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[P F Tinmore]

After stealing it from the palestinians and bulldozing their homes and cutting down their orchards so they couldn't return to their own homes.

Arabs sold their land to immigrating Jews. Arab land sales to Jews is well-documented.

Yes, it is well documented that the Jews only owned about 7% of Palestine by 1947.

Perhaps, you should be better informed when you post.

Yes, indeed you should.

Arabs hold few titles to land as Palestine was under Turkish sovereignty until collapse of the Ottoman Empire., whose sovereignty was transferred to the Jews via the Treaty of Sevres, the San Remo Resolution and the Palestine Mandate.

Sovereignty and land ownership are not synonymous. And, just what legal justification did the League of Nations have in giving sovereignty to foreigners and not the normal inhabitants?

Arab tenant farmers are not landowners. A simple concept even a moron like you should be able to understand.

Most often when a country is taken over, the land somehow becomes the property of the rich and powerful. We have seen this "legal" maneuver in India, Africa, Latin America, and other places. Normally the original owners work the land but the profits go elsewhere. The British were restoring this land to its original owners.

The tenant farmer thing is merely a smokescreen.

Now, you know, dummy.
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[Marc39]

After stealing it from the palestinians and bulldozing their homes and cutting down their orchards so they couldn't return to their own homes.

Yes, it is well documented that the Jews only owned about 7% of Palestine by 1947.



Yes, indeed you should.



Sovereignty and land ownership are not synonymous. And, just what legal justification did the League of Nations have in giving sovereignty to foreigners and not the normal inhabitants?

Arab tenant farmers are not landowners. A simple concept even a moron like you should be able to understand.

Most often when a country is taken over, the land somehow becomes the property of the rich and powerful. We have seen this "legal" maneuver in India, Africa, Latin America, and other places. Normally the original owners work the land but the profits go elsewhere. The British were restoring this land to its original owners.

The tenant farmer thing is merely a smokescreen.

Now, you know, dummy.
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Arabs with no title to land, most Arabs, and without sovereignty, all Pallies, have no property rights.

Jews have both.

Now, you know, dummy.

 

[Marc39]

Sovereignty and land ownership are not synonymous. And, just what legal justification did the League of Nations have in giving sovereignty to foreigners and not the normal inhabitants?

You are confused, dummy, as always.

The Ottoman Turks transferred sovereignty over Palestine and all of the Ottoman Empire, to the WW I Allies in signing the Treaty of Sevres.

In turn, the Allies transferred sovereignty over Palestine to the Jews via the San Remo Resolution.

The same right that gave Jews a homeland in Palestine gave Arabs homelands in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon with separate League of Nations mandates, as well as assigning 99.9% of the 8 million square miles of the Ottoman Empire to the Arabs.

I own rental apartments, however, that does not mean my tenants own the buildings because they out-number me. Similarly, Pallies do not have title to Palestine merely because they out-number Jews. Surely, even a mentally ill person like yourself can grasp such a simple concept.

Now, you're a little less confused, dummy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sovereignty and land ownership are not synonymous. And, just what legal justification did the League of Nations have in giving sovereignty to foreigners and not the normal inhabitants?

You are confused, dummy, as always.

The Ottoman Turks transferred sovereignty over Palestine and all of the Ottoman Empire, to the WW I Allies in signing the Treaty of Sevres.

In turn, the Allies transferred sovereignty over Palestine to the Jews via the San Remo Resolution.

The same right that gave Jews a homeland in Palestine gave Arabs homelands in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon with separate League of Nations mandates, as well as assigning 99.9% of the 8 million square miles of the Ottoman Empire to the Arabs.

I own rental apartments, however, that does not mean my tenants own the buildings because they out-number me. Similarly, Pallies do not have title to Palestine merely because they out-number Jews. Surely, even a mentally ill person like yourself can grasp such a simple concept.

Now, you're a little less confused, dummy.

Holy smokescreen, Batman!

 

[al Haq]

Asshole, there are no Palestinians. Fucking Palestinian excrement are nothing more than garden variety camel herders, like the rest of the shitbag Arabs.

Before 1967, fucking Palestinians called themselves Jordanians and Egyptians.

LOL

You are a garden-variety bigot. Palestinians were known as Palestinians long before 1967, and you've already been given repeated examples of that.

And even if your claim was true, it's pointless. As in:

What did Israelis call themselves before 1948?

Does that mean they don't exist today?

Do they belong in their countries of origin instead of in Palestine?

Fuck you, loser. You sand ******* have 8 million square miles of land and you've done NOTHING with it. Fuckers live in squalor and illiteracy.

Israel turned desert into orange groves and industries. You're just jealous, you fucking lowlives..

You're just jealous the Zionists couldn't get Dubai and Kuwait (or the large chunks of Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon that were included in their original proposal to the British.) Tel Aviv sure ain't the Emerald City...

Palestinian orange groves predate the Zio invasion. The Jaffa orange was developed by Palestinian farmers in the 19th century, and has been exported to Europe since the 1850s (some 20 years before the "First Aliyah.")

By 1870 (11 years before the "First Aliyah,") 38 million Jaffa oranges were being exported to Europe every year.

Check your beloved Mark Twain:

"We came finally to the noble grove of orange trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lied buried." (“Innocents Abroad,” page 360, published 1869.)

Or:

“Surrounding Jaffa are the orange gardens for which it is justly extolled, and which are a considerable source of wealth to the owners. The annual value of fruits grown in Jaffa is said to be 10,000 pounds.” (Mark LeVine in “Overthrowing geography: Jaffa, Tel Aviv and the struggle for Palestine, 1880-1948“, quoting an 1872 European traveler’s account.)

So much for your Zio fairy tales...

Nothing really to add to this, I think it speaks for itself and it may be instructive to post twice just so everyone could re-read it and think about it for a moment.

His scat-studded rants are nothing more than standard Hilltop Youth cretinism, which would deny Palestinians their very existence (as well as their rights to their own property and their own self-determination, of course) in order to justify the Zionist delusion that it’s therefore okay to steal from them.

It's the ideology of the criminally insane.

 

[Marc39]

You are a garden-variety bigot. Palestinians were known as Palestinians long before 1967, and you've already been given repeated examples of that.

Wrong, Abdullah. Arabs first began calling themselves Palestinians in 1967.

Prior to Israeli statehood, Jews, not Arabs, were known as Palestinians, as reflected in their institutions...

Palestine Post: Today, Jerusalem Post
Anglo-Palestine Company: Today, Bank Leumi
Palestine Orchestra: Today, Israeli Philharmnic.

Does that mean they don't exist today?

Pallies are just ignorant Arabs. There is not one legitimate book of history written by a respected historian on the Fakestinians.

Do they belong in their countries of origin instead of in Palestine?

Country of origin is Arabia.

Palestinian orange groves predate the Zio invasion. The Jaffa orange was developed by Palestinian farmers in the 19th century, and has been exported to Europe since the 1850s (some 20 years before the "First Aliyah.")

Arabs were so lazy and unsuccessful, Churchill denigrated them by suggesting they would still remain backward for another 1,000 years were it not for Jewish immigrants bringing with them advanced agricultural techniques and ideas for building industries.

The Palestine Royal Commission Report...

The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews] and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.

The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought [by Jews].

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Arabs have always been lazy, backward camel drivers and always will be.
They are excrement.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Nothing really to add to this, I think it speaks for itself and it may be instructive to post twice just so everyone could re-read it and think about it for a moment.

His scat-studded rants are nothing more than standard Hilltop Youth cretinism, which would deny Palestinians their very existence (as well as their rights to their own property and their own self-determination, of course) in order to justify the Zionist delusion that it’s therefore okay to steal from them.

It's the ideology of the criminally insane.

Yeah, I meant that the blatant racism in the post spoke for itself. Not much use arguing with it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wrong, Abdullah. Arabs first began calling themselves Palestinians in 1967.

The PLO was formed in 1964. What did "PLO" stand for and what were its goals?

 

[P F Tinmore]

All that your numbers show is that the arab population went up, you are not showing the cause. Tell me how many arab children were born over that same period, in Palestine?

Arabs increased by more than 350,000, from 300,000 to 666,000, in just 40 years due to a high birthrate? Even a dunce like you can't possibly believe that. LOL

The rule of seven states that the population would double in ten years with a 7% yearly increase. A few percent per year of natural increase over 40 years would double the population.

This does not sound out of line.

 

[Marc39]

Arabs increased by more than 350,000, from 300,000 to 666,000, in just 40 years due to a high birthrate? Even a dunce like you can't possibly believe that. LOL

The rule of seven states that the population would double in ten years with a 7% yearly increase. A few percent per year of natural increase over 40 years would double the population.

This does not sound out of line.

Translation: You don't know what the fuck youre talking about, as usual.

 

[jillian]

Translation: You don't know what the fuck youre talking about, as usual.

i know this doesn't surprise you.

 

[elvis]

All that your numbers show is that the arab population went up, you are not showing the cause. Tell me how many arab children were born over that same period, in Palestine?

Arabs increased by more than 350,000, from 300,000 to 666,000, in just 40 years due to a high birthrate? Even a dunce like you can't possibly believe that. LOL

[/quote]The rule of seven states that the population would double in ten years with a 7% yearly increase. A few percent per year of natural increase over 40 years would double the population.

This does not sound out of line.[/QUOTE]

You tell em, Herr Kommandant.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The rule of seven states that the population would double in ten years with a 7% yearly increase. A few percent per year of natural increase over 40 years would double the population.

This does not sound out of line.

Translation: You don't know what the fuck youre talking about, as usual.

A population of 300,000 with a 2% yearly increase over 40 years equals 662,412.

 

[Marc39]

Translation: You don't know what the fuck youre talking about, as usual.

A population of 300,000 with a 2% yearly increase over 40 years equals 662,412.

Correction, dummy: An Arab population that migrated to Palestine to take advantage of opportunities created by the Jews equals 662,412.

Palestine Royal Coimmission...

The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews]and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.

The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought.

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[P F Tinmore]

A population of 300,000 with a 2% yearly increase over 40 years equals 662,412.

Correction, dummy: An Arab population that migrated to Palestine to take advantage of opportunities created by the Jews equals 662,412.

Palestine Royal Coimmission...

The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews]and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.

The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought.

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Spin it however you like. A 2% yearly increase that includes natural growth and immigration does not sound that remarkable.

Even with that increase, the Jewish population increased from about 7% to about 35% over the same time. Now that is a remarkable increase and the vast majority was imported foreigners.

 

[Marc39]

A population of 300,000 with a 2% yearly increase over 40 years equals 662,412.

Correction, dummy: An Arab population that migrated to Palestine to take advantage of opportunities created by the Jews equals 662,412.

Palestine Royal Coimmission...

The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews]and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.

The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought.

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Spin it however you like. A 2% yearly increase that includes natural growth and immigration does not sound that remarkable.

Even with that increase, the Jewish population increased from about 7% to about 35% over the same time. Now that is a remarkable increase and the vast majority was imported foreigners.

Take your schizophrenia meds. Your brain is fried.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Correction, dummy: An Arab population that migrated to Palestine to take advantage of opportunities created by the Jews equals 662,412.

Palestine Royal Coimmission...

Amazon.com: Israel: A History (9780688123635): Martin Gilbert: Books

Spin it however you like. A 2% yearly increase that includes natural growth and immigration does not sound that remarkable.

Even with that increase, the Jewish population increased from about 7% to about 35% over the same time. Now that is a remarkable increase and the vast majority was imported foreigners.

Take your schizophrenia meds. Your brain is fried.

Off topic.