Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia?

[Doc7505]

Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia?
It is a bad idea for Washington to give its partners the impression that they have a blank to go to war and expect American forces to come to the rescue if the fighting goes poorly.​

Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia? | The National Interest
5 Apr 2012 ~~ By Ted Alen Carpenter
Biden’s administration is going out of its way to assure Ukraine’s government that the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) have Kiev’s back in its growing confrontation with Russian-supported separatists and Russia itself. An April 2 White House press release confirmed that in his telephone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Joe Biden “affirmed the United States’ unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbas and Crimea.” Other high-level administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken have done the same.
Such confrontational verbal posturing would be troubling enough by itself. However, it’s taking place in the aftermath of new armed clashes between Ukrainian government and separatist forces. Until recently, a cease fire agreement negotiated in 2020 has held reasonably well, but tensions are now rising sharply. In response to the renewed fighting, Russia has moved additional forces to its border with Ukraine. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also issued a warning that if Kiev restarted the war in the Donbas region, that move would lead to Ukraine’s destruction.
Positions are hardening in other respects. Ukraine’s government announced that joint military exercises with Ukrainian and NATO troops likely would take place sometime this summer. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned that any deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine would force Russia to take “additional measures to ensure its own security.”
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Yet the Biden administration seems intent to blunder onward. There is now the risk of two unfortunate outcomes from this approach: one bad, and one horrendous. The most likely outcome is a repetition of the Georgia episode, in which a country Washington encouraged to take a confrontational stand against Russia acts on an exaggerated assumption of U.S. backing, suffers a decisive military defeat and is humiliated, while U.S. leaders, for all their verbal posturing, prudently refrain from going to war. The United States would come away looking both feckless and irresponsible.
~Snip~
It would be the ultimate folly, since it could culminate in nuclear war, but given the intense level of hostility toward Moscow evident in the administration and much of Washington’s political elite, it is a possibility that can’t be ruled out.
The Biden administration urgently needs to rethink its Ukraine policy. Washington is issuing a security promise to Kiev that no sensible American should be willing to have the United States redeem.


Comment:
Why should NATO have any interest in helping the Kiev government installed by a coup expand the geographical territory it wants.
The people in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea have the same right to seize their areas and get assistance that the people who grabbed Kiev did.
No national interest for NATO and the USA necessitating an alliance that includes Germany to re-fight battles on WWII eastern front battlefields.
Meanwhile Chyna Joey Xi has embarked on emasculating and destroying our military while poking the Russian bear.
Like Obama, Joey Xi will probably send blankets and MRE's to arm the Ukraine....
If Putin attacks the Ukraine as he did in the "Annexation of the Crimea" Joey Xi will fold. Oh he may bluter and shake a sabre, but he will ceratinly fold....

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[theHawk]

Nope, the war pimps that run Washington and own idiots like Joe Biden could care less about democracy and the will of any free people.

So now Biden is willing to send US troops to die fighting for some Nazi Ukrainian government trying to rule and oppress the people of Crimea and Donbas regions, not to mention to provoke a war with Russia.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Nope, the war pimps that run Washington and own idiots like Joe Biden could care less about democracy and the will of any free people.

So now Biden is willing to send US troops to die fighting for some Nazi Ukrainian government trying to rule and oppress the people of Crimea and Donbas regions, not to mention to provoke a war with Russia.

Thank you for having such a good understanding of the situation.

 

[Doc7505]

Nope, the war pimps that run Washington and own idiots like Joe Biden could care less about democracy and the will of any free people.

So now Biden is willing to send US troops to die fighting for some Nazi Ukrainian government trying to rule and oppress the people of Crimea and Donbas regions, not to mention to provoke a war with Russia.

You have to believe that if Trump had won the election fair and square as he should have, Vladimir Putin woulddn't be moving on the Ukraine....

 

[ESay]

You have to believe that if Trump had won the election fair and square as he should have, Vladimir Putin woulddn't be moving on the Ukraine..

I dont think you should take his moves too seriously. He is just flexing his muscles, I think.

 

[Esdraelon]

Nope, the war pimps that run Washington and own idiots like Joe Biden could care less about democracy and the will of any free people.

So now Biden is willing to send US troops to die fighting for some Nazi Ukrainian government trying to rule and oppress the people of Crimea and Donbas regions, not to mention to provoke a war with Russia.

You have to believe that if Trump had won the election fair and square as he should have, Vladimir Putin woulddn't be moving on the Ukraine....

Putin probably wants to thoroughly humiliate the Tan Messiah in his 3rd term. Little Vladimir knows the Potato-in-Chief isn't even in control of his breakfast menu. Having a complicated, rule by committee with the big eared dufus at the top is dangerous and Putin or Xi will probably try to take advantage of any hesitancy. If Putin rolls the armor after dropping tens of thousands of paratroops, Ukraine will be SOL.

 

[konradv]

Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia?
It is a bad idea for Washington to give its partners the impression that they have a blank to go to war and expect American forces to come to the rescue if the fighting goes poorly.​

Joe Biden’s Ukraine Policy: A Repeat of George W. Bush in Georgia? | The National Interest
5 Apr 2012 ~~ By Ted Alen Carpenter
Biden’s administration is going out of its way to assure Ukraine’s government that the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) have Kiev’s back in its growing confrontation with Russian-supported separatists and Russia itself. An April 2 White House press release confirmed that in his telephone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Joe Biden “affirmed the United States’ unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbas and Crimea.” Other high-level administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken have done the same.
Such confrontational verbal posturing would be troubling enough by itself. However, it’s taking place in the aftermath of new armed clashes between Ukrainian government and separatist forces. Until recently, a cease fire agreement negotiated in 2020 has held reasonably well, but tensions are now rising sharply. In response to the renewed fighting, Russia has moved additional forces to its border with Ukraine. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also issued a warning that if Kiev restarted the war in the Donbas region, that move would lead to Ukraine’s destruction.
Positions are hardening in other respects. Ukraine’s government announced that joint military exercises with Ukrainian and NATO troops likely would take place sometime this summer. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned that any deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine would force Russia to take “additional measures to ensure its own security.”
~Snip~
Yet the Biden administration seems intent to blunder onward. There is now the risk of two unfortunate outcomes from this approach: one bad, and one horrendous. The most likely outcome is a repetition of the Georgia episode, in which a country Washington encouraged to take a confrontational stand against Russia acts on an exaggerated assumption of U.S. backing, suffers a decisive military defeat and is humiliated, while U.S. leaders, for all their verbal posturing, prudently refrain from going to war. The United States would come away looking both feckless and irresponsible.
~Snip~
It would be the ultimate folly, since it could culminate in nuclear war, but given the intense level of hostility toward Moscow evident in the administration and much of Washington’s political elite, it is a possibility that can’t be ruled out.
The Biden administration urgently needs to rethink its Ukraine policy. Washington is issuing a security promise to Kiev that no sensible American should be willing to have the United States redeem.


Comment:
Why should NATO have any interest in helping the Kiev government installed by a coup expand the geographical territory it wants.
The people in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea have the same right to seize their areas and get assistance that the people who grabbed Kiev did.
No national interest for NATO and the USA necessitating an alliance that includes Germany to re-fight battles on WWII eastern front battlefields.
Meanwhile Chyna Joey Xi has embarked on emasculating and destroying our military while poking the Russian bear.
Like Obama, Joey Xi will probably send blankets and MRE's to arm the Ukraine....
If Putin attacks the Ukraine as he did in the "Annexation of the Crimea" Joey Xi will fold. Oh he may bluter and shake a sabre, but he will ceratinly fold....

Obama's Ukraine policy in shambles

Distracted by ISIL, frustrated by infighting in Kyiv, the administration makes little progress against Putin in Europe.

www.politico.com

**********​

Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all

Joe Biden has said that by holding up vital military aid to Ukraine, President Trump “used the power and resources of the United States to pressure a sovereign nation, a partner that is still under…

nypost.com

**********​

Obama's Ukraine policy in shambles

Distracted by ISIL, frustrated by infighting in Kyiv, the administration makes little progress against Putin in Europe.

www.politico.com

Trumpistas vs Neo-Cons vs RINOs! We got a 3-way civil war going on here?

 

[Penelope]

Volodymyr Zelensky
the man tramp was trying to BRIBE.

 

[Penelope]

Nope, the war pimps that run Washington and own idiots like Joe Biden could care less about democracy and the will of any free people.

So now Biden is willing to send US troops to die fighting for some Nazi Ukrainian government trying to rule and oppress the people of Crimea and Donbas regions, not to mention to provoke a war with Russia.

Tramp if the bribe would work out would of done the same thing.