Judge Napolitano: Manafort's plea deal is literally "pardon proof". Trump is screwed

[nat4900]

You make accusations without any proof.

When someone like Skye is a member of the Trump cult, reality, truth and irrefutable evidence all become "fake news".......Sad.

 

[Dana7360]

Here's the "little problem" with Trump's pardons.......(Manafort is charged with STATE crimes in at least FOUR states.)

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. ... However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense

However a state governor can.

If you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

 

[nat4900]

f you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

Want to guess on the "color" of such states as NY, NJ, VA and possibly CA???

 

[Dana7360]

f you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

Want to guess on the "color" of such states as NY, NJ, VA and possibly CA???

They're all blue states. Mueller isn't stupid. This is getting very good.

 

[Astrostar]

Just what does Mueller have regarding the Russia collusion? Any liberals want to enlighten?
From what I see it's nadda.

So, you are saying in effect that you are privy to Mueller's investigation and any evidence he might have. Otherwise, how would you know that there is "no collusion?"
Opps, my bad, I guess it's because Trump says "no collusion.:"

 

[Meister]

Just what does Mueller have regarding the Russia collusion? Any liberals want to enlighten?
From what I see it's nadda.

So, you are saying in effect that you are privy to Mueller's investigation and any evidence he might have. Otherwise, how would you know that there is "no collusion?"
Opps, my bad, I guess it's because Trump says "no collusion.:"

Oppps, your comprehension skills are that of a child in the third grade. Please reread what I posted.
If you didn't figure it out, then go back to reading 'comprehension 101'.
Because, I was asking a question and giving an 'OPINION'.

 

[cutter]

I used tolike him but he is one reason I canceled Dishnet.

 

[Hossfly]

Here's the "little problem" with Trump's pardons.......(Manafort is charged with STATE crimes in at least FOUR states.)

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. ... However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense

However a state governor can.

If you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

I didn't say he would, I said he can.

 

[jc456]

Manafort is screwed and Donald Trump is caught in an impeachment trap if he attempts to pardon Manafort.

Then there is the case of Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner who are both likely to be indicted.

This case will build to a crescendo around the 2020 elections sinking the GOP in Trump slime.

Goodbye Donald Trump and Trumplings. I hope you enjoy jail.

Melania is not immune either. There is still the case of the $30 million missing from the inauguration celebration donations.

Manafort pardon would be impeachable, indictable and convictable

Judge Napolitano: Manafort's plea deal is literally "pardon proof"
Christian Dem in NC
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Remember all the fears that Trump could simply pardon Paul Manafort for any federal crimes? Well, rest easy. In what appears to be a stroke of legal genius, Robert Mueller apparently structured the plea deal in a way to take that prospect into account. According to Fox News’ Judge Andrew Napolitano, any attempt to pardon Manafort would not only be political suicide, but would be a waste of effort legally.

Ed Krassenstein mentioned this on Twitter, and I thought it was snark.

Ed Krassenstein
@EdKrassen
BOOM! Judge Napolitano reports that in Paul Manafort's guilty plea, Robert Mueller also required Manafort to plead guilty to uncharged state crimes in New Jersey, Virginia and California to "make it pardon proof".
Robert Mueller is a genius, and Manafort appears to be screwed!
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4:12 AM - Nov 28, 2018

But per Raw Story, it isn’t. Napolitano told Shep Smith about a legal quarter-stick of dynamite contained in the lengthy plea agreement Manafort signed—175 pages worth. Manafort not only pleaded guilty to federal charges of bank fraud, money laundering and bribery, but also the aforementioned state charges.

The beauty of it, per Napolitano?
“Why did they do that? To make it pardon proof so if President Trump, which he can do, does pardon him for the federal crimes the state prosecutors in those states already have his guilty plea.” (emphasis mine)
Well, this is an interesting development. We already knew that if Trump were stupid enough to pardon Manafort, New York state prosecutors would file state-level charges before the ink even had time to dry. But guilty pleas to state charges in New Jersey, Virginia and California? Obviously some other prosecutors are taking a long look at the Trump crime family.

Now Mueller’s team has put Manafort on notice that Manafort’s lies have cost him a chance at a reduced sentence—thus exposing him to enough prison time to make him a decrepit old man if he ever gets out of federal prison alive. And apparently the plea agreement is structured so that there is literally nothing Trump can do to save him.
Simply put, Manafort is screwed eighty ways to Sunday. ...

if the plea deal is dropped, there is no plea deal. so explain how that happens from your OP if the plea deal is dropped? splain lucy

 

[jc456]

Just what does Mueller have regarding the Russia collusion? Any liberals want to enlighten?
From what I see it's nadda.

So, you are saying in effect that you are privy to Mueller's investigation and any evidence he might have. Otherwise, how would you know that there is "no collusion?"
Opps, my bad, I guess it's because Trump says "no collusion.:"

dude collusion isn't a crime,, so what is it you're waiting for?

 

[WorldWatcher]

if the plea deal is dropped, there is no plea deal. so explain how that happens from your OP if the plea deal is dropped? splain lucy

The plea deal wasn't dropped, Manafort violated his commitment to telling the truth.

His violation of the plea deal is then reported to the Judge who can impose a higher sentence since Manafort reneged on what he agreed to.


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[Dana7360]

Here's the "little problem" with Trump's pardons.......(Manafort is charged with STATE crimes in at least FOUR states.)

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. ... However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense

However a state governor can.

If you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

I didn't say he would, I said he can.

Yes only a governor can pardon state crimes.

It's not going to happen with manafort. That man is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

[jc456]

if the plea deal is dropped, there is no plea deal. so explain how that happens from your OP if the plea deal is dropped? splain lucy

The plea deal wasn't dropped, Manafort violated his commitment to telling the truth.

His violation of the plea deal is then reported to the Judge who can impose a higher sentence since Manafort reneged on what he agreed to.


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huh how do they know it isn't the truth?

BTW, we're all waiting on that camera shot of Manafort going into the embassy.

 

[jc456]

Here's the "little problem" with Trump's pardons.......(Manafort is charged with STATE crimes in at least FOUR states.)

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. ... However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense

However a state governor can.

If you think that the governor of one of those states is going to pardon manafort, I've got a bridge to sell you very cheap.

I didn't say he would, I said he can.

Yes only a governor can pardon state crimes.

It's not going to happen with manafort. That man is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

the president will pardon him. you really do believe anything a leftist tells you.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This is the really really really really big one.

 

[jc456]

This is the really really really really big one.

really really really reallly big one.

 

[jc456]

the left jump and shit like it has peanut butter and chocolate on it. it's truly fascinating to watch.

 

[cutter]

American politics is a viscous game. In this country instead of cutting them up and disposing of their bodys we just send bankrupt them then send them to prison for life. At least in Saudi Arabia their families can still keep their money, unlessthey kill the families too. Ain’t America great, we let the family live in poverty.

 

[Dragonlady]

Last I heard he hasn't been pardoned and probably won't be.

Go back to Canada and freeze your ass off.

I can't "Go back to Canada", because I haven't left. This may come as a surprise to you but you can post to the internet from any country in the world.

Canadians don't freeze our asses off. We spend 1/4 of our lives living in winter conditions and we are nothing if not adaptable. Something that Americans have never learned. We play in ice and snow, and we dress for the cold. I used to ski when I was younger. I'm going for a knee replacement in the new year. I was supposed to go for the MRI two weeks ago, but had to postpone due to a family emergency. After a lifetime of getting thrown from horses, falling down mountains, two broken legs, one broken toe, and a broken foot, it's all catching up to me.

Fortunately my new knee and the new hip which is sure to follow, will cost me not one dime. Thanks to my 50+ years as a contributing tax payer in a country which sees their people as their greatest asset.

Just think. Stuck on my ass at home, recuperating, I'll have to ton more time to engage you in these discussions on the horrors of living in a social democracy. I'll be doing this from the comfort of my cozy home in a beautiful, summer tourist town, which is heaven most months of the year. I can watch the windmills producing clean electricity from my back deck.

 

[jc456]

Last I heard he hasn't been pardoned and probably won't be.

Go back to Canada and freeze your ass off.

I can't "Go back to Canada", because I haven't left. This may come as a surprise to you but you can post to the internet from any country in the world.

Canadians don't freeze our asses off. We spend 1/4 of our lives living in winter conditions and we are nothing if not adaptable. Something that Americans have never learned. We play in ice and snow, and we dress for the cold. I used to ski when I was younger. I'm going for a knee replacement in the new year. I was supposed to go for the MRI two weeks ago, but had to postpone due to a family emergency. After a lifetime of getting thrown from horses, falling down mountains, two broken legs, one broken toe, and a broken foot, it's all catching up to me.

Fortunately my new knee and the new hip which is sure to follow, will cost me not one dime. Thanks to my 50+ years as a contributing tax payer in a country which sees their people as their greatest asset.

Just think. Stuck on my ass at home, recuperating, I'll have to ton more time to engage you in these discussions on the horrors of living in a social democracy. I'll be doing this from the comfort of my cozy home in a beautiful, summer tourist town, which is heaven most months of the year. I can watch the windmills producing clean electricity from my back deck.

you think Chicago, Fargo, Minneapolis and Detroit are different? I'll bet we all get worse weather than you. and we're below your sorry ass. More violent winters at that. So spare me your fking canadian stupid.