Last night, Florida executed its first white man convicted of killing a black man

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Do you believe Asay was the only white person to have killed a black person in the state of Florida?

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    Last night, Florida executed its first white man convicted of killing a black man

    August 25th 2017

    After spending nearly three decades on Death Row, convicted murderer Mark James Asay was executed Thursday evening, the state's first inmate to be put to death in more than 19 months and the first execution under a lethal injection procedure never used before in Florida or any other state.

    Asay's execution at Florida State Prison was the first since a January 2016 U.S. Supreme Court decision, in a case known as Hurst v. Florida, that effectively put the state's death penalty in limbo. He also was the first white man executed for killing a black victim in Florida.
    On almost a daily basis, individuals here on US Message Board make the derogatory statements that African Americans are genetically pre-disposed to criminal behavior and that statistics show that African Americans commit crimes at a rate that is expotentially greater than whites do and far greater than their represented percentage of the population.

    I will soon be reviewing some sample data from the FBI's crime statistics database but all of this time I've been mulling over why the numbers are coming as as they do which lead me to the question regarding this case. Is it even possible it took until the year 2017 before the first white person was convicted and sentenced to death row for the murder a black person in the entire state of Florida?
     
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    Nope. Never happened before.
     
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    The Rosewood massacre was a racially motivated massacre of black people and destruction of a black town that took place during the first week of January 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida. At least six black people and two white people were killed, though eyewitness accounts suggested a death toll as high as 150. The town of Rosewood was abandoned and destroyed in what contemporary news reports characterized as a race riot. Racial disturbances were common during the early 20th century in the United States, reflecting the nation's rapid social changes. Florida had an especially high number of lynchings of black males in the years before the massacre,[2] including a well-publicized incident in December 1922.

    Before the massacre, the town of Rosewood had been a quiet, primarily black, self-sufficient whistle stop on the Seaboard Air Line Railway. Trouble began when white men from several nearby towns lynched a black Rosewood resident because of unsupported accusations that a white woman in nearby Sumner had been beaten and possibly raped by a black drifter. When the town's black citizens rallied together to defend themselves against further attacks, a mob of several hundred whites combed the countryside hunting for black people, and burned almost every structure in Rosewood. Survivors from the town hid for several days in nearby swamps until they were evacuated by train and car to larger towns. No arrests were made for what happened in Rosewood. The town was abandoned by its former black and white residents; none ever moved back.​

    Rosewood massacre - Wikipedia
     
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    Do you believe the Pope to be the first white man to ever wear a funny hat?
     
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    A white man has never killed a black man before.

    Ever.

    Anyone who tells you differently is a LSM liberal who hates America and Jesus.
     
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    This is the same thing that happened in Greenwood, Oklahoma during the Tulsa Race Riots in the area called Black Wall street. White mobs started the riots and torched the entire community yet the only people who were arrested were the black victims. Not a single white person was arrested, let alone held accountable.
    Tulsa race riot - Wikipedia

    I know at one point in the U.S. that black people, by law, could not testify against whites. What I don't recall is how these laws were overturned and when.

    If crimes against white people by blacks are being recorded but crimes against blacks by whites were not becasue they weren't considered "crimes" that would definitely affect the crime statistics numbers but I instinctively feel that's only a part of it.

    The one thing I do know is if the FBI had been collecting crime statistics during the time of the Tulsa riots, their statistics would have been wildly inaccurate while erroneously and falsely showing mass criminality by blacks, when in actuality, they were the victims.
     
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    So how can it be that no white person has ever been convicted and executed for the murder of a black person in the state of Florida prior to 2017 when all of these people were lynched?

    Florida Lynched More Black People Per Capita Than Any Other State, According to Report

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    Reuben Stacy, a 37-year-old black man, hangs from a tree on Old Davie Road in Fort Lauderdale, blood trickling down his body and dripping off his toes. Behind him, a white girl, about 7 years old, looks on, a strange smile on her face as she takes in the sight of the "strange fruit" her elders had just created that hot day in July 1935.

    Stacy was accused of attempting to assault a white woman in her home after first asking for a glass of water. According to a 1993 telling of the story, he was arrested three days later 25 miles from the scene. But no trial was ever conducted, and mere hours after his arrest, Stacy was hanged and shot.

    The infamous photograph of Stacy's death might be one of the few visual accounts of a lynching in Florida, but a new report from the Equal Justice Initiative about lynching across the American South reminds us that the Sunshine State was among the most brutal in the country when it come to race-fueled executions of black people. Per capita, Floridians lynched at a higher rate than any other state.

    Between 1877 and 1950, the report, Lynching in America: Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror, counts 3,959 examples of "racial terror lynchings," which EJI describes as violent, public acts of torture that were tolerated by public officials and designed to intimidate black victims.

    The staggering tally is 700 more than previously reported and is based on research of court records, newspaper accounts, local historians, and family descendants.

    EJI's report explains that these terror lynchings were widespread and began to decrease only once court-sanctioned capital punishment increased. In addition, the report found that many lynching victims were not accused of crimes but killed for minor social transgressions or for demanding basic rights and fair treatment.

    Of the 12 states analyzed, Florida ranked fifth, with 331 terror lynchings within its borders.

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    Per capita, however, Florida ranks first, with 0.594 lynchings for every 100,000 residents.

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    Of the 25 counties across the South with the most lynchings, Florida has six: Orange (34), Marion (30), Alachua (19), Polk (19), Columbia (17), and Taylor (17).

    "Many people are under the wrong impression that the majority of lynchings were black males assaulting white females, but most were because black men and women were accused of stealing," University of Florida professor Jack Davis, who has written about Florida lynchings, tells New Times.

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    A lynching in Texas.

    Davis adds that other historical accounts back up Florida's reputation as a lynching capital.​
     
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