Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Could Walk

[rdean]

Posted by Van Helsing

Elections have consequences. One consequence of voters' appalling lapse of judgment last November is that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind behind the Muslim atrocities of 9/11, may soon be free to plot future terror attacks at his leisure.

Mohammed and the four others — Waleed bin Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali — are accused of orchestrating the attacks that killed 2,973 people on Sept. 11, 2001, and will now be tried in a courtroom down the street from the World Trade Center.
We all know they're guilty. But in a civilian circus of a trial, information gathered through means of which our liberal rulers disapprove — e.g., waterboarding — will be inadmissible. In O.J. could walk, so could K.S.M.

Maybe that's what it will take for people to understand just how insane and disgusting it was to put a leftist punk in charge of our country.

Lawmakers and victims' families expressed outrage Friday that President Obama has approved a recommendation to try self-proclaimed Sept. 11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other Guantanamo Bay to New York to face trial in a civilian federal court.
"These terrorists planned and executed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans. Treating them like common criminals is unconscionable," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said in a statement.
"This, I think, will go down as one of the worst decisions any president has ever made," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.
"The only thing they are going to do is give them a stage to mock us … and this makes me sick to my stomach," said Tim Brown, a former New York City firefighter and founder of Thebravest.com, a group that is petitioning the administration not to bring terrorists to civilian courts.
If Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's next masterpiece involves a mushroom cloud, there may come a day when people are torn apart by angry mobs on mere suspicion of having voted for the traitors who are doing this to our country.
Moonbattery

I saw on the news that more than 350 terrorists have been put to death or are behind bars for life after going through the US Justice system. Including the likes of the 5 men behind the WTC bombing when Clinton was in office and right wing Christian Republican Timothy McVeigh.

The Republicans want Military Tribunals. According to the news, the number of convictions since 9/11 for a Military Tribunal has been "three".

I have to admit, I don't have links. It was on the news and the guy that gave those facts was a Senator who retired from the CIA and on the Intelligence committee. I don't remember his name. Sorry.

What he said was we have to convict these guys going through our Justice System, the best in the world. He said we have to "trust our constitution".

Now, isn't it ironic that those that go on and on and on and on about "returning to the constitution" don't "trust" it?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfXcgCJNTg]YouTube - Putting the USA on trial[/ame]

 

[PatekPhilippe]

It's funny that you talk shit like that yet the terrorists managed to nearly break this country under BOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

Get over yourself.

We were safe under Booooooooooooooooooooosh for the remainder of his term, the same can't be said for your guy Obama, the recent terrorist attack at Ford Hood where 13 were murdered and another 30+ injured is a primo example.

Horse hockey.

We were safe, huh? Tell that to the thousands who died needlessly in Iraq. Tell that to our country which is BITTERLY divided after being completed united on 9/12. Tell that to national debt that doubled under BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH. Tell that to nation's collective 401k.

This country BROKE under BOOOOOOOOSH while you mother fuckers cheered him on.

What.... exactly...broke in your opinion?

 

[Article 15]

We were safe under Booooooooooooooooooooosh for the remainder of his term, the same can't be said for your guy Obama, the recent terrorist attack at Ford Hood where 13 were murdered and another 30+ injured is a primo example.

Horse hockey.

We were safe, huh? Tell that to the thousands who died needlessly in Iraq. Tell that to our country which is BITTERLY divided after being completed united on 9/12. Tell that to national debt that doubled under BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH. Tell that to nation's collective 401k.

This country BROKE under BOOOOOOOOSH while you mother fuckers cheered him on.

Those thousands that died in Iraq freed millions of Muslims, they did not die needlessly, they also took out a tyrant who was in fast pursuit of nuclear weapons, in which he would have used and held the middle east hostage with.

Fast pursuit of nuclear weapons that didn't exist and no capability (not even close) to make them himself.

He had at one time weapons of mass destruction of which he used on Iranians. EVERY LEADER IN EVERY COUNTRY for the last 30 years knew and was convinced of those WMD's.

Those weapons were pure garbage from the 80's. Every bit of what they found (and they did find some of it) was useless.

Had George Bush not taken out Sadam, you would have been the first one in line, screaming at the top of your lungs, SADDAM HAS WMD'S and BUSH IS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO CONFRONT HIM.

I was doing just fine without us invading Iraq. Turns out, we all were.

Who are you the last ZOMG teh WMDs jackass left on the net?

The national debt doubled under Bush, but that has since QUADRUPLED under your guy.

Pure nonsense.

The nations collective 401k can be traced back to the democratic party of the 1970's called "the Fair Housing Act," in which Bank's were forced by the GOVERNMENT to make high risk mortgage loans or be red-lined to open up new branch offices, thereby, limiting their growth and opportunities. The government under the democrats started that snow ball rollin and Barny Frank ended up with it, right up his fat ass.

The administration and their cheerleaders wanted the credit when the economy was doing well then they have to take a brunt of the blame when it goes tits up after 8 years of their rule. Sorry that "way back 40 years ago" bull squeeze aint flyin' not with all the economic cycles and changes of power since then.

 

[JW Frogen]

Herman Goering requested a civilian trial stating he thought the Final Solution was simply a radio serialization of Wagner's Ring Cycle.

 

[Contumacious]

Da-Duh--Da Duh--& if only Bill Clinton would held Saddam Husien to the UN resolution to keep UN WMD inspectors in Iraq--instead of kicking them out in 1997--we would have never had any need to believe he still possessed them & was trying to acquire more--would we.--

To add--BILL CLINTON'S intelligence on Iraq--G.W. Bush inherited. We have Bill Clinton on video recording stating that Saddam was trying to acquire more, & he along with Al Gore & John Kerry--(who was on the senate intelligence committee) also believed the same-

The ONLY people that benefit from a civilian trial is AL QUEDA. Obama has turned out to be their best friend.

Mr Dumbass, Sir:

The UN "Inspectors" were CIA Agents:

"Back in 1999, major papers ran front-page investigative stories revealing that the CIA had covertly used U.N. weapons inspectors to spy on Iraq for the U.S.'s own intelligence purposes. "United States officials said today that American spies had worked undercover on teams of United Nations arms inspectors," the New York Times reported (1/7/99). According to the Washington Post (3/2/99), the U.S. "infiltrated agents and espionage equipment for three years into United Nations arms control teams in Iraq to eavesdrop on the Iraqi military without the knowledge of the U.N. agency." Undercover U.S. agents "carried out an ambitious spying operation designed to penetrate Iraq's intelligence apparatus and track the movement of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, according to U.S. and U.N. sources," wrote the Boston Globe (1/6/99). "

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Yeah--it's probably a good idea to "spy" on our sworn enemies-- Remember Bill Clintons & Al Gore's statements--Iraq NEEDS a regime change?--

If we would have been "spying" on Al Queda--we probably could have prevented 9/11--: Ups--did I forget to mention that Bill Clinton also had several shots at Osama Bin Laden, but for one reason or another didn't take that shot--even though we had been attacked by this maniac & his coherts on 4 different occassions on Bill Clintons watch.

So all of the above G.W. Bush inherited from the Clinton administration. Yet you left wing--nut case liberals insist on putting ALL of the Blame on BOOOOOSSSSH.---

WHY was Iraq our "sworn enemy"?

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[Diuretic]

Funny, a Marine friend of mine lost a buddy in Iraq during a night ambush, and has two who are permanently disabled - one is blind, one is paralyzed - yet none of them involved or the deceased's family believes their losses were needless.

Denial is a magnificent coping mechanism.

So is Blame, Obfuscation, and Minimization. What's yer point?

You have to ask?

People are still comforted by the old lie. They should be allowed their comfort.

Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori

Even when it really isn't pro patria it's comforting for those who lose loved ones to think it is.

 

[Diuretic]

We were safe under Booooooooooooooooooooosh for the remainder of his term, the same can't be said for your guy Obama, the recent terrorist attack at Ford Hood where 13 were murdered and another 30+ injured is a primo example.

Horse hockey.

We were safe, huh? Tell that to the thousands who died needlessly in Iraq. Tell that to our country which is BITTERLY divided after being completed united on 9/12. Tell that to national debt that doubled under BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH. Tell that to nation's collective 401k.

This country BROKE under BOOOOOOOOSH while you mother fuckers cheered him on.

Those thousands that died in Iraq freed millions of Muslims, they did not die needlessly, they also took out a tyrant who was in fast pursuit of nuclear weapons, in which he would have used and held the middle east hostage with. He had at one time weapons of mass destruction of which he used on Iranians. EVERY LEADER IN EVERY COUNTRY for the last 30 years knew and was convinced of those WMD's. Had George Bush not taken out Sadam, you would have been the first one in line, screaming at the top of your lungs, SADDAM HAS WMD'S and BUSH IS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO CONFRONT HIM.

The national debt doubled under Bush, but that has since QUADRUPLED under your guy.

The nations collective 401k can be traced back to the democratic party of the 1970's called "the Fair Housing Act," in which Bank's were forced by the GOVERNMENT to make high risk mortgage loans or be red-lined to open up new branch offices, thereby, limiting their growth and opportunities. The government under the democrats started that snow ball rollin and Barny Frank ended up with it, right up his fat ass.

Get some education and some history, maybe your brain will work a little better next time.

What has happened in terms of "freedom" is that a secular dictatorship has been replaced by a religious (Shi'ite) dictatorship.

Your points about what Saddam was up to are moot.

 

[Diuretic]

Posted by Van Helsing

Elections have consequences. One consequence of voters' appalling lapse of judgment last November is that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind behind the Muslim atrocities of 9/11, may soon be free to plot future terror attacks at his leisure.

Mohammed and the four others — Waleed bin Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali — are accused of orchestrating the attacks that killed 2,973 people on Sept. 11, 2001, and will now be tried in a courtroom down the street from the World Trade Center.
We all know they're guilty. But in a civilian circus of a trial, information gathered through means of which our liberal rulers disapprove — e.g., waterboarding — will be inadmissible. In O.J. could walk, so could K.S.M.

Maybe that's what it will take for people to understand just how insane and disgusting it was to put a leftist punk in charge of our country.

Lawmakers and victims' families expressed outrage Friday that President Obama has approved a recommendation to try self-proclaimed Sept. 11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other Guantanamo Bay to New York to face trial in a civilian federal court.
"These terrorists planned and executed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans. Treating them like common criminals is unconscionable," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said in a statement.
"This, I think, will go down as one of the worst decisions any president has ever made," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.
"The only thing they are going to do is give them a stage to mock us … and this makes me sick to my stomach," said Tim Brown, a former New York City firefighter and founder of Thebravest.com, a group that is petitioning the administration not to bring terrorists to civilian courts.
If Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's next masterpiece involves a mushroom cloud, there may come a day when people are torn apart by angry mobs on mere suspicion of having voted for the traitors who are doing this to our country.
Moonbattery

I saw on the news that more than 350 terrorists have been put to death or are behind bars for life after going through the US Justice system. Including the likes of the 5 men behind the WTC bombing when Clinton was in office and right wing Christian Republican Timothy McVeigh.

The Republicans want Military Tribunals. According to the news, the number of convictions since 9/11 for a Military Tribunal has been "three".

I have to admit, I don't have links. It was on the news and the guy that gave those facts was a Senator who retired from the CIA and on the Intelligence committee. I don't remember his name. Sorry.

What he said was we have to convict these guys going through our Justice System, the best in the world. He said we have to "trust our constitution".

Now, isn't it ironic that those that go on and on and on and on about "returning to the constitution" don't "trust" it?

One of those three convictions was a guilty plea - David Hicks.

 

[The T]

Denial is a magnificent coping mechanism.

So is Blame, Obfuscation, and Minimization. What's yer point?

You have to ask?

People are still comforted by the old lie. They should be allowed their comfort.

Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori

Even when it really isn't pro patria it's comforting for those who lose loved ones to think it is.

Nice point.

 

[logical4u]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Could Walk

Not a chance - all federal courts - military or civilians - are corrupted to their core. They would have never agreed to "try" him in a civilian court if there was a chance that he was going to get a fair trial.

Padilla Jury Opens Pandora’s Box

The jury, of course, had no idea of what was at stake. It was a patriotic jury that appeared in court with one row of jurors dressed in red, one in white, and one in blue (Peter Whoriskey, Washington Post, August 17, 2007). It was a jury primed to be psychologically and emotionally manipulated by federal prosecutors desperate for a conviction for which there was little, if any, supporting evidence. For the jury, patriotism required that they strike a blow for America against terrorism. No member of this jury was going to return home to accusations of letting off a person who has been portrayed as a terrorist in the US media for five years.

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a jury of peers could be played to have all muslims on the jury, just an ugly thought.

 

[Diuretic]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Could Walk

Not a chance - all federal courts - military or civilians - are corrupted to their core. They would have never agreed to "try" him in a civilian court if there was a chance that he was going to get a fair trial.

Padilla Jury Opens Pandora’s Box

The jury, of course, had no idea of what was at stake. It was a patriotic jury that appeared in court with one row of jurors dressed in red, one in white, and one in blue (Peter Whoriskey, Washington Post, August 17, 2007). It was a jury primed to be psychologically and emotionally manipulated by federal prosecutors desperate for a conviction for which there was little, if any, supporting evidence. For the jury, patriotism required that they strike a blow for America against terrorism. No member of this jury was going to return home to accusations of letting off a person who has been portrayed as a terrorist in the US media for five years.

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a jury of peers could be played to have all muslims on the jury, just an ugly thought.

Get twelve atheists then. I'd suggest twelve agnostics but the buggers wouldn't come to a decision.

 

[The T]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Could Walk

Not a chance - all federal courts - military or civilians - are corrupted to their core. They would have never agreed to "try" him in a civilian court if there was a chance that he was going to get a fair trial.

Padilla Jury Opens Pandora’s Box

The jury, of course, had no idea of what was at stake. It was a patriotic jury that appeared in court with one row of jurors dressed in red, one in white, and one in blue (Peter Whoriskey, Washington Post, August 17, 2007). It was a jury primed to be psychologically and emotionally manipulated by federal prosecutors desperate for a conviction for which there was little, if any, supporting evidence. For the jury, patriotism required that they strike a blow for America against terrorism. No member of this jury was going to return home to accusations of letting off a person who has been portrayed as a terrorist in the US media for five years.

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a jury of peers could be played to have all muslims on the jury, just an ugly thought.

Yep. How can you confer the right to a jury of your peers when these people aren't citizens? By doing these things? They are setting the Constitution on it's ear. (But then when did they give a rat's ass about the Constitution anyway)?

They should instead do a Military Tribunal as has been done throughout history with Prisoners Of War/Enemy combatants.

 

[logical4u]

Horse hockey.

We were safe, huh? Tell that to the thousands who died needlessly in Iraq. Tell that to our country which is BITTERLY divided after being completed united on 9/12. Tell that to national debt that doubled under BOOOOOOOOOOOOSH. Tell that to nation's collective 401k.

This country BROKE under BOOOOOOOOSH while you mother fuckers cheered him on.

Funny, a Marine friend of mine lost a buddy in Iraq during a night ambush, and has two who are permanently disabled - one is blind, one is paralyzed - yet none of them involved or the deceased's family believes their losses were needless.

Denial is a magnificent coping mechanism.

You say the country is destroyed and yet, it appears that you are supporting a gov that is bankrupting the country (yes, I know it all started with Bush), even telling taxpayers that 'spending' is your way out of debt. If we all lived like this, there would be no GDP.

Okay, you don't want to fight. We get it. How do you stop 'extremists' from coming here and killing us? Or is that okay if they come here and kill us? Do you want us to win or lose the war on terror, and contrary to libs belief, there is no middle ground here? And please, answer the question: Do you think this country and its people have made the world a better place? One more: can you name a country with a majority muslim population where you would like to live?

 

[logical4u]

[Those thousands that died in Iraq freed millions of Muslims, they did not die needlessly, they also took out a tyrant who was in fast pursuit of nuclear weapons, .

HUH?

The pussies may have been hot but I don't think that they were nuclear.

Quit bullshitting, the ONLY thing Saddam like to do was to get laid, he wasn't suicidal.

He invaded Iran in order to please President Reagan.

No EVIDENCE that he had WMD's or was seeking to acquire WMD's. The whole fucking concept is a figment of the neocrazies and warmongers imagination.

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How about him using the torture and murdering of 'his' prisoners for entertainment? Do you think he was a bad parent because his boys would feed 'his' prisoners into large meat grinders while they were still alive, for amusement? Do you think that after gassing the Kurds that he would have a problem gassing people that didn't live in his country?

 

[Diuretic]

[Those thousands that died in Iraq freed millions of Muslims, they did not die needlessly, they also took out a tyrant who was in fast pursuit of nuclear weapons, .

HUH?

The pussies may have been hot but I don't think that they were nuclear.

Quit bullshitting, the ONLY thing Saddam like to do was to get laid, he wasn't suicidal.

He invaded Iran in order to please President Reagan.

No EVIDENCE that he had WMD's or was seeking to acquire WMD's. The whole fucking concept is a figment of the neocrazies and warmongers imagination.

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How about him using the torture and murdering of 'his' prisoners for entertainment? Do you think he was a bad parent because his boys would feed 'his' prisoners into large meat grinders while they were still alive, for amusement? Do you think that after gassing the Kurds that he would have a problem gassing people that didn't live in his country?

Then why was he allowed to get away with it for so long?

 

[logical4u]

BTW- Reagan did not support Suddam he supported Iran, .

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein:

The U.S. Tilts toward Iraq, 1980-1984

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 82

Edited by Joyce Battle

February 25, 2003

Did you notice, he was looking him in the eye and greeting him as another leader, not bowing in submission?

 

[rightwinger]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Could Walk

Yes he "could" walk

The same way Charlie Manson walked
The same way Jeff Dahmer walked
The same way Tim McVeigh walked

 

[logical4u]

Posted by Van Helsing

Elections have consequences. One consequence of voters' appalling lapse of judgment last November is that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind behind the Muslim atrocities of 9/11, may soon be free to plot future terror attacks at his leisure.

Mohammed and the four others — Waleed bin Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali — are accused of orchestrating the attacks that killed 2,973 people on Sept. 11, 2001, and will now be tried in a courtroom down the street from the World Trade Center.
We all know they're guilty. But in a civilian circus of a trial, information gathered through means of which our liberal rulers disapprove — e.g., waterboarding — will be inadmissible. In O.J. could walk, so could K.S.M.

Maybe that's what it will take for people to understand just how insane and disgusting it was to put a leftist punk in charge of our country.

Lawmakers and victims' families expressed outrage Friday that President Obama has approved a recommendation to try self-proclaimed Sept. 11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other Guantanamo Bay to New York to face trial in a civilian federal court.
"These terrorists planned and executed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans. Treating them like common criminals is unconscionable," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said in a statement.
"This, I think, will go down as one of the worst decisions any president has ever made," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.
"The only thing they are going to do is give them a stage to mock us … and this makes me sick to my stomach," said Tim Brown, a former New York City firefighter and founder of Thebravest.com, a group that is petitioning the administration not to bring terrorists to civilian courts.
If Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's next masterpiece involves a mushroom cloud, there may come a day when people are torn apart by angry mobs on mere suspicion of having voted for the traitors who are doing this to our country.
Moonbattery

I saw on the news that more than 350 terrorists have been put to death or are behind bars for life after going through the US Justice system. Including the likes of the 5 men behind the WTC bombing when Clinton was in office and right wing Christian Republican Timothy McVeigh.

The Republicans want Military Tribunals. According to the news, the number of convictions since 9/11 for a Military Tribunal has been "three".

I have to admit, I don't have links. It was on the news and the guy that gave those facts was a Senator who retired from the CIA and on the Intelligence committee. I don't remember his name. Sorry.

What he said was we have to convict these guys going through our Justice System, the best in the world. He said we have to "trust our constitution".

Now, isn't it ironic that those that go on and on and on and on about "returning to the constitution" don't "trust" it?

You made a good point about trusting our Constitution. If only THAT document was actually read and used by lawyers and politicians. Obama and the congress are not paying attention to the Constitution when the are limiting our rights in the health care reform act or the cap n trade or even when Obama is thinking about signing a CO2 treaty that will put the USA 'under' UN governence.
Back to the point, these are not citizens, they are animals that believe it is okay to kill thousands of people to make a point. They have not earned the right to be tried like a citizen.

 

[Diuretic]

BTW- Reagan did not support Suddam he supported Iran, .

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein:

The U.S. Tilts toward Iraq, 1980-1984

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 82

Edited by Joyce Battle

February 25, 2003

Did you notice, he was looking him in the eye and greeting him as another leader, not bowing in submission?

You never bow to a client, you've got something they want - eg poisonous gas - and you damn well look 'em in the eye, none of this obsequiousness. , it could cost your company money!