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That man's a power-mad ass.
He's damned lucky the women didn't die during childbirth.
Nope, not interested in the debate of ethics, only in the law in this instance. Ravi assumes that some of us want her out because she's latino. I find that accusation offensive. Only issue: was she here legally - if not, then she and her baby go home. And I don't really care whether she was shackled while she gave birth - that was her choice - she broke the law of the US, then I have no sympathy for her.
I don't care what someone's status is...you don't force a woman to give birth in shackles.Gotta love the conservative love of Latinos.
Gotta love the idiots who make it about race. It's about the law, Ravi.... they aren't just guidelines. If someone is here illegally, I don't give a shit where they come from - they go home. Simples.
Gotta love the lefties who are incapable of working out the difference between racism and abiding by the law.
I don't care what someone's status is...you don't force a woman to give birth in shackles.Gotta love the conservative love of Latinos.
Gotta love the idiots who make it about race. It's about the law, Ravi.... they aren't just guidelines. If someone is here illegally, I don't give a shit where they come from - they go home. Simples.
Gotta love the lefties who are incapable of working out the difference between racism and abiding by the law.
Gotta love the conservative love of Latinos.
So what exactly did this newborn baby do to deserve being treated this way?If she hadn't broken our laws, she would not have been shackled. To be honest, I don't really care very much about her discomfort. Send her, and her anchor baby back to whereever they come from.
I couldn't give a shit about a 'newborn baby' other than it's mother is here illegally. Little baby is welcome to live a long and happy life - in it's country, not ours.
Why should the baby be sent to a country it's never been to? How has the baby broken the law? Was it an illegal birth?Gotta love the idiots who make it about race. It's about the law, Ravi.... they aren't just guidelines. If someone is here illegally, I don't give a shit where they come from - they go home. Simples.
Gotta love the lefties who are incapable of working out the difference between racism and abiding by the law.
Aside from the fact that "Latinos" are not a race, have you considered the earlier observation that "[l]egal and ethical standards are divergent (i.e. slavery was legal but unethical; slave liberation was ethical, but illegal), so a mere comment on criminality doesn't constitute an ethical comment in and of itself"?
Nope, not interested in the debate of ethics, only in the law in this instance. Ravi assumes that some of us want her out because she's latino. I find that accusation offensive. Only issue: was she here legally - if not, then she and her baby go home. And I don't really care whether she was shackled while she gave birth - that was her choice - she broke the law of the US, then I have no sympathy for her.
He has public relations staff working full time to promote his image.That man's a power-mad ass.
He's damned lucky the women didn't die during childbirth.
Why should the baby be sent to a country it's never been to? How has the baby broken the law? Was it an illegal birth?Aside from the fact that "Latinos" are not a race, have you considered the earlier observation that "[l]egal and ethical standards are divergent (i.e. slavery was legal but unethical; slave liberation was ethical, but illegal), so a mere comment on criminality doesn't constitute an ethical comment in and of itself"?
Nope, not interested in the debate of ethics, only in the law in this instance. Ravi assumes that some of us want her out because she's latino. I find that accusation offensive. Only issue: was she here legally - if not, then she and her baby go home. And I don't really care whether she was shackled while she gave birth - that was her choice - she broke the law of the US, then I have no sympathy for her.
You may not care that the mother was shackled and unable to hold her newborn, but how can you not care for the baby's sake? A newborn baby needs to be cradled by it's mother. This infant has been made to suffer for no fault of it's own. It did not chose to be born in the US, it did not even chose to be born at all.
I though conservatives were all for family values and motherhood and all that. I guess you only deserve that if you are a white baby.
Did they really think a woman in labor had any real chance of escaping from the detention center? ??I don't care what someone's status is...you don't force a woman to give birth in shackles.Gotta love the conservative love of Latinos.
Gotta love the idiots who make it about race. It's about the law, Ravi.... they aren't just guidelines. If someone is here illegally, I don't give a shit where they come from - they go home. Simples.
Gotta love the lefties who are incapable of working out the difference between racism and abiding by the law.
I really hope that these cretins who approve of shackling mothers giving birth are not parents themselves.I don't care what someone's status is...you don't force a woman to give birth in shackles.Gotta love the conservative love of Latinos.
Gotta love the idiots who make it about race. It's about the law, Ravi.... they aren't just guidelines. If someone is here illegally, I don't give a shit where they come from - they go home. Simples.
Gotta love the lefties who are incapable of working out the difference between racism and abiding by the law.
Off topic, I suppose the forced birthers will resort to that if they succeed in overturning Roe.I don't care what someone's status is...you don't force a woman to give birth in shackles.
So what exactly did this newborn baby do to deserve being treated this way?
I couldn't give a shit about a 'newborn baby' other than it's mother is here illegally. Little baby is welcome to live a long and happy life - in it's country, not ours.
Not surprising you would not give a shit about a newborn baby. Now if, however, the mother had requested an abortion, perhaps even asked for government assistance to pay for the abortion since conceivably she is destitute and unable to pay for or even access proper medical care while in this concentration camp that the Sheriff runs, I'm pretty certain you and your ilk would be want to deny her that because a fetus is something you people care about, as long as it stays a fetus. Once it becomes a child, like you said, you all "don't give a shit".
And by the way, the baby was born here just like presumably you were. This is it's country.