and attempted to restore its financial status through unpopular taxation schemes. Years of bad harvests leading up to the Revolution also inflamed popular resentment of the privileges enjoyed by the clergy and the aristocracy. Demands for change were formulated in terms of Enlightenment ideals and contributed to the convocation of the Estates-General in May 1789. The first year of the Revolution saw members of the Third Estate taking control, the assault on the Bastille in July, the passage of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in August, and a women's march on Versailles that forced the royal court back to Paris in October. A central event of the first stage, in August 1789, was the abolition of feudalism and the old rules and privileges left over from the Ancien Régime. The next few years featured political struggles between various liberal assemblies and right-wing supporters of the monarchy intent on thwarting major reforms. The Republic was proclaimed in September 1792 after the French victory at Valmy. In a momentous event that led to international condemnation, Louis XVI was executed in January 1793.
External threats closely shaped the course of the Revolution. The Revolutionary Wars beginning in 1792 ultimately featured French victories that facilitated the conquest of the Italian Peninsula, the Low Countries and most territories west of the Rhine – achievements that had eluded previous French governments for centuries. Internally, popular agitation radicalized the Revolution significantly, culminating in the rise of Maximilien Robespierre and the Jacobins. The dictatorship imposed by the Committee of Public Safety during the Reign of Terror, from 1793 until 1794, established price controls on food and other items, abolished slavery in French colonies abroad, dechristianized society through the creation of a new calendar and the expulsion of religious figures, and secured the borders of the new republic from its enemies. Large numbers of civilians were executed by revolutionary tribunals during the Terror, with estimates ranging from 16,000 to 40,000.[4] After the Thermidorian Reaction, an executive council known as the Directory assumed control of the French state in 1795. The rule of the Directory was characterized by suspended elections, debt repudiations, financial instability, persecutions against the Catholic clergy, and significant military conquests abroad.[5] Dogged by charges of corruption, the Directory collapsed in a coup led by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1799. Napoleon, who became the hero of the Revolution through his popular military campaigns, went on to establish the Consulate and later the First Empire, setting the stage for a wider array of global conflicts in the Napoleonic Wars.
The modern era has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution. Almost all future revolutionary movements looked back to the Revolution as their predecessor.[6] Its central phrases and cultural symbols, such as La Marseillaise and Liberté, égalité, fraternité, became the clarion call for other major upheavals in modern history, including the Russian Revolution over a century later.[7] The values and institutions of the Revolution dominate French politics to this day. French historian François Aulard comments that:
the Revolution consisted in the suppression of what was called the feudal system, in the emancipation of the individual, in greater division of landed property, the abolition of the privileges of noble birth, the establishment of equality, the simplification of life.... The French Revolution differed from other revolutions in being not merely national, for it aimed at benefiting all humanity."[8]
Globally, the Revolution accelerated the rise of republics and democracies. It became the focal point for the development of all modern political ideologies, leading to the spread of liberalism, radicalism, nationalism, socialism, feminism, and secularism, among many others. The Revolution also witnessed the birth of total war by organizing the resources of France and the lives of its citizens towards the objective of military conquest.[9] Some of its central documents, like the Declaration of the Rights of Man, expanded the arena of human rights to include women and slaves, leading to movements for abolitionism and universal suffrage in the next century.[10]



"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.




"Goldberg is wrong. End of that story."

But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

Goldberg is wrong to call American liberals fascists. End of story.



But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

I'm still waiting for you to name the Liberals in America who support totalitarianism.

Then you can name the Liberals in America who are fascists, if you care to prove that Goldberg isn't wrong in his nonsensical claim.
 
If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism.


The French Revolution's attempts at dechristianization proved such a failure, and mistake, that Napoleon reversed same, and entered into a concordat with the church in 1801.

Can't you ever get anything right?

Ever?

Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said, you illiterate.

"At 2am on 16 July 1801 France signed with Rome a document known as the Concordat, the product of eight months of gruelling negotiations. Catholicism was henceforth to be recognised only as ‘the religion of the vast majority of French citizens’, a description that denied the Church any privileged place within the state, and the Church was to give up all claims to property lost during the Revolution. The Concordat’s most dramatic step, however, was to bring the Church under the authority of the state. In measures that recalled the Civil Constitution of 1790, all clergy were required to swear an oath of loyalty to the government, their salaries were to be paid by the state, and dioceses were again redrawn and aligned with administrative divisions. In addition, all bishops were to be appointed by Napoleon, further minimising Rome’s authority. This trend was confirmed in 1802 with the addition to the Concordat of the ‘Organic Articles’, 27 articles developed and announced without consultation with Rome. Article One, requiring that all instructions from Rome be approved by the government, suggested that in this new relationship, papal authority meant little. Napoleon’s Church, like the Gallican Church of the ancien régime, had its own national identity. "

The French Revolution and the Catholic Church | History Today

Exactly as I described it.


No....this is how you described it:
"If you want to really know what the French Revolution did regarding the Catholic Church -

it put the Catholic Church in its place, not just in France but throughout Europe. The French revolution ended Papist totalitarianism."



Gads....you Liberal dolts make this toooooo easy.

You posted "Catholicism was henceforth to be recognised only as ‘the religion of the vast majority of French citizens’."


Have someone read your posts and explain them to you before you hit 'post reply.'

Any third grader will do.

Nothing you just posted refuted anything I said.

Answering only yes or no,

was the power of the Catholic Church in Europe by the end of the 19th century more or less than it was at the end of the 18th century?

Answering only yes or no,

is the power of the Catholic Church in Europe NOW more or less than it was before the French Revolution?
 
If I am a moron...yet know and understand so very much more than you do......

Hmmm....

Leads to an interesting....and amusing.....conclusion.

You don't know or understand anything, reading Ann Coulter doesn't exactly promote critical thinking and parrotting her propaganda is just pathetic.

But please carry on, it can be very amusing

:alcoholic:
 
"To say it was savages, precursors of Nazis, is ignorant RW malarky, "Liberal Fascism" territory, hater dupe.."

Well, as I have proven....they were savages, behaved exactly so....and gave impetus and gave the template to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, and the Liberals/Progressives.


Just curious....are you the sort of windbag that has populated the thread, and pops up whenever Coulter's name is mentioned...

....or have you actually read Goldberg's classic best seller, "Liberal Fascism"?


The answer will go far in identifying your background....

Goldberg is wrong. End of that story.

There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support totalitarianism. There are no Liberals of consequence in America who support abandoning our system of constitutional democratic government.

These mythical creatures you rant about are all in your head.




"Goldberg is wrong. End of that story."

But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

Goldberg is wrong to call American liberals fascists. End of story.



But you don't read, do you.

And you haven't read the well documented tome you claimed 'wrong.'

So....actually, your credibility is 'the end of the story,' huh?


"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter....nailed you again.

I'm still waiting for you to name the Liberals in America who support totalitarianism.

Then you can name the Liberals in America who are fascists, if you care to prove that Goldberg isn't wrong in his nonsensical claim.



Did you read the book you claim to be 'wrong'?

Or, as is a main technique of Liberals....do you just make stuff up?
 
If I am a moron...yet know and understand so very much more than you do......

Hmmm....

Leads to an interesting....and amusing.....conclusion.

You don't know or understand anything, reading Ann Coulter doesn't exactly promote critical thinking and parrotting her propaganda is just pathetic.

But please carry on, it can be very amusing

:alcoholic:


But I put you in your place twice....

Hmmmm.....

OK...how about thrice?

"Gustave Le Bon, an influential theorist of "crowd" behavior, warned that the French Revolution epitomized the irrationality, savagery, and violence of the mob. " Thousands of people died during the revolution countless innocence lives wasted. There was no need for all of this death."
COUNTER CLAIM - whitbey project 1



Ooooo....Look!

There's the very same word that I used, "savagery,"....

...the one you denied applied.

Seems I'm right again.



Gads.....this is tooooooo easy!
 
If I am a moron...yet know and understand so very much more than you do......

Hmmm....

Leads to an interesting....and amusing.....conclusion.

You don't know or understand anything, reading Ann Coulter doesn't exactly promote critical thinking and parrotting her propaganda is just pathetic.

But please carry on, it can be very amusing

:alcoholic:


But I put you in your place twice....

Hmmmm.....

OK...how about thrice?

"Gustave Le Bon, an influential theorist of "crowd" behavior, warned that the French Revolution epitomized the irrationality, savagery, and violence of the mob. " Thousands of people died during the revolution countless innocence lives wasted. There was no need for all of this death."
COUNTER CLAIM - whitbey project 1



Ooooo....Look!

There's the very same word that I used, "savagery,"....

...the one you denied applied.

Seems I'm right again.



Gads.....this is tooooooo easy!

So what? What does that have to do with American liberals? You've made no connection.
 

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