Joe Biden's Ukraine Scandal

If a Republican did it to a Communist, the Republican would go to prison for life, and probably be tortured the way Manifort was by the Inquisition.
Manafort was tortured now? Oh my. You have a flare for drama. You know he’s a crook right?

Are you fucking kidding?

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He was sent to jail on June 15 pending trial after pleading not guilty to charges filed by the special counsel, which alleged that he and his associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, of Moscow, obstructed justice in the Russia investigation.

Manafort has asked a federal appeals court to order his release from custody pending his separate upcoming federal trials, the earliest of which starts in Virginia later in July.

Meanwhile, Manafort's attorney filed a motion Friday requesting a change of venue and "other relief relating to jury selection." The motion cited a concern about "pretrail publicity" possibly affecting the trial.

Prison officials earlier indicated that Manafort was being held in a special isolated area of the prison. Manafort seeks to be released, his lawyers said, to better prepare for those criminal trials.}

Paul Manafort being held in solitary confinement, lawyers say

Fuckign thug Weissman put him in a "no contact" area.

Yes, the Inquisition tortured him for months to try and get him to perjure himself against the President.

Did Weissman make Manafort violate his bail agreement?

Did Manafort make Weissman violate his civil rights?

Manafort had two rooms. A private bathroom. A laptop. A phone. Meetings from his lawyers.

I know that Manafort is probably a limp wristed spoiled brat, but do you actually think that's torture?

First off, I flat out don't believe you, For one thing, he was denied ALL CONTACT, can't you read? So a phone? Liar.
 
Don't you remember? Don Jr was looking to take damaging information from Russians. If it's illegal for Chalupa to do so, why not Don Jr?

Ohhh look, the discredited Russian Collusion conspiracy theory.

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The investigation did not establish any agreement among Campaign officials or between such officials and Russia-linked individuals to interfere with or obstruct a lawful function of a government agency during the campaign or transition period. And, as discussed in Volume 1, Section V.A, supra, the investigation did not identify evidence that any Campaign official or associate knowingly and intentionally participated in the conspiracy to defraud that the Office charged, namely, the active-measures conspiracy described in Volume 1, Section II, supra.

Accordingly, the Office did not charge any Campaign associate or other US. person with conspiracy to defraud the United States based on the Russia-related contacts described in Section IV above.

The investigation did not, however, yield evidence sufficient to sustain any charge that any individual affiliated with the Trump Campaign acted as an agent of a foreign principal within the meaning of FARA or, in terms of Section 951, subject to the direction or control of the government of Russia, or any official thereof. In particular, the Office did not find evidence likely to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Campaign officials such as Paul Manafott, George Papadopoulos, and Carter Page acted as agents of the Russian government or at its direction, control, or request during the relevant time period.1232
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:lol:

Fucking liar.

I guarantee I know more about this than you. Mueller considered charges for Don Trump Jr. He decided not to because of the following: (this is directly from the Mueller report page 185-186.

The Office considered whether this evidence would establish a conspiracy to violate the foreign contributions ban, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371; the solicitation of an illegal foreignsource contribution; or the acceptance or receipt of “an express or implied promise to make a 185 U.S. Department of Justice Attorney Work Product // May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e) [foreign-source] contribution,” both in violation of 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(1)(A), (a)(2). There are reasonable arguments that the offered information would constitute a “thing of value” within the meaning of these provisions, but the Office determined that the government would not be likely to obtain and sustain a conviction for two other reasons: first, the Office did not obtain admissible evidence likely to meet the government’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted “willfully,” i.e., with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct; and, second, the government would likely encounter difficulty in proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the value of the promised information exceeded the threshold for a criminal violation, see 52 U.S.C. § 30109(d)(1)(A)(i)

Some of the language used is college level so I'll break it down for you. Asking for damaging information from a foreign entity could be illegal but they couldn't prove that Don Trump Jr knew that was going to be illegal (the too stupid to commit a crime defense) and they couldn't put a monetary value on the information.

So as you can see, Don Trump Jr did exactly what you're accusing Chalupa of doing. Obtaining information from a foreign source for election purposes. If Chalupa broke the law, so did Trump Jr.

Mueller couldn't decide if his depends were talking to him. The demented old fool is in the final stages of Alzheimer's. You disgusting pig Communists USED Mueller as cover for your corrupt enterprise BECAUSE he is incompetent. Weissman would have LOVED to have persecuted Don Jr. and frankly Barron if he could get away with it. BUT the corrupt pile of shit was not able to fabricate sufficient dirt.
This is one of your more ignorant unsubstantiated rants. Calm down and come back to reality
 
Isn’t that her right as an American?

If a Republican did it to a Communist, the Republican would go to prison for life, and probably be tortured the way Manifort was by the Inquisition.
Manafort was tortured now? Oh my. You have a flare for drama. You know he’s a crook right?

Are you fucking kidding?

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He was sent to jail on June 15 pending trial after pleading not guilty to charges filed by the special counsel, which alleged that he and his associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, of Moscow, obstructed justice in the Russia investigation.

Manafort has asked a federal appeals court to order his release from custody pending his separate upcoming federal trials, the earliest of which starts in Virginia later in July.

Meanwhile, Manafort's attorney filed a motion Friday requesting a change of venue and "other relief relating to jury selection." The motion cited a concern about "pretrail publicity" possibly affecting the trial.

Prison officials earlier indicated that Manafort was being held in a special isolated area of the prison. Manafort seeks to be released, his lawyers said, to better prepare for those criminal trials.}

Paul Manafort being held in solitary confinement, lawyers say

Fuckign thug Weissman put him in a "no contact" area.

Yes, the Inquisition tortured him for months to try and get him to perjure himself against the President.

Did Weissman make Manafort violate his bail agreement?

Did Manafort make Weissman violate his civil rights?
Translation: I’m too stupid to explain it so I’m gonna avoid answering and just call you a dummy instead. # trolling101
 
you’ve wasted far more of your life trying to avoid having direct discussions. Case in point. Pages have gone by and dozens of useless posts where you’ve been unable to answer two simple questions. Instead you rant on like a broken record about how ignorant I am. Do you see the irony here?


just because you refuse to accept the answers doesnt mean I didnt answer,,,
Yes that is a true statement. However not applicable... you’ve responded a ton bit have not answered my question. It took me three pages for you to answer the first question and now we are going on another three pages and you still haven’t answered the Second... you’re just wasting space:


it took 3 pages for you to accept the answer

at some point you have to stop blaming others for your ignorance,,,
:th_spinspin::trolls::trolls:


I ACCEPT YOUR SURRENDER,,,
That’s not surrender smart guy that’s not playing your troll games anymore.
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

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Manafort was tortured now? Oh my. You have a flare for drama. You know he’s a crook right?

Are you fucking kidding?

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He was sent to jail on June 15 pending trial after pleading not guilty to charges filed by the special counsel, which alleged that he and his associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, of Moscow, obstructed justice in the Russia investigation.

Manafort has asked a federal appeals court to order his release from custody pending his separate upcoming federal trials, the earliest of which starts in Virginia later in July.

Meanwhile, Manafort's attorney filed a motion Friday requesting a change of venue and "other relief relating to jury selection." The motion cited a concern about "pretrail publicity" possibly affecting the trial.

Prison officials earlier indicated that Manafort was being held in a special isolated area of the prison. Manafort seeks to be released, his lawyers said, to better prepare for those criminal trials.}

Paul Manafort being held in solitary confinement, lawyers say

Fuckign thug Weissman put him in a "no contact" area.

Yes, the Inquisition tortured him for months to try and get him to perjure himself against the President.

Did Weissman make Manafort violate his bail agreement?

Did Manafort make Weissman violate his civil rights?

Manafort had two rooms. A private bathroom. A laptop. A phone. Meetings from his lawyers.

I know that Manafort is probably a limp wristed spoiled brat, but do you actually think that's torture?

First off, I flat out don't believe you, For one thing, he was denied ALL CONTACT, can't you read? So a phone? Liar.

You wrote “no contact”. That phrase doesn’t even appear in the article you listed. Are you so gullible you just run with whatever people say without checking it out?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7201b6-851d-11e8-8f6c-46cb43e3f306_story.html

Read this. Also note, Manafort wasn’t fighting just solitary confinement. He was fighting any kind of confinement. He asked the judge that he be released, not to be placed in general population. Tell me, if your ass was as lily white and delicate as Manafort, would you want to be in general population?
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

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lets not confuse Rudy’s KGB buddy with Ukraine’s parliament.
 
What is a "Ukrain?"
Sandhill-cranes.jpg


They fly in "U" formations
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?
 
Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Time for a recap

Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma AFTER they were investigated for corruption.

They were not under investigation when his father helped get the corrupt prosecutor removed. That prosecutor was NOT investigating corruption. In fact he was taking bribes NOT to.

By removing Shokin...Joe Biden was actually putting his son in jeopardy IF there was actual corruption. But there wasn't.

No corruption and no investigation

Was Hunter overpaid for his service on the Burisma Board? Take that up with them. There are plenty of Board members around the world who are under qualified and over paid (if that is truly the case)

That is NOT a crime....


Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Why? Is it a problem if I believe Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch? That’s what people are saying.
 
Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Why? Is it a problem if I believe Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch? That’s what people are saying.


Believe what you want, I researched it and gave you a fact. Do with it what you will.

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When you own the Media, the DOJ and the Intelligence Agencies you can cover up anything and investigate anything. That has been made obvious since 2016 with the Democrat Impeachment Force.

Who owns the media? FOX News lead the cries of Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Hillary's Emails, Fast and Furious, IRS, and Clinton Pay for Play. Breitbart's Robert Mercer paid for the book "Clinton Cash". The Sinclair owned local stations - the largest network in the USA, are promoting Trump's lies.

Tell me how many indictments were produced by all of those phony investigations being pushed by the Right Wing media. You fools are still telling us about the Benghazi cover-up, which 7 Republican lead investigations say never happened, or the email crimes of Hillary Clinton which 5 Republican Investigations by the FBI (2), the IG, the State Department, and the Senate produced no charges, no recommendations for charges, and no crimes.

The left wing media pushed Watergate, Iran Contra, and now Trump's Ukraine Scandal, all of which have produced indictments, and the first two which produced literally dozens of abuse of power charges against the Republican Administrations which produced these scandals.

Trump\s scandal is less than 3 months old and we've got the House drafting Articles of Impeachment on what in any court in the land would be a slam dunk bribery case, and is only being fought by Republicans to keep from getting primaried.
 
Yeah, that's why the Ukraine parliament is saying Biden and Archer were paid using stolen State funds and the Burisma founder is in hiding. LMAO

Biden, partners receive $16.5 mln in payments stolen from Ukraine – MP Derkach

.

Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

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I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Why? Is it a problem if I believe Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch? That’s what people are saying.

Because this is a proveable lie, and if you continue to tell a proveably lie after your information has been corrected, this is evidence that either : (a) You are continuing to lie even though you know the truth; or (b) Your refusal to believe the facts and your inability to process the truth demonstrate your mental unfitness for office.

In regards to (a), Nixon was impeached for lying to the American public about Watergate. Similarly, Trump can be impeached for knowingly lying about the Ukraine. If you want to go with door (b), removal from office is both urgent and necessary.
 
Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

.
I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Why? Is it a problem if I believe Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch? That’s what people are saying.

Because this is a proveable lie, and if you continue to tell a proveably lie after your information has been corrected, this is evidence that either : (a) You are continuing to lie even though you know the truth; or (b) Your refusal to believe the facts and your inability to process the truth demonstrate your mental unfitness for office.

In regards to (a), Nixon was impeached for lying to the American public about Watergate. Similarly, Trump can be impeached for knowingly lying about the Ukraine. If you want to go with door (b), removal from office is both urgent and necessary.
What point are you trying to make?

CrowdStrike was co-founded by George Kurtz(CEO),[4][5] Dmitri Alperovitch (CTO),[6] and Gregg Marston (CFO, retired) in 2011.[7][8] In 2012, Shawn Henry, a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) official who led both the FBI's criminal and cyber divisions, was hired to lead sister company CrowdStrike Services, Inc., which focused on proactive and incident response services.[9
 
Trump has garnered support from three members of parliament. They’re all very suspect characters. You can read all about it here. (FYI, you link is to Interfax, a Russian media outlet, so grain of salt).

3 Ukrainian lawmakers doing Trump’s dirty work in scandal | KyivPost - Ukraine's Global Voice

Derkach was trained by the Russian KGB (not a joke, actually happened), was a member of Ukraine’s awfully suspect secret police, and was a member of the pro-Russia Party of Regions.

What a peach.


LMAO, and the co-founder of Crowdstrike is a Russian, so what's your point?

.
I thought Crowdstrike was owned by a wealthy Ukrainian?


Guess that just proves your line of work ain't think'n.

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Why? Is it a problem if I believe Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian oligarch? That’s what people are saying.

Because this is a proveable lie, and if you continue to tell a proveably lie after your information has been corrected, this is evidence that either : (a) You are continuing to lie even though you know the truth; or (b) Your refusal to believe the facts and your inability to process the truth demonstrate your mental unfitness for office.

In regards to (a), Nixon was impeached for lying to the American public about Watergate. Similarly, Trump can be impeached for knowingly lying about the Ukraine. If you want to go with door (b), removal from office is both urgent and necessary.
I’m aware of that. Apparently the other poster would ridicule me for satirically believe what they would never criticize Trump for actually believing.
 
I'm missing something in this whole thread. What, exactly, was debunked and whom debunked it? Everyone seems to use that a lot but I've seen no one define that which was debunked or who did the debunking.
 

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