Kohain and Levite "genes" are a myth

[Victory67]

Zionists love to tell us that the so-called Kohain gene and so-called Levite gene are proof that these Jews are direct descendants of ancient Hebrews from Palestine.

Well the facts tell a very different story.

It turns out that the so-called Kohain gene is very common among people in the Middle East and North Africa.

Haplogroup J-M267 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

35% of Algerians.
35% of Tunisians.
75% of Sudanese.
30% of Ethiopians.
29% of Assyrians.
27% of Iraqis.
47% of Syrians.
49% of Jordanians.
68% of Negev Bedouin.
40% of Saudi Arabia.
33% of Kuwait.

and very interestingly for the Khazar theory, up to 70% in some Caucusas peoples.

What about the Levite gene?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a1a_(Y-DNA)

Very common in north-central India.
Very common in southeast Poland, Slovakia, northwest Ukraine, Belarus.



So do these two genes prove ancestry from Palestine? Of course not.

 

[Indeependent]

Zionists love to tell us that the so-called Kohain gene and so-called Levite gene are proof that these Jews are direct descendants of ancient Hebrews from Palestine.

Well the facts tell a very different story.

It turns out that the so-called Kohain gene is very common among people in the Middle East and North Africa.

Haplogroup J-M267 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

35% of Algerians.
35% of Tunisians.
75% of Sudanese.
30% of Ethiopians.
29% of Assyrians.
27% of Iraqis.
47% of Syrians.
49% of Jordanians.
68% of Negev Bedouin.
40% of Saudi Arabia.
33% of Kuwait.

and very interestingly for the Kharar theory, up to 70% in some Caucusas peoples.

What about the Levite gene?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a1a_(Y-DNA)

Very common in north-central India.
Very common in southeast Poland, Slovakia, northwest Ukrain, Belarus.



So do these two genes prove ancestry from Palestine? Of course not.

What does ancestry have to do with residence?

 

[Victory67]

What does ancestry have to do with residence?

It is argued that these two genes are proof of ancestry from Palestine.

But the facts show these two genes are common thousands of miles away from Palestine.

 

[Indeependent]

What does ancestry have to do with residence?

It is argued that these two genes are proof of ancestry from Palestine.

But the facts show these two genes are common thousands of miles away from Palestine.

Argued by whom?
In my circle the "Gene" is nothing more than an answer on Jeopardy.
Many descendants of Aharon and Pinchas either intermarried or converted over the millennia.
We also have plenty of Gentile DNA these days thanks to Russian Pogroms.
Where do you think all of the Blonde Jews come from?
I don't know where you got this impression that we hold this to be so important.

 

[aris2chat]

Zionists love to tell us that the so-called Kohain gene and so-called Levite gene are proof that these Jews are direct descendants of ancient Hebrews from Palestine.

Well the facts tell a very different story.

It turns out that the so-called Kohain gene is very common among people in the Middle East and North Africa.

Haplogroup J-M267 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

35% of Algerians.
35% of Tunisians.
75% of Sudanese.
30% of Ethiopians.
29% of Assyrians.
27% of Iraqis.
47% of Syrians.
49% of Jordanians.
68% of Negev Bedouin.
40% of Saudi Arabia.
33% of Kuwait.

and very interestingly for the Kharar theory, up to 70% in some Caucusas peoples.

What about the Levite gene?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a1a_(Y-DNA)

Very common in north-central India.
Very common in southeast Poland, Slovakia, northwest Ukrain, Belarus.



So do these two genes prove ancestry from Palestine? Of course not.

The Cohanim - DNA Connection
DNA & Tradition: The Genetic Link to the Ancient Hebrews - Yaakov Kleiman - Google Books
DNA proof of being an Israelite descendant, the Y Chromosome. The farce of proving one is a descendant of the Israelites by genetics.
Multiple Origins of Ashkenazi Levites: Y Chromosome Evidence for Both Near Eastern and European Ancestries
The Jewish Priesthood, God’s Everlasting Covenant to Israel - by Patrick Young, Ph.D.
Geneticists Report Finding Central Asian Link to Levites - NYTimes.com
Phylogenetic applications of whole Y-chromosome sequences and the Near Eastern origin of Ashkenazi Levites : Nature Communications : Nature Publishing Group
Haplogroup E1b1b1 - M35.1: December 2012
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[Victory67]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

 

[Indeependent]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

So which ingenious Israeli Diplomat introduced the Kohen Gene as an argument to Kerry and the Muslim Leaders knowing full well that Victory67 could refute the proof by spending 20 seconds on Wikipedia?

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

 

[Victory67]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

So which ingenious Israeli Diplomat introduced the Kohen Gene as an argument to Kerry and the Muslim Leaders knowing full well that Victory67 could refute the proof by spending 20 seconds on Wikipedia?

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Its not an argument made by Israeli politicians, you bigoted self-hating fool.

 

[Indeependent]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

So which ingenious Israeli Diplomat introduced the Kohen Gene as an argument to Kerry and the Muslim Leaders knowing full well that Victory67 could refute the proof by spending 20 seconds on Wikipedia?

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Its not an argument made by Israeli politicians, you bigoted self-hating fool.

You are implying that it IS being made as such since you are explicit that it is being used to establish residence.
So who exactly is this body of Jews who have organized themselves to turn this into a residence issue?

 

[Jroc]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

"Palestine" "Palestine" Jews are originally from the Mideast, with people added throughout history even your own Wiki link shows Kohanim are originally from the Mideast. as a side note there are plenty of blond Arabs in the region.


What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

 

[Lipush]

There is no such thing as "Palestine".

 

[Indeependent]

I would prefer for victory to put his own foot in his own mouth...yet again.

Whenever there is a lapse in his postings it means he's frantically searching for yet another strawman.

 

[aris2chat]

These two genes are not proof of ancestry from Palestine if the genes are very common in places thousands away from Palestine, in non-Jews.

[MENTION=35553]aris2chat[/MENTION], do yourself a favor and don't post genetic studies from 2003 when there are much more recent and thorough studies that tare your studies to shreds.

So which ingenious Israeli Diplomat introduced the Kohen Gene as an argument to Kerry and the Muslim Leaders knowing full well that Victory67 could refute the proof by spending 20 seconds on Wikipedia?

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Its not an argument made by Israeli politicians, you bigoted self-hating fool.

Why should they. It matters when a new temple is built that those who will build and tend it still live. Otherwise there is not question of them being jewish. It is simply evidence that there is still direct lines of jews be it eastern europe, africa, asia or beyond.
Only jews that have to prove themselves are reform jews and jewish converts to apply for aliyah and citizenship. Usually those born to non-jewish mothers or mothers who convert, but observe the faith.

 

[Victory67]

"Palestine" "Palestine" Jews are originally from the Mideast, with people added throughout history even your own Wiki link shows Kohanim are originally from the Mideast. as a side note there are plenty of blond Arabs in the region.


What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

My link says nothing about the origin of the gene.

Only that it is common all over the Middle East and North Africa.

 

[Indeependent]

"Palestine" "Palestine" Jews are originally from the Mideast, with people added throughout history even your own Wiki link shows Kohanim are originally from the Mideast. as a side note there are plenty of blond Arabs in the region.


What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

My link says nothing about the origin of the gene.

Only that it is common all over the Middle East and North Africa.

Please reply to Post 9.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Victory67]

I find it very interesting how common this gene is in the Caucusas region.

That suggests some validity to the Khazar origin theory.

And if not a Khazar origin theory then that the Khazars and their Caucasian descendants have lots of Jewish blood.

 

[aris2chat]

"Palestine" "Palestine" Jews are originally from the Mideast, with people added throughout history even your own Wiki link shows Kohanim are originally from the Mideast. as a side note there are plenty of blond Arabs in the region.


What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

My link says nothing about the origin of the gene.

Only that it is common all over the Middle East and North Africa.

"......“Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era”—scientists report that the Jews of the Diaspora share a set of telltale genetic markers, supporting the traditional belief that Jews scattered around the world have a common ancestry. But various Diaspora populations have their own distinct genetic signatures, shedding light on their origins and history. In addition to the age-old question of whether Jews are simply people who share a religion or are a distinct population, the scientific verdict is settling on the latter......."

 

[Victory67]

"......“Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era”—scientists report that the Jews of the Diaspora share a set of telltale genetic markers, supporting the traditional belief that Jews scattered around the world have a common ancestry. But various Diaspora populations have their own distinct genetic signatures, shedding light on their origins and history. In addition to the age-old question of whether Jews are simply people who share a religion or are a distinct population, the scientific verdict is settling on the latter......."

You're ignorantly ignoring the links I provided.

They show that many non-Jewish communities around the eastern hemisphere possess these genes.

 

[Indeependent]

I find it very interesting how common this gene is in the Caucusas region.

That suggests some validity to the Khazar origin theory.

And if not a Khazar origin theory then that the Khazars and their Caucasian descendants have lots of Jewish blood.

It's called rape.

 

[Victory67]

I find it very interesting how common this gene is in the Caucusas region.

That suggests some validity to the Khazar origin theory.

And if not a Khazar origin theory then that the Khazars and their Caucasian descendants have lots of Jewish blood.

It's called rape.

The Jews raped the Khazars and thats why the Levite gene is so common in the Caucusas region?

That's an interesting new theory. Which scientific or historical journal did you get that from?

Oh, right, you got it from your anus.