John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

[LordBrownTrout]

Not at all irrelevant. I was responding to CC.

No, it actually is irrelevant

Lol. So you can't respond. I was hoping but I guess not....

I suspect you're trying to elicit a response on Obama because you don't have something of merit to say about the actual thread topic which is how Kelly has framed some of Trump's remarks.

Kelly's remarks don't matter as most posts go off on several tangents. I'm just trying to get past the superficial stuff. Evidently, CC couldnt get past that. Thats too bad. I lost a lot of respect for CC today and will not respond anymore.

Kelly's remarks don't matter as most posts go off on several tangents.

Excuse me? Tangential is, in a discussion about John Kelly's remarks in a press briefing about Trump's remarks and actions, bringing up what Obama did. Hell, that's not really even tangential because with tangential comments there is at least some point at which there is a substantive intersection of the points brought into the discussion. For this discussion topic, there is no point of intersection between anything Obama did and John Kelly's defense of President Trump’s remarks during a phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson, the widow of Sgt. La David T. Johnson who was killed in 2017 while actively serving in Niger.

Anything is tangential. I learned that from applied mathematics and geology.

 

[usmbguest5318]

No, it actually is irrelevant

Lol. So you can't respond. I was hoping but I guess not....

I suspect you're trying to elicit a response on Obama because you don't have something of merit to say about the actual thread topic which is how Kelly has framed some of Trump's remarks.

Kelly's remarks don't matter as most posts go off on several tangents. I'm just trying to get past the superficial stuff. Evidently, CC couldnt get past that. Thats too bad. I lost a lot of respect for CC today and will not respond anymore.

Kelly's remarks don't matter as most posts go off on several tangents.

Excuse me? Tangential is, in a discussion about John Kelly's remarks in a press briefing about Trump's remarks and actions, bringing up what Obama did. Hell, that's not really even tangential because with tangential comments there is at least some point at which there is a substantive intersection of the points brought into the discussion. For this discussion topic, there is no point of intersection between anything Obama did and John Kelly's defense of President Trump’s remarks during a phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson, the widow of Sgt. La David T. Johnson who was killed in 2017 while actively serving in Niger.

Anything is tangential. I learned that from applied mathematics and geology.

Clearly, you didn't at all learn what a tangential relationship/connection is.

• Definition of Tangent (line)

Non-intersecting relationships are called "skewed," and that's exactly the nature of the Obama-Wall St. remark you made with regard to Kelly's comments.

 

[MarkDuffy]

General Kelly’s Paean to MAGA

Kelly’s words …

It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred. You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore as we see from recent cases. Life — the dignity of life — is sacred. That’s gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well.

Gold Star families, I think that left in the convention over the summer. But I just thought — the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.

That is the ideological spine. The rhetorical spine of his remarks was even clearer. Attacks on President Trump are attacks on the sanctity of heroism and patriotic sacrifice itself. Again, attacking President Trump is attacking the troops. It’s the same maneuver driving Trump’s war on the NFL. Kneeling during the national anthem to protest racism and police misconduct really isn’t about police brutality or racism it all. It’s spitting on the sacrifice of American soldiers.

How whipsawed must someone who was aghast at President Trump’s lying about former Presidents and failure even to note the deaths of these four soldiers be to learn that they were in fact dishonoring military service and sacrifice and failing to respect the President who, in Kelly’s words, “very bravely does make those calls.”

General Kelly's Paean to MAGA

It was very revealing what Kelly said letting his hair down

Sad

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ok, this coming from a Trump critic (some call me a

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Ok, this coming from a Trump critic (some call me a hater even) but this was the dumbest thing I have read on this forum in a while.

The part the made me laugh the most was the quip about Semper Fi. Talk about someone being clueless!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

One's having served in the military hardly puts one above reproach. In American history, the verity of that being so dates at least to Benedict Arnold. Arnold is not alone:

• Veterans in Prison and Jail, 2011–12
  
• Rapid fall, possible life in prison for Army general accused of sex crimes
  
• Retired 4-star Army general accused of assaulting Chinese food delivery man, resisting arrest

Benedict Arnold was overlooked by a congress, in favor of local pork, for several commendations and promotions. What happened then happens now.

 

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John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

 

[usmbguest5318]

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

One's having served in the military hardly puts one above reproach. In American history, the verity of that being so dates at least to Benedict Arnold. Arnold is not alone:

• Veterans in Prison and Jail, 2011–12
  
• Rapid fall, possible life in prison for Army general accused of sex crimes
  
• Retired 4-star Army general accused of assaulting Chinese food delivery man, resisting arrest

Benedict Arnold was overlooked by a congress, in favor of local pork, for several commendations and promotions. What happened then happens now.

Irrelevant. The point to which you responded, the net essence of Kelly's argument/justification, is that having served in the military puts one above reproach. As I have shown, having served in the military does not at all do so. Why one commits whatever wrongful or criminal acts one does -- be one in the military or not -- has nothing to do with whether the acts and actor are or are not above reproach.

 

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Ok, this coming from a Trump critic (some call me a

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Ok, this coming from a Trump critic (some call me a hater even) but this was the dumbest thing I have read on this forum in a while.

The part the made me laugh the most was the quip about Semper Fi. Talk about someone being clueless!

Well, let me take time to consider your well researched retort. "Someone being clueless" of what? Who knows?

Dumbest things I have read - How? Who knows?

The one thing I did learn was that you laughed, so thats something

 

[Meathead]

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

 

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John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

And Bears shit in the woods but that nor none of the things we are discussing are conspiracies either

 

[Meathead]

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

And Bears shit in the woods but that nor none of the things we are discussing are conspiracies either

Sure. General Kelley is planning a military coup. Couldn't be clearer.

Seriously, even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

 

[MarkDuffy]

It Gets Uglier

Today White House Press Briefing may turn out to be uglier than yesterday’s. Sarah Sanders just doubled down on the phony FBI building story, claimed Wilson said the really bad things off camera and then it was “highly inappropriate” to get into a “debate” with a Marine 4 Star General.

“If you want to go after General Kelly that’s up to you but i think that that … if you want to get into a debate with a Four Star Marine General I think that that’s something highly inappropriate.”

It Gets Uglier

The best part is trump claimed to know more than the Generals, so trump broke the Sarah Rule

 

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John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

And Bears shit in the woods but that nor none of the things we are discussing are conspiracies either

Sure. General Kelley is planning a military coup. Couldn't be clearer.

Seriously, even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Oh I get it now! You didnt read it so you think someone is suggesting Kelly is staging a Coup LMAO! Here is why you're funny, you think this belongs in conspiracy because you think someone said something no one has ever said.

Youre entire outrage is based on your ignorance and you want someone to play in the mud with you? Sorry buddy, but just because you came into a thread not knowing what the fuck anyone is talking about doesnt mean you deserve to be engaged.

Go read and then come back with a different opinion of what someone actually says, not what you made up

 

[Meathead]

Good Lord! Doesn't this belong in Conspiracy Theory? Even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

And Bears shit in the woods but that nor none of the things we are discussing are conspiracies either

Sure. General Kelley is planning a military coup. Couldn't be clearer.

Seriously, even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Oh I get it now! You didnt read it so you think someone is suggesting Kelly is staging a Coup LMAO! Here is why you're funny, you think this belongs in conspiracy because you think someone said something no one has ever said.

Youre entire outrage is based on your ignorance and you want someone to play in the mud with you? Sorry buddy, but just because you came into a thread not knowing what the fuck anyone is talking about doesnt mean you deserve to be engaged.

Go read and then come back with a different opinion of what someone actually says, not what you made up

I know you to be a snowflake of very modest intellect:

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments...

Does the word "implicit" mean anything to you? I repeat myself, even acute butthurt does not account for this shit.

 

[eddiew37]

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

I guess Kelly left out how he feels about punks who avoided service because of a lol bone spur

 

[MarkDuffy]

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

I guess Kelly left out how he feels about punks who avoided service because of a lol bone spur

The trump House of Cards, dripping with hypocrisy

Perhaps this is the storm after the calm?

 

[eddiew37]

maybe trump doesn't like his heroes dead ?

 

[MarkDuffy]

maybe trump doesn't like his heroes dead ?

That was the first thing I thought also, when Niger became the word not to be mentioned. A spinoff of McCain and I don't like soldiers who got captured.

But this goes deeper. This is a fail for trump and he cannot have that. We are starting to hear Benghazi II rumors ~ The US wanted to keep a small footprint. Then there is also the withdrawal of Chad troops after trump put them on the ban list. And that might have been done due to Chad's problems with Tillerson's Exxon.

 

[OldLady]

John Kelly and the Language of the Military Coup

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments.

Argument 1. Those who criticize the President don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t served in the military.

2. The President did the right thing because he did exactly what his general told him to do.

3. Communication between the President and a military widow is no one’s business but theirs.

4. Citizens are ranked based on their proximity to dying for their country. Kelly’s last argument was his most striking. At the end of the briefing, he said that he would take questions only from those members of the press who had a personal connection to a fallen soldier, followed by those who knew a Gold Star family. Considering that, a few minutes earlier, Kelly had said most Americans didn’t even know anyone who knew anyone who belonged to the “one per cent,” he was now explicitly denying a majority of Americans—or the journalists representing them—the right to ask questions. This was a new twist on the Trump Administration’s technique of shunning and shaming unfriendly members of the news media, except this time, it was framed explicitly in terms of national loyalty. As if on cue, the first reporter allowed to speak inserted the phrase “Semper Fi”—a literal loyalty oath—into his question.

Before walking off the stage, Kelly told Americans who haven’t served in the military that he pities them. “We don’t look down upon those of you who haven’t served,” he said. “In fact, in a way we are a little bit sorry because you’ll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our servicemen and women do—not for any other reason than that they love this country.”

Kelly stood up there and pretty much tried to lecture everyone else on what it means to serve and that he and others that serve feel sorry for the rest of us. And that anyone who dares question anything they do is in effect a shitty person because, as mentioned, he served in the military so he's beyond question.

He didn't mean to criticize you. Why are you taking it so personally?
This doesn't have anything to do with a coup, I think.

 

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Wait, are you saying the press conference never happened? Because if it did, it doesnt belong in conspiracy silly

Come on asshole. The Kennedy assassination happened too.

And Bears shit in the woods but that nor none of the things we are discussing are conspiracies either

Sure. General Kelley is planning a military coup. Couldn't be clearer.

Seriously, even acute butthurt doesn't account for this.

Oh I get it now! You didnt read it so you think someone is suggesting Kelly is staging a Coup LMAO! Here is why you're funny, you think this belongs in conspiracy because you think someone said something no one has ever said.

Youre entire outrage is based on your ignorance and you want someone to play in the mud with you? Sorry buddy, but just because you came into a thread not knowing what the fuck anyone is talking about doesnt mean you deserve to be engaged.

Go read and then come back with a different opinion of what someone actually says, not what you made up

I know you to be a snowflake of very modest intellect:

Consider this nightmare scenario: a military coup. You don’t have to strain your imagination—all you have to do is watch Thursday’s White House press briefing, in which the chief of staff, John Kelly, defended President Trump’s phone call to a military widow, Myeshia Johnson. The press briefing could serve as a preview of what a military coup in this country would look like, for it was in the logic of such a coup that Kelly advanced his four arguments...

Does the word "implicit" mean anything to you? I repeat myself, even acute butthurt does not account for this shit.

Why are you reposting what I pasted then asking about the definition of the word implicit?

Are we talking about you believing someone was saying Kelly was staging a Coup? Or have you given that bullshit up to ask if I know the definitions of words and conceding the point that you dont know wtf you're talking about?