Nothing says family values like Florida MAGA GOP leaders

it is a little late for me to preach

rest assured, god in no way expects christians to be pacifists in the face of evil, guns are here to protect the good
More often the guns are used by the evil to spread their eveil.
More often the guns are used by the weak and paranoid. They end up injuring and killing those they fear.
Too often irresponsible, ignorant humans own guns. They do not take proper precautions and people are injured and killed by accident.

Evil, weak, paranoid, irresponsibe, ignorant humans are the problem.
Putin, Hamas and MAGA are examples.
 
More often the guns are used by the evil to spread their eveil.
More often the guns are used by the weak and paranoid. They end up injuring and killing those they fear.
Too often irresponsible, ignorant humans own guns. They do not take proper precautions and people are injured and killed by accident.

Evil, weak, paranoid, irresponsibe, ignorant humans are the problem.
Putin, Hamas and MAGA are examples.
yet, more crimes are prevented by citizens who legally own guns than the police

your opinion is what is ignorant
 
More often the guns are used by the evil to spread their eveil.
More often the guns are used by the weak and paranoid. They end up injuring and killing those they fear.
Too often irresponsible, ignorant humans own guns. They do not take proper precautions and people are injured and killed by accident.

Evil, weak, paranoid, irresponsibe, ignorant humans are the problem.
Putin, Hamas and MAGA are examples.
your comment is evil, it prevents the good from living
your comment is irresponsible, it ignores facts
your comment is ignorant, it is your opinion devoid of facts

Myth: Private ownership of guns is not effective in preventing crime​

Fact: “Victims who have and use guns have both lower losses and lesser injury rates from violent crime.” 1

GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies 2023-09
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Rates of Modes of defensive gun uses (DGUs) and projected incident count
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Armed Felon Attitudes toward Armed Victims
Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 2 Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they “almost certainly” saved their lives by doing so.

Fact: Even the government’s estimate, which has a major methodology problem, 3 estimates people defend themselves 235,700 times each year with guns. 4

Fact: Victims with guns “would reduce … the criminals’ incentives to commit violent crimes and to be armed.” 5

Fact: The number of times per year an American uses a firearm to deter a home invasion alone is 498,000. 6

Fact: In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense. 7

Fact: There are approximately 182,000 defensive gun uses in public each year. 8

Fact: The rate of defensive gun use (DGU) is six times that of criminal gun use. 9

Fact: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. 10

Fact: In most of the remaining 8% of defensive gun uses, a citizen never wounds his or her attacker (they fire warning shots), and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed. 11

Fact: 41% of justifiable homicides using a gun were by private citizens, the others by law enforcement. 12

Fact: In one local review of firearm homicide, more than 12% were civilian legal defensive homicides. 13

Fact: For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) 14 with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) 15 are preserved through defensive use.


Fact: When using guns in self-defense, 91.1% of the time, not a single shot is fired. 16

Fact: After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate. 17
 
yet, more crimes are prevented by citizens who legally own guns than the police

your opinion is what is ignorant
Bullshit. You lie! You make shit up. Your life is based on lies.

 
your comment is evil, it prevents the good from living
your comment is irresponsible, it ignores facts
your comment is ignorant, it is your opinion devoid of facts

Myth: Private ownership of guns is not effective in preventing crime​

Fact: “Victims who have and use guns have both lower losses and lesser injury rates from violent crime.” 1

GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies 2023-09
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Rates of Modes of defensive gun uses (DGUs) and projected incident count
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Armed Felon Attitudes toward Armed Victims
Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 2 Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they “almost certainly” saved their lives by doing so.

Fact: Even the government’s estimate, which has a major methodology problem, 3 estimates people defend themselves 235,700 times each year with guns. 4

Fact: Victims with guns “would reduce … the criminals’ incentives to commit violent crimes and to be armed.” 5

Fact: The number of times per year an American uses a firearm to deter a home invasion alone is 498,000. 6

Fact: In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense. 7

Fact: There are approximately 182,000 defensive gun uses in public each year. 8

Fact: The rate of defensive gun use (DGU) is six times that of criminal gun use. 9

Fact: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. 10

Fact: In most of the remaining 8% of defensive gun uses, a citizen never wounds his or her attacker (they fire warning shots), and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed. 11

Fact: 41% of justifiable homicides using a gun were by private citizens, the others by law enforcement. 12

Fact: In one local review of firearm homicide, more than 12% were civilian legal defensive homicides. 13

Fact: For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) 14 with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) 15 are preserved through defensive use.


Fact: When using guns in self-defense, 91.1% of the time, not a single shot is fired. 16

Fact: After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate. 17
These are made up statistics by the gun manufacturers lobbying group, the ERA.
 
your comment is evil, it prevents the good from living
your comment is irresponsible, it ignores facts
your comment is ignorant, it is your opinion devoid of facts

Myth: Private ownership of guns is not effective in preventing crime​

Fact: “Victims who have and use guns have both lower losses and lesser injury rates from violent crime.” 1

GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies 2023-09
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs) studies
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Rates of Modes of defensive gun uses (DGUs) and projected incident count
GUNS AND CRIME PREVENTION - Armed Felon Attitudes toward Armed Victims
Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 2 Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they “almost certainly” saved their lives by doing so.

Fact: Even the government’s estimate, which has a major methodology problem, 3 estimates people defend themselves 235,700 times each year with guns. 4

Fact: Victims with guns “would reduce … the criminals’ incentives to commit violent crimes and to be armed.” 5

Fact: The number of times per year an American uses a firearm to deter a home invasion alone is 498,000. 6

Fact: In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense. 7

Fact: There are approximately 182,000 defensive gun uses in public each year. 8

Fact: The rate of defensive gun use (DGU) is six times that of criminal gun use. 9

Fact: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. 10

Fact: In most of the remaining 8% of defensive gun uses, a citizen never wounds his or her attacker (they fire warning shots), and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed. 11

Fact: 41% of justifiable homicides using a gun were by private citizens, the others by law enforcement. 12

Fact: In one local review of firearm homicide, more than 12% were civilian legal defensive homicides. 13

Fact: For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) 14 with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) 15 are preserved through defensive use.


Fact: When using guns in self-defense, 91.1% of the time, not a single shot is fired. 16

Fact: After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate. 17
You lying sack of mud. The police don't want more guns in citizens hands. We need to train those who have guns.
Idiots like you give all gun owners a bad game.

 
You lying sack of mud. The police don't want more guns in citizens hands. We need to train those who have guns.
Idiots like you give all gun owners a bad game.

armed citizens are the best deterrence to crime
 
Nothing says family values like Florida MAGA GOP leaders.
Christian Ziegler, MAGA backed chairman of the Florida GOP and his wife Bridgitt, co-founder of MAGA Moms for Liberty group have exposed their family values.
Christian has been accused of rape by a Florida woman. In testimony, Bridgett testified the woman, who accused Christian, had had sex togther, a menge et toi. Christian admitted having sex with the woman but said it was consentual and his wife was not part of this event.
Bridget is leading a MAGA group putting pressure on school boards to take their definition of immorality out of the school curriculum.
Maybe Christaina and Bridget should start by cleaning up the morality at home.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MAGA HYPOCRISY

No worries, he'll get the same pass the "grab'em by the pussy" got.
 
armed citizens are the best deterrence to crime
Exactly, KILLED. The police are trained. They only kill when absolutely necessary.
Untrained citizens get trigger happy.
That is why they are not too excited about too many guns in everyone's hands.
the untrained idiots not only kill criminals when not necessary but they kill police and common citizens.
The answer is for more training.
No doubt you would be a trigger happy danger with a gun in the general populatiom.
Training, Training, Training
 
Exactly, KILLED. The police are trained. They only kill when absolutely necessary.
Untrained citizens get trigger happy.
That is why they are not too excited about too many guns in everyone's hands.
the untrained idiots not only kill criminals when not necessary but they kill police and common citizens.
The answer is for more training.
No doubt you would be a trigger happy danger with a gun in the general populatiom.
Training, Training, Training
The facts disagree with your unsubstantiated opinion.
Fact: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers
 
The facts disagree with your unsubstantiated opinion.
Fact: Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers
YOUR FACTS SHOWED PRIVATE CITIZENS KILLED MORE CRIMINALS THAN THE POLICE. That should not happen. I provided multiple documents contradicting your claims.
You will never learn. You cannot handle the truth and the real world
 
YOUR FACTS SHOWED PRIVATE CITIZENS KILLED MORE CRIMINALS THAN THE POLICE. That should not happen. I provided multiple documents contradicting your claims.
You will never learn. You cannot handle the truth
you are wrong again, of justified homicides, 59% were by the police, 41% by citizens.
Fact: 41% of justifiable homicides using a gun were by private citizens, the others by law enforcement
 
I gave the link, I am quoting from what I have already posted. The last fact posted came from the US government
The stat you quoted was before 2019, since 2019 there have been more justifiable homicides by private citizens.
Plus your stat is about justifiable homicides. Many homicides by trigger happy citizens, thinking they are protecting themselves, are determined to not be justifiable homicide. Substantially more than are determined to be justified.


 
The stat you quoted was before 2019, since 2019 there have been more justifiable homicides by private citizens.
Plus your stat is about justifiable homicides. Many homicides by trigger happy citizens, thinking they are protecting themselves, are determined to not be justifiable homicide. Substantially more than are determined to be justified.


okay, you linked? your links both confirm I am right, thank you
 
okay, you linked? your links both confirm I am right, thank you
Can you read?
You said
you are wrong again, of justified homicides, 59% were by the police, 41% by citizens.
my stats
2022 - 316 justifiable homicides by police, 463 by citizens
And

Guns in America: For every criminal killed in self-defense, 34 innocent people die​

 
please provide the passage from the bible
Romans
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

 
Romans
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Most Biblical scholars agree Romans addresses unrestrained lust, not sexual orientation.​

 

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