Krazy Kamala: "I will implement that we have mental healthcare on-demand & drug treatment on-demand"

[IM2]

But you had multiple charges.

15 to be exact. 4 of which were complete fabrications but that is our justice system

So you had 11 true charges and had a maximum of 15 years?

Damn dude, get off your hate train and leave the man alone...….why not get back on thread topic of how Kamala will implement mental healthcare and drug treatment on demand.....like we don't already have that

Hate train my ass. He bought it up.

His comments were directed at Harris.....not you


Your comments however......not so much

He and I had the discussion. You decided to jump in.

Maybe you need to jump out.

 

[fncceo]

Let all non violent drug offenders out of prison

Agreed... in fact there is only one valid argument in favor of the criminalization of recreational drugs and, ironically, it's the very same argument that Ms Harris is bringing forward.

As with alcohol, there will inevitably be people who don't use it wisely and mess up their lives. However, that is a persons personal choice. The freedom to mess up your life is an inalienable right for Americans.

However, getting the taxpayer to foot the bill for your bad decisions isn't a right.

Legalization of drugs comes with the condition of not a single farthing of public money for drug rehab. Private problems don't entitle people to public solutions.

Wrong. If you get a health condition because of your diet, you are making the same personal choices. So we'll have no public money for heart disease.

You won't get an argument from me ... I'm for the total and complete privatization of the medical sector.

That would be a tremendous mistake.

Not for the taxpayers.

 

[HappyJoy]

Yeah, with all the talk around here about starting a civil war and shooting people, I know my health would benefit if you guys got some mental healthcare and took care of those anger issues.

for sure, and don't forget those nasty plastic straws that are such a scourge on society and remember to pick up your free hypodermic needle when ya go to vote.

Yep, you do need help.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

15 to be exact. 4 of which were complete fabrications but that is our justice system

So you had 11 true charges and had a maximum of 15 years?

Damn dude, get off your hate train and leave the man alone...….why not get back on thread topic of how Kamala will implement mental healthcare and drug treatment on demand.....like we don't already have that

Hate train my ass. He bought it up.

His comments were directed at Harris.....not you


Your comments however......not so much

He and I had the discussion. You decided to jump in.

Maybe you need to jump out.

You call that a discussion????


I 'jumped in' to call you on your BS of projecting racism.

You do realize people can have negative opinions of politicians (or anyone for that matter) that have nothing to do with the color of their skin....right?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yeah, with all the talk around here about starting a civil war and shooting people, I know my health would benefit if you guys got some mental healthcare and took care of those anger issues.

for sure, and don't forget those nasty plastic straws that are such a scourge on society and remember to pick up your free hypodermic needle when ya go to vote.

Yep, you do need help.

You are by far and away the wittiest white liberal on the planet.

 

[HappyJoy]

Yeah, with all the talk around here about starting a civil war and shooting people, I know my health would benefit if you guys got some mental healthcare and took care of those anger issues.

for sure, and don't forget those nasty plastic straws that are such a scourge on society and remember to pick up your free hypodermic needle when ya go to vote.

Yep, you do need help.

You are by far and away the wittiest white liberal on the planet.

thanks, dude.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Hill on Twitter

promises made, will they be kept?

She would have to actually be President for any of the Junk Policies to be Implemented , I will go out on a very strong limb and say that ain't happening. She should start in California she obviously knows the problem exists first hand, she lives there , she represents those people lots of wackos in Calipornia. She speaks of drug convicts like they are Choirboys. You don't get sent to Prison for smoking weed. The drug felons in Prison are right where they should be. It's a good start to curing the Addiction and drug problem she says doesn't exist. Calipornia legalized Marijuana when they could no longer house all the Felons supplying her constituents . She's so Noble! It's about the cost of incarceration not the drug epidemic taking place in Cali. I bet there aren't any drug users in the homeless camps littering California!

Let all non violent drug offenders out of prison

So your solution is to allow people that rob and burgler to be free to continue to do it.... smart, I say we move them into your house.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

thanks, dude.

lol...anytime brother

 

[IM2]

So you had 11 true charges and had a maximum of 15 years?

Damn dude, get off your hate train and leave the man alone...….why not get back on thread topic of how Kamala will implement mental healthcare and drug treatment on demand.....like we don't already have that

Hate train my ass. He bought it up.

His comments were directed at Harris.....not you


Your comments however......not so much

He and I had the discussion. You decided to jump in.

Maybe you need to jump out.

You call that a discussion????


I 'jumped in' to call you on your BS of projecting racism.

You do realize people can have negative opinions of politicians (or anyone for that matter) that have nothing to do with the color of their skin....right?

I realize a lot of things. But one of the things I have learned in 58 years is that when white gripe about how things aren't about race, that's exactly what it is about. You see a lot of things here are being said about her that have nothing to do with this policy which would not be said about a white candidate or a male candidate. Don't see you jumping on the guy who made the slaveowner claim that had nothing to do with the policy. The mention of Willie Brown had nothing to do with this policy either. And her integrity was not the thread topic either. When you are a person of color you are forced to discern what is meant to be racist and what is not. We don't get to live believing nothing is ever racist.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Damn dude, get off your hate train and leave the man alone...….why not get back on thread topic of how Kamala will implement mental healthcare and drug treatment on demand.....like we don't already have that

Hate train my ass. He bought it up.

His comments were directed at Harris.....not you


Your comments however......not so much

He and I had the discussion. You decided to jump in.

Maybe you need to jump out.

You call that a discussion????


I 'jumped in' to call you on your BS of projecting racism.

You do realize people can have negative opinions of politicians (or anyone for that matter) that have nothing to do with the color of their skin....right?

I realize a lot of things. But one of the things I have learned in 58 years is that when white gripe about how things aren't about race, that's exactly what it is about. You see a lot of things here are being said about her that have nothing to do with this policy which would not be said about a white candidate or a male candidate. Don't see you jumping on the guy who made the slaveowner claim that had nothing to do with the policy. The mention of Willie Brown had nothing to do with this policy either. And her integrity was not the thread topic either. When you are a person of color you are forced to discern what is meant to be racist and what is not. We don't get to live believing nothing is ever racist.

Sure you do......you chose not too

 

[Disir]

9 pages and nothing on the plan.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

9 pages and nothing on the plan.

There is no plan. She just said it to pander.

Much like that asinine Green Deal shit...grand and absurd bullshit with no way to pay for it

 

[Disir]

9 pages and nothing on the plan.

There is no plan. She just said it to pander.

Much like that asinine Green Deal shit...grand and absurd bullshit with no way to pay for it

I figured as much. The devil is in the details.

 

[Claudette]

The Hill on Twitter

promises made, will they be kept?

I'm wondering who the hell she thinks will pay for this "on demand" treatment??

 

[MisterBeale]

"INTEGRITY"

The hardest characteristic to hold onto in the hardest of times.

While I do believe she got where she is because she abused that integrity I can not HONESTLY judge her for it.
I have no clue what it means to be a female in her position.

I don't know much about her other than she screwed her way into positions.....that's not integrity nor good character

She'll never win 2020 anyway...maybe someone will pick her a token running mate though.

Her great grandparents owned a plantation and slaves, and neither of her parents were citizens when she was born, in effect, she is an anchor baby.

Really?

Really.

Birth Certificate, both parents registered citizens of foreign nationalities. Both held only visa's, neither had yet become a citizen.

Some folks on the radical right even claim she is not eligible. These are the same that claimed it about Obama, since his father was not a citizen.
FACT CHECK: Is Kamala Harris Not Eligible to Serve as U.S. President?


As to the other fact? Yes, when ever Kamala goes to far off into the SJW tangent, her father, a respected University Professor will publish an article reminding the public that she is an elite.

KAMALA HARRIS’ JAMAICAN HERITAGE - UPDATED - 14.01.2019 - Jamaica Global Online

No, not really. When we look back Harris great grandmother was the descendant of an Irish plantation owner named Hamilton Brown. And we all know how that probably came about.

"He was a member of the House of Assembly of Jamaica in 1820[8] and represented Saint Ann Parish in that assembly for 22 years.[6] In 1832, he met Henry Whiteley on his trip to Jamaica to whom he argued that Jamaican slaves were better off than the poor of England and therefore the British government should not interfere with the way the Jamaican planters managed their slaves; Whiteley went on to witness harsh and arbitrary whipping of slaves at the plantations that he visited during his stay."

Hamilton Brown - Wikipedia

Yep Harris is descended of a white slaveowner most likely by rape.

And since you support a inheritance baby from New York elites...

First you wrote; "No, not really."

But then you wrote, "Yep Harris is descended of a white slaveowner. . ."

 

[Disir]

The Hill on Twitter

promises made, will they be kept?

I'm wondering who the hell she thinks will pay for this "on demand" treatment??

I'm wondering who the hell she thinks will be providing it.

25% success rate with substance abuse treatment.

No beds.

Then there is that thing called rights.

The more I think about it the more this pisses me off. She is clearly blowing smoke up people's asses.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Harris needs mental healthcare.

 

[Disir]

Not half as much as her fan club. They need to demand some details instead of engaging in con artist bullshittery.

 

[McRocket]

I cannot speak for mental health - but substance abuse treatment?

What a crock of shit.

I was a crack addict and I knew LOTS of other drug addicts - and none of them got better from going to drug treatment programs. Listen to all the dozens of stories of celebrities who go to rehab and then relapse. Rehab is good for two things only - to stop you bingeing out and/or if you are the type who likes being told what to do/ordered around. But most addicts are rebels - the last thing they like is to be ordered around.
People do drugs for ONE REASON - to escape their lives. And whatever is messing them up almost certainly cannot be fixed at rehab (unless it is one of those mega-expensive ones which includes head shrinking. And you have to be 'ready' to have your 'head-shrunk'.).

And save all this 'drug abuse is a disease' shit. I did not catch drug addiction. I tried crack (by mistake - long story) and I loved it so I kept doing it. The End. I did not catch it like a disease. It was fucking awesome (and I mean fucking AWESOME - it was almost like an orgasm that lasted for as long as you were high) and I was 'ready' for it, could easily afford it and so I kept doing it. Duh.

No one - and I mean NO ONE - quits drugs until they want to badly enough. Otherwise, why would anyone ever keep doing them? Everyone knows they are terrible for you. And many of them cost a TON to do. My addiction could cost me $6-800 a day (I did not do it every day - obviously).

The two possible exceptions are heroin and opiods...
Heroin - that drug is physically addictive (the only one that was back in the day. Don't know about now). I never did it or Meth...but I know once you start heroin...it's REALLY fucking hard to quit. That's why methadone clinics are around.
Opiods - I don't know much about them. I did not know someone hooked on them when I was using.

I did crack for about 3 (technically 4) years and quit it all by myself for one reason...it just was not worth it anymore. It still felt amazing. But it just was not worth it. That was 14+ years ago (October 1, 2004)...haven't done it since. Do I miss it...damn right. But it's just not worth it (even if it was free).

And everyone I ever knew who quit a major drug did so on their own. That is the only way to have a realistic chance of staying away for good. Because rehab is fine while you are there. But your old problems/fears/frustrations crop back up when you leave rehab..and that is when you are tested.

Kamala may mean well with her idea...but she clearly has little idea what drug addiction is all about.


The solution is MAKE IT ALL LEGAL. That way people will feel free to admit their addictions. The drug will be a LOT cheaper - so addicts will not have to resort to crimes to feed their habit (I had plenty of money back then - so I could feed my habit myself). Prostitution will diminish as most escorts do it for drug money. Organized crime will be hurt. The jails will be FAR less full. Tax payers will make money as the government could tax these drugs (like they do cigs or booze). And far more money can be freed up for police to go after more serious crimes.
And save the ridiculous argument that legalizing it will mean lots more addicts. No one straight up and reasonably well adjusted decides to try heroin for the fun of it. Please.

 

[OldLady]

OK, it's too bad Willie Brown wasn't your cellmate, things could have taken off for you.

My cellmates name was Michael Navarro. He was a cool dude. He had a shorter sentence than me and he was an adult BROWN MAN in for vehicular manslaughter

But you had multiple charges.

15 to be exact. 4 of which were complete fabrications but that is our justice system

So you had 11 true charges and had a maximum of 15 years?

Damn dude, get off your hate train and leave the man alone...….why not get back on thread topic of how Kamala will implement mental healthcare and drug treatment on demand.....like we don't already have that

We got lots of addicts here and long waiting lists for treatment. For suboxone, for counseling, for inpatient programs and half way houses. The only place that seems to have room, always, is the methadone clinic, which has no problem giving you your dose each day and lets you get away with testing dirty for morphine half a dozen times before pulling you from the program. They have "counselors" that meet with people once a month for 15 minutes. It may keep addicts from breaking into your house, but that's about all it's good for.
Counselors and psychiatrists don't want to live in the middle of nowhere, especially where most everyone is on Medicaid and is going to be paying you about 1/3 what you could charge in the city. Harris is right, but she's got quite a challenge right there.