Judeo/Christian Morals and Values

[Vandalshandle]

Name us one country that has the 1st amendment and 2nd? All based on the Bible.

Umm..What Bible are you reading?

Thou shalt not put aside thy rod, and 100 round ammo drum. Book of NRA, Chapter 6, verse 12.

 

[Leo123]

What part of the bible teaches you to insult people non stop?

Maybe the 'eye of an eye' part.

 

[Leo123]

Thou shalt not put aside thy rod, and 100 round ammo drum. Book of NRA, Chapter 6, verse 12.

AMEN!!

 

[Taz]

What part of the bible teaches you to insult people non stop?

Maybe the 'eye of an eye' part.

"eye of an eye". never heard of that.

 

[BreezeWood]

liar ...

the civil war was started and fought by the bible belt embedded in the southern states - the same bible belt that began the slave trade and were their owners.

Hey 'Breezy'.....There were many causes of the Civil War. In fact the subject has been debated ad-nausea throughout American History. You also lie about the 'bible belt' and use that moniker to try to racially smear a whole portion of the U.S. I know you are anti-Christian because you try to conflate slavery with Judeo/Christian morals and values. You seem oblivious to the fact that the North was also very religious. In fact all of America is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values. I don't know where you went to school but, get your money back. Google could have taught you better.

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You also lie about the 'bible belt' and use that moniker to try to racially smear a whole portion of the U.S.

christians including the other desert religions actively employ revisionist history to substitute the moral backbone they lack when actual history beckons for the triumph of good vs evil -

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in spite of and the reason for the civil war amendments insuring justice and equality for all is the direct result of christian intransigence.

No one is employing revisionist history except you. The photo of your Klan family is no proof that Christianity promotes institutional slavery and there is no institutional slavery in the U.S. today. Take your hatred and racist garbage somewhere else please.

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The photo of your Klan family is no proof that Christianity promotes institutional slavery

name any century since the 4th christianity has not been at the forefront of bigotry of one type or another or any century christianity did not reflect the persecution and victimization of the innocent - or that of any of the desert religions - or a geographic region the same was not the case, try south america or the native americans as your example.

revisionist history has always been the bedrock for denial by the offending congregations.

 

[watchingfromafar]

I never said there weren’t any. People just don’t know about them. They don’t know about them because their people were not successful in passing them down like the Jews did.

I'm sorry if what I am about to say upsets you--

As a bystander; I may not see this from your point of view<..>

Tell me; Oh Wise One-----
What did the Jews pass down-?
just curious -

 

[Indeependent]

I never said there weren’t any. People just don’t know about them. They don’t know about them because their people were not successful in passing them down like the Jews did.

I'm sorry if what I am about to say upsets you--

As a bystander; I may not see this from your point of view<..>

Tell me; Oh Wise One-----
What did the Jews pass down-?
just curious -

Charity and compassion, even for dark people.

 

[ding]

I never said there weren’t any. People just don’t know about them. They don’t know about them because their people were not successful in passing them down like the Jews did.

I'm sorry if what I am about to say upsets you--

As a bystander; I may not see this from your point of view<..>

Tell me; Oh Wise One-----
What did the Jews pass down-?
just curious -

Not upsetting at all. Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. But there's nothing special about me.

The first five books of the Bible (known as the Torah) were written by Moses - an adopted son of the king of Egypt - in approximately 1400 B.C.. These five books focus on the beginning of the nation of Israel; but the first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years. Moses did not really write the first 11 chapters of the Bible. Moses was the first Hebrew to record them.

Approximately 800 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world. The Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Bible even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 800 years before Moses recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So if we start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

We have to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, we are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning. If you were to ask almost any Jew what the Tower of Babel was about he would have no clue that it was the allegorical account of the great migration from the cradle of civilization. That is not intended to be a criticism. It is intended to be an illustration of just how difficult a task it is to discover the original meaning from ancient accounts from 6,000 years ago. We read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make ourselves feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom.

 

[Leo123]

name any century since the 4th christianity has not been at the forefront of bigotry of one type or another or any century christianity did not reflect the persecution and victimization of the innocent - or that of any of the desert religions - or a geographic region the same was not the case, try south america or the native americans as your example.

revisionist history has always been the bedrock for denial by the offending congregations.

So which Judeo/Christian religion promotes slavery in the U.S. today? Where is the institutional slavery in America today? You just hate Christianity. Are you an Atheist or a Muslim?

 

[Leo123]

"eye of an eye". never heard of that.

Yes you are a

 

[Bezukhov]

It is my contention that the U.S. Constitution is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values. They are objective and not pliable by those who believe in relative morality. Those who wish to undermine America will first start chipping away at it's core values. The Democrat party is the party of demolition.

If it was soooo obvious why didn't Theodosius I write up some sort of a constitution like ours way back in 380 AD when he made Christianity the only religion allowed in the Roman Empire?

While your at it please show in the Bible any specific instructions telling Christians what to do if and when they ever seized earthly political power. Better yet, show me where Christians were told to seize political power at all.

Truth is, if you value the rights you have go thank that Baphomet worshiping Freemason over there.

 

[BreezeWood]

name any century since the 4th christianity has not been at the forefront of bigotry of one type or another or any century christianity did not reflect the persecution and victimization of the innocent - or that of any of the desert religions - or a geographic region the same was not the case, try south america or the native americans as your example.

revisionist history has always been the bedrock for denial by the offending congregations.

So which Judeo/Christian religion promotes slavery in the U.S. today? Where is the institutional slavery in America today? You just hate Christianity. Are you an Atheist or a Muslim?

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So which Judeo/Christian religion promotes slavery in the U.S. today?

you lost the civil war -

takes a while though to remove the monuments ... is that you holding the rope.

 

[Leo123]

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you lost the civil war -

takes a while though to remove the monuments ... is that you holding the rope.

Wake up Breezy, you're drifting again.

 

[Leo123]

If it was soooo obvious why didn't Theodosius I write up some sort of a constitution like ours way back in 380 AD when he made Christianity the only religion allowed in the Roman Empire?

While your at it please show in the Bible any specific instructions telling Christians what to do if and when they ever seized earthly political power. Better yet, show me where Christians were told to seize political power at all.

Truth is, if you value the rights you have go thank that Baphomet worshiping Freemason over there.

So...What does that have to do with my post? All you're doing is rambling on about how much you hate Christians. They didn't 'seize power' in the U.S. in fact, the Founders specifically isolated religion from State. You can worship the goat all you want. That IS what you do....Yes?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It is my contention that the U.S. Constitution is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values.

To a degree, sure. That's the power of contemporary culture. For one, that doesn't mean abrahamic religions were the origins of these values, or that they were all exclusive only to this one culture. Secondly, stating a basis like this is not in any way an argument for loyalty to these cultures or religions, as we have improved greatly upon this archaic culture. If anything, you highlight the shortcomings of this culture of values, as they stood in the 18th century, by highlighting to how much work we have had to do in order to improve upon them.

 

[Baron]

It is my contention that the U.S. Constitution is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values. .

It is wrong to mix Judaism and Christianity.
There are Christian morals and values and Jewish ones.
And they are different

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

One has to wonder how the Jews made it across the desert as a group without the knowledge that they shouldn't murder each other and steal from each other...

 

[diver52]

It is my contention that the U.S. Constitution is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values. They are objective and not pliable by those who believe in relative morality. Those who wish to undermine America will first start chipping away at it's core values. The Democrat party is the party of demolition.

I think you have not a clue what the founders thought.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It is my contention that the U.S. Constitution is based on Judeo/Christian morals and values. They are objective and not pliable by those who believe in relative morality. Those who wish to undermine America will first start chipping away at it's core values. The Democrat party is the party of demolition.

I think you have not a clue what the founders thought.

...because our GOP president is the very model of Christian morality....

 

[Leo123]

...because our GOP president is the very model of Christian morality....

Nobody's perfect. You saw that with your Christian idol Bill Clinton. Then....Obama with his Muslim roots......Which nobody was supposed to mention. It's obvious that the American people DO NOT vote for Christianity............ so much for your diatribe.