Let's Give Terrorists a Podium

[Meister]

YEA! just fucking kill em already! Allowing them to speak at people who are not already ready to string them up is UN'MERICAN!

when you murder people like that, you don't get the right to have a politcal platform at your trial

you are pathetic and obviously hate america

well, that certainly is your opinion. but, hey... i'm going to go ahead and side with the Americans who don't use the legal system as a hangman's noose, thanks.


sorry to burst your bubble but it's exactly my love of America which makes me concerned when fucking tards like you start draping a flag over your opinions regardless of the outcome. Eat a dick, son.

With Holder (attorney general) saying they will never walk, how can you assume that it's nothing more than a circus? With that statement, it sure doesn't sound like a fair trial.

 

[rightwinger]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

They must be silenced at all costs!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

I am heartened to see you for one realize what the purpose of these trails actually is.

It's not about justice.

It's not about American values.

It's not about the Constitution.

It's about how baaaaad Boooooosh and America was/is.

 

[Shogun]

when you murder people like that, you don't get the right to have a politcal platform at your trial

you are pathetic and obviously hate america

well, that certainly is your opinion. but, hey... i'm going to go ahead and side with the Americans who don't use the legal system as a hangman's noose, thanks.

murder trials are not political platforms you ignorant terrorist lover....

you care more about the terrorists first amendment rights than fox news's rights

"fox new's rights"?





i know i know...

Walter Sobchak: Also, let's not forget - let's *not* forget, Dude - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.

 

[Vel]

yea! it sure is easy to defend oneself WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO GIVE FUCKING TESTIMONY IN A FORUM THAT ISN'T ALREADY DIGGING THEIR GRAVES.




say, maybe your kind can restrict their access to addressing their accusers some more too. and then claim that they could defend themselves, no less. No one believes that these people will get anything less than the death your kind already demand. While you are busy acting like Saddam go ahead and cry about barbaric regimes some more.

Your own AG has already said that they won't walk free and yet you're pushing this trial as a good thing. If it were the fair and just "trial" that you espouse, then why is Holder already calling them convicted? Face it, this is a political show and nothing more and will ultimately cause more harm than good. Will you be happy when some jihadist, inspired by the KSM media show kills a few more troops?

Indeed, the outcome has already been determined. and yes, letting them speak even though they won't sway anyone is exactly why out culture is superior to theirs. As long as you keep acting like they do then there is no real distinction between us and them. But hey, let me waterboard your agreement out of you and you'll understand.


and, i hate to break it to you, dummy, but a terrorist is going to react regardless of what we do to KSM. Troops won't all of a sudden start dying because we allowed labeled terrorists to speak on their own behalf. The idea of such is three shades of retarded. Again, sounds like you just don't want the general public to hear something which might cause more questions than a bullet to the back of the head would have allowed.

What a load of crap. If, as you say, the outcome of the trial is predetermined, then this farce is exactly what I said, a political show designed to do nothing more that bring back the dreaded Bush boogie man in order to try to save a few Democrat congressional seats in 2010. The fact that you know it's predetermined and still push for the show either makes you a tool or a fool. Your choice.
And please, will you really debase yourself by pretending that you don't know that KSM's desire is to increase Muslim outrage and recruit a few more terrorists for jihad? Nick Berg paid for the release of the Abu Graib photos and someone will pay for this. There will be nothing come out at this trial that the general public hasn't already heard. This farce will just stir the pot to try to ratchet up a little more outrage at those mean Republicans and take the focus off of double digit unemployment.

 

[Yurt]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

I am heartened to see you for one realize what the purpose of these trails actually is.

It's not about justice.

It's not about American values.

It's not about the Constitution.

It's about how baaaaad Boooooosh and America was/is.

yep...these libs in support of the trials for this reason do not want justice for the murderers.....they really want to try bush/cheney....

that is disgusting and unamerican to use the murders like this.....

 

[Yurt]

The nineteenth hijacker had his day in court and ended up looking like a retarded asshole. And he still got convicted.

The right wing is either peeing their pants in fear or playing politics as usual. Probably both.

why don't you tell us the difference between his case and these guys ravi....

where was he caught ravi? and by whom?

 

[Shogun]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

I am heartened to see you for one realize what the purpose of these trails actually is.

It's not about justice.

It's not about American values.

It's not about the Constitution.

It's about how baaaaad Boooooosh and America was/is.

yep...these libs in support of the trials for this reason do not want justice for the murderers.....they really want to try bush/cheney....

that is disgusting and unamerican to use the murders like this.....

America should know what has been done in its name. That you act like a giant bitch about transparency says quite a bit about your own brand of political identity. Thankfully, you don't own a monopoly on what it means to be American and love this nation.

 

[WillowTree]

Oh yeah... as the WORLD looks on... you moron liberals are going to GIVE the terrorists RIGHTS, which INCLUDES "freedom of speech," and then TAKE THEM AWAY?

You're fucking cracked. These terrorists are going to turn this shit into the biggest circus this country has ever seen, and it's going to take YEARS and MILLIONS of dollars.

Fucking right wingnut pussies

Afraid of what a terrorist might say

When are you guys going to grow a set of balls???

so then you have no problem with these "trials" being used a propaganda platforms by terrorists.....no one is afraid of what they are going to say, its already been said by others.....but for you to condone the use of courts as a platform for terrorists to lambast america is one of the most stupid and unamerican positions anyone can take....

the courts are for justice, but to liberals like you, they are great platforms for terrorists to denounce america.....

pathetic

and We The People get to pay for it!

 

[Shogun]

Your own AG has already said that they won't walk free and yet you're pushing this trial as a good thing. If it were the fair and just "trial" that you espouse, then why is Holder already calling them convicted? Face it, this is a political show and nothing more and will ultimately cause more harm than good. Will you be happy when some jihadist, inspired by the KSM media show kills a few more troops?

Indeed, the outcome has already been determined. and yes, letting them speak even though they won't sway anyone is exactly why out culture is superior to theirs. As long as you keep acting like they do then there is no real distinction between us and them. But hey, let me waterboard your agreement out of you and you'll understand.


and, i hate to break it to you, dummy, but a terrorist is going to react regardless of what we do to KSM. Troops won't all of a sudden start dying because we allowed labeled terrorists to speak on their own behalf. The idea of such is three shades of retarded. Again, sounds like you just don't want the general public to hear something which might cause more questions than a bullet to the back of the head would have allowed.

What a load of crap. If, as you say, the outcome of the trial is predetermined, then this farce is exactly what I said, a political show designed to do nothing more that bring back the dreaded Bush boogie man in order to try to save a few Democrat congressional seats in 2010. The fact that you know it's predetermined and still push for the show either makes you a tool or a fool. Your choice.
And please, will you really debase yourself by pretending that you don't know that KSM's desire is to increase Muslim outrage and recruit a few more terrorists for jihad? Nick Berg paid for the release of the Abu Graib photos and someone will pay for this. There will be nothing come out at this trial that the general public hasn't already heard. This farce will just stir the pot to try to ratchet up a little more outrage at those mean Republicans and take the focus off of double digit unemployment.

If anything THIS will allow us to retain even the slightest bit of validity and integrity regarding our legal system even if we've already accepted a predetermined result of the trial. If you would rather sweep everything under a nice rug then feel free to vote Ollie North for President in '12. Hopefully, the irony is not lost on those paying attention.

Again, the SHOW, as you put it, illustrates the superiority of our system versus theirs; one that is ironically mimicked in your solution to red stamp convictions. Pretending that terrorism all of a sudden becomes lethal because muslims are allowed to defend themselves outside of a closed room kangaroo court is just asinine. You can't predict what will or won't be said at this trial. But, your fervor in trying to mute the accuses speaks volumes about what length you'll go to keep mum anything that is not politically prudent.

Hell, that you seem to think this is some giant conspiracy meant to redirect attention from unemployment, as if the unemployed will forget that they are out of work, is three shades of fucking retarded and conveys just how desperate your kind is to polish the turd of your last pair of presidential votes.

too bad for you that half of us in the US still care about legal standards outside of back room bullets and red tape trials.

 

[WillowTree]

Fucking right wingnut pussies

Afraid of what a terrorist might say

When are you guys going to grow a set of balls???

so then you have no problem with these "trials" being used a propaganda platforms by terrorists.....no one is afraid of what they are going to say, its already been said by others.....but for you to condone the use of courts as a platform for terrorists to lambast america is one of the most stupid and unamerican positions anyone can take....

the courts are for justice, but to liberals like you, they are great platforms for terrorists to denounce america.....

pathetic

You are still going to get your kangaroo court convictions anyway. Who the fuck do you think their speeches will sway? would you rather someone just take em out back after a secret court hearing and shoot them in the back of the head which is, ironically, the same reason you silly bastards cry about Castro? If anything, letting them speak conveys the stark difference between OUR culture and THEIR culture when it comes to allowing personal expression and defending against accusations. But, hey, if you want to act like they do and silence the opposition right before sending them to death then so be it. You people were never really quick on the uptake anyway.

you are so stupid,, all the assholes in the ME will be at you asswipe liberals and saying "we took their constitution and beat them at their own game." Wassamatter? too stupid to see that?

 

[WillowTree]

Totally agree Pale Rider.

This is the absolute worst decision ever made by an AG and his boss. This would have been a slam dunk in a Military Tribunal. The dirtbags already said they would plead guilty. But Oh No. The asshole AG has to prove to the world how great our legal system is. What a fucking moron this guy is. He is taking a chance that these dirtbags will be aquitted, then what????? Do these dirtbags walk out of the courtroom so that all those who want this 3 ring circus trial can feel good. Can feel like justice was served ant these assholes got a fair trial??

Big incentive for shooting em on site.

You assholes had your chance and you fucked it up. If Bush and Cheney hadn't acted like Americans had stooped to the intelligence and honor levels of these dirtbags, we wouldn't even be in this situation. I mean how fucking long does it take to try these supsected terrorists. IF, as you say, these cases were slamdunks, why were they still being detained without convictions when Obama took over? IF they were truly slamdunks, shouldn't they be tried, convicted and dead by now?

They would have if asshole leftist lawyers hadn't thrown up objections and roadblocks.. just how many times does that need to be pointed out to you?

 

[Shogun]

so then you have no problem with these "trials" being used a propaganda platforms by terrorists.....no one is afraid of what they are going to say, its already been said by others.....but for you to condone the use of courts as a platform for terrorists to lambast america is one of the most stupid and unamerican positions anyone can take....

the courts are for justice, but to liberals like you, they are great platforms for terrorists to denounce america.....

pathetic

You are still going to get your kangaroo court convictions anyway. Who the fuck do you think their speeches will sway? would you rather someone just take em out back after a secret court hearing and shoot them in the back of the head which is, ironically, the same reason you silly bastards cry about Castro? If anything, letting them speak conveys the stark difference between OUR culture and THEIR culture when it comes to allowing personal expression and defending against accusations. But, hey, if you want to act like they do and silence the opposition right before sending them to death then so be it. You people were never really quick on the uptake anyway.

you are so stupid,, all the assholes in the ME will be at you asswipe liberals and saying "we took their constitution and beat them at their own game." Wassamatter? too stupid to see that?

the last time your paranoid assumptions had traction we were drawn into Iraq looking for phantom WMDs. how well did THAT turn out?

yea, I thought so.

 

[WillowTree]

so then you have no problem with these "trials" being used a propaganda platforms by terrorists.....no one is afraid of what they are going to say, its already been said by others.....but for you to condone the use of courts as a platform for terrorists to lambast america is one of the most stupid and unamerican positions anyone can take....

the courts are for justice, but to liberals like you, they are great platforms for terrorists to denounce america.....

pathetic

Fucking rightwing pussies..

Not only do you deny them lawyers, the right to face their accusers, the right to see the evedence against them...

Now you want to deny them the right to even speak

seriously. If this were not on the internet these people would have already lynched these sand ******* by now.

You are an idiot.

 

[Shogun]

Fucking rightwing pussies..

Not only do you deny them lawyers, the right to face their accusers, the right to see the evedence against them...

Now you want to deny them the right to even speak

seriously. If this were not on the internet these people would have already lynched these sand ******* by now.

You are an idiot.

no, you are a fucking idiot. See how silly your post is?

 

[blu]

only the GOP / religious fundies are scared of what other people might say. everything they might say in court has been said already. id on't understand why fundies are so scared of people being exposed to differing beliefs.

 

[blu]

Totally agree Pale Rider.

This is the absolute worst decision ever made by an AG and his boss. This would have been a slam dunk in a Military Tribunal. The dirtbags already said they would plead guilty. But Oh No. The asshole AG has to prove to the world how great our legal system is. What a fucking moron this guy is. He is taking a chance that these dirtbags will be aquitted, then what????? Do these dirtbags walk out of the courtroom so that all those who want this 3 ring circus trial can feel good. Can feel like justice was served ant these assholes got a fair trial??

Big incentive for shooting em on site.

You assholes had your chance and you fucked it up. If Bush and Cheney hadn't acted like Americans had stooped to the intelligence and honor levels of these dirtbags, we wouldn't even be in this situation. I mean how fucking long does it take to try these supsected terrorists. IF, as you say, these cases were slamdunks, why were they still being detained without convictions when Obama took over? IF they were truly slamdunks, shouldn't they be tried, convicted and dead by now?

They would have if asshole leftist lawyers hadn't thrown up objections and roadblocks.. just how many times does that need to be pointed out to you?

always blaming your problems on "leftists" its pretty sad that the GOP can't do anything without being hindered by those "leftists". and if the lawyers were able to stop it for six years maybe there was some merit behind what they were saying

 

[Claudette]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

They must be silenced at all costs!

Let me get this straight RW. Your more concerned with putting Bush/Cheney on trial than you are about executing the masteminds of 9-11. Gotta wonder where your head is man.

 

[WillowTree]

You know what might happen if we allow these defendants to speak in open court?

They might provide details about how they were treated in captivity by Bush/Cheney

I am heartened to see you for one realize what the purpose of these trails actually is.

It's not about justice.

It's not about American values.

It's not about the Constitution.

It's about how baaaaad Boooooosh and America was/is.

yep...these libs in support of the trials for this reason do not want justice for the murderers.....they really want to try bush/cheney....

that is disgusting and unamerican to use the murders like this.....

That's it in a nutshell, the demons are trying to make political hay with 3000 dead Americans. Comtemptable assholes, worse than any terrorist I"ve ever seen.

 

[WillowTree]

You assholes had your chance and you fucked it up. If Bush and Cheney hadn't acted like Americans had stooped to the intelligence and honor levels of these dirtbags, we wouldn't even be in this situation. I mean how fucking long does it take to try these supsected terrorists. IF, as you say, these cases were slamdunks, why were they still being detained without convictions when Obama took over? IF they were truly slamdunks, shouldn't they be tried, convicted and dead by now?

They would have if asshole leftist lawyers hadn't thrown up objections and roadblocks.. just how many times does that need to be pointed out to you?

always blaming your problems on "leftists" its pretty sad that the GOP can't do anything without being hindered by those "leftists". and if the lawyers were able to stop it for six years maybe there was some merit behind what they were saying

we'll see now won't we DUmmie?