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Coal had a long and important part in the industrialization of our country, unfortunately for the miners, it just isn't the best way to power our country any more. We should invest heavily in training so those ex miners won't be left behind. They've earned the right to move forward with the rest of us.
 


As the tech improves it will be more useful.

That this is news to you, is only because you think that such decisions should be based on politics instead of economics.
 
Most of the 76000 miners will be looking for new jobs because of down sizing, robotics, and the rapid increase of renewalable energy production.

Retail jobs lost 130,000 jobs since December.

Trump needs to stop like a mindlessly chattering chipmunk bellowing about saving jobs and making America great.

He needs to get behind retraining and preparing workers for the energy industries of the near future and beyond.
 
The energy in coal is from sunlight that struck the Earth hundreds of millions of years ago, was absorbed by plants which then died and compacted layer upon layer for millions of years and coal formed from it under pressure. But when we burn it to release that energy the burning process puts billions of tons of carbon back into the atmosphere that was sequestered in the Earth for the last 300 million years.

What a novel idea, use the sun's energy directly today as it strikes the Earth. No pollution, no carbon. And once the infrastructure to capture it is in place the energy is free. Forever.
 
The 'Conservatives' are caught in their silly ass insistence that nothing can be free. Like these coal miners have the means to pay for the technical training they need and take care of their families at the same time. Providing them an income to take care of their families and get the training they need is in the best interests of this nation. As is, they face wrenching changes, for many are going to have to re-locate from a rural environment to an urban one. Not easy, I know.

Today, there are nearly 6 million jobs going begging in the US. There is competition among employers for craftsmen and automation people. These are good paying jobs, many over 100K a year. That is more jobs than coal miners. What these miners need is not false promises that cannot be kept because of the market, but told the jobs are going away, never to come back, and they need to get off the pot, and get the training that will get them jobs. And the rest of us, through our taxes, need to fund that training. These men have worked at a hard, dangerous dirty job all their lives, they deserve to be told the truth, and to be given a chance to step into a good job. The nation also needs Americans with the skills for those jobs that are going unfilled right now.
 


Why wouldn't they use anything that is subsidized by the tax payer to save direct money?

Museums are not cheap and rely on handouts

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News to me? Where have I ever said anything like that?

You're either stupid or willfully ignorant because, in point of fact, solar is not new and we have the "tech" now, have had the "tech" for a long LONG time.

Damn RWNJs. Always accusing others of what they do - like basing 'such decisions of politics instead of economics'.

If you can't keep up, :anj_stfu:

The 'Conservatives' are caught in their silly ass insistence that nothing can be free. Like these coal miners have the means to pay for the technical training they need and take care of their families at the same time. Providing them an income to take care of their families and get the training they need is in the best interests of this nation. As is, they face wrenching changes, for many are going to have to re-locate from a rural environment to an urban one. Not easy, I know.

Today, there are nearly 6 million jobs going begging in the US. There is competition among employers for craftsmen and automation people. These are good paying jobs, many over 100K a year. That is more jobs than coal miners. What these miners need is not false promises that cannot be kept because of the market, but told the jobs are going away, never to come back, and they need to get off the pot, and get the training that will get them jobs. And the rest of us, through our taxes, need to fund that training. These men have worked at a hard, dangerous dirty job all their lives, they deserve to be told the truth, and to be given a chance to step into a good job. The nation also needs Americans with the skills for those jobs that are going unfilled right now.


That's exactly why the entire planet is not power by sun and wind - its free. No one makes a profit on the energy source.

That's also why marijuana has been illegal for so long. Big pharma can't profit from something we all can grow in our backyard.

No matter how much bloviating we get from drumpf and no matter that RWNJs are too damn dumb to GET IT, coal is not coming back. As has been discussed before, those who used to make their living from coal would have training for new jobs available to them.

Instead, the cheeto just signed an order giving the 1% owners permission to poison the miners' water while lying to them that he is bringing back their jobs.
 

bear513

You mean like when President Carter installed solar on the WH only to have it moved by the tax and spend Repub president?

You mean like that?

Why wouldn't the US use solar everywhere? If smaller countries who have much smaller tax bases, can afford it, why can't we?

Oh yeah, I forgot - its much more important to the RWNJ traitors to put our money in the pockets of the cheeto's 1% cronies.

The US can only follow along behind smaller countries who, because they invest in their own people and their own future generations, those countries have a healthy economy, free education but the US can't do that.

You dummies. We came so close to saving the middle class and catching up to the rest of the world but thanks your stupidity, we never will. That's right - never.
 

bear513

You mean like when President Carter installed solar on the WH only to have it moved by the tax and spend Repub president?

You mean like that?

Why wouldn't the US use solar everywhere? If smaller countries who have much smaller tax bases, can afford it, why can't we?

Oh yeah, I forgot - its much more important to the RWNJ traitors to put our money in the pockets of the cheeto's 1% cronies.

The US can only follow along behind smaller countries who, because they invest in their own people and their own future generations, those countries have a healthy economy, free education but the US can't do that.

You dummies. We came so close to saving the middle class and catching up to the rest of the world but thanks your stupidity, we never will. That's right - never.


Solar won't work good in Alaska and I have a small solar panels for my garage and shed ...i forgot about Reagan removing the solar panels thanks for reminding me.


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The 'Conservatives' are caught in their silly ass insistence that nothing can be free. Like these coal miners have the means to pay for the technical training they need and take care of their families at the same time. Providing them an income to take care of their families and get the training they need is in the best interests of this nation. As is, they face wrenching changes, for many are going to have to re-locate from a rural environment to an urban one. Not easy, I know.

Today, there are nearly 6 million jobs going begging in the US. There is competition among employers for craftsmen and automation people. These are good paying jobs, many over 100K a year. That is more jobs than coal miners. What these miners need is not false promises that cannot be kept because of the market, but told the jobs are going away, never to come back, and they need to get off the pot, and get the training that will get them jobs. And the rest of us, through our taxes, need to fund that training. These men have worked at a hard, dangerous dirty job all their lives, they deserve to be told the truth, and to be given a chance to step into a good job. The nation also needs Americans with the skills for those jobs that are going unfilled right now.

And let us mention, retail jobs lost last month were 130,000 which is added to the tens of thousands of jobs being lost in retail due to people buying more from the internet stores.

Coal mining employs a total of 70,000 people. More than double that number of jobs have already been lost in retail alone. What exactly garners miners special treatment? It looks like they are looking for a handout from the government.

Yeah let's bring back whalers and make sure Nantucket's families are ok, and let's not forget all the great builders of wooden sailing ships and their families and way of life, and we have to make sure all the people that made rotary and push button phones get their jobs and industry back and the textile industry and steel mills.

Nobody likes such a huge change in lifestyle but it is normal with progress. Democrats want to provide money to retrain these people and get them into current jobs making more money and becoming productive members of the society again. Conservatives want to bring back the horse and buggy industry.
 
The 'Conservatives' are caught in their silly ass insistence that nothing can be free. Like these coal miners have the means to pay for the technical training they need and take care of their families at the same time. Providing them an income to take care of their families and get the training they need is in the best interests of this nation. As is, they face wrenching changes, for many are going to have to re-locate from a rural environment to an urban one. Not easy, I know.

Today, there are nearly 6 million jobs going begging in the US. There is competition among employers for craftsmen and automation people. These are good paying jobs, many over 100K a year. That is more jobs than coal miners. What these miners need is not false promises that cannot be kept because of the market, but told the jobs are going away, never to come back, and they need to get off the pot, and get the training that will get them jobs. And the rest of us, through our taxes, need to fund that training. These men have worked at a hard, dangerous dirty job all their lives, they deserve to be told the truth, and to be given a chance to step into a good job. The nation also needs Americans with the skills for those jobs that are going unfilled right now.

And let us mention, retail jobs lost last month were 130,000 which is added to the tens of thousands of jobs being lost in retail due to people buying more from the internet stores.

Coal mining employs a total of 70,000 people. More than double that number of jobs have already been lost in retail alone. What exactly garners miners special treatment? It looks like they are looking for a handout from the government.

Yeah let's bring back whalers and make sure Nantucket's families are ok, and let's not forget all the great builders of wooden sailing ships and their families and way of life, and we have to make sure all the people that made rotary and push button phones get their jobs and industry back and the textile industry and steel mills.

Nobody likes such a huge change in lifestyle but it is normal with progress. Democrats want to provide money to retrain these people and get them into current jobs making more money and becoming productive members of the society again. Conservatives want to bring back the horse and buggy industry.

Mis read. 30K lost in retail last month. 100K + lost overall the last six months. Everything else stands.
 
We very much need to set up training programs for all those that have had technology remove their jobs. Making Community Colleges tuition free, and subsidizing e-books for the courses would be a good start. As stated before, we have good paying jobs going begging for lack of trained personnel. Senator Sanders was absolutely correct in stating that we should make at least Community College free. We were one of the first nations to make High School free. And our industry vastly benefited from that in WW2.
 

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