Jewish Website Ask: Why do people hate the Jews?

[theDoctorisIn]

I am actually trying to help you, but instead of gratitude, you threaten me. You really need to understand that it is entirely your fault that nobody likes you. I have tried my entire life to like Jews, because I was aware of the horrors of the Holocaust. But I have never seen any Jew attempt to meet me even half way on this. All I see on this forum is Jews bashing Christianity and Catholicism from one end of this forum to the other, and if I start one thread fighting back, I am branded an anti-Semite. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

No one has "threatened" you, clown.

We don't want your "help". We don't care if you like us or not.

If we need to convince you to like us, that's your issue - not ours. I feel no desire to be nice to someone who already hates me.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

So really, Jews think it's okay to hate Christians and Catholics, but it's wrong if Christians or Catholics hate them.

You're projecting again.

 

[Blackrook]

It's a double-standard and you think you can just get away with shitting on Catholicism all day long because I can't retaliate on Judaism. Well, go fuck yourself.

 

[Blackrook]

I am actually trying to help you, but instead of gratitude, you threaten me. You really need to understand that it is entirely your fault that nobody likes you. I have tried my entire life to like Jews, because I was aware of the horrors of the Holocaust. But I have never seen any Jew attempt to meet me even half way on this. All I see on this forum is Jews bashing Christianity and Catholicism from one end of this forum to the other, and if I start one thread fighting back, I am branded an anti-Semite. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

No one has "threatened" you, clown.

We don't want your "help". We don't care if you like us or not.

If we need to convince you to like us, that's your issue - not ours. I feel no desire to be nice to someone who already hates me.

You should care. I tried really hard to like Jews, I wanted to be their friend, but all attempts to be friends with Jews are swatted away with contempt. You continue to see the Catholic Church as your enemy, and so long as you feel that way, I can no longer support you and your occupation of that land you stole from the Palestinians.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You're right that we don't give a shit if you like us or not. You're not the first to hate us, and I'm sure you won't be the last either.

But how does that justify your hatred of us, exactly?

I don't hate Jews, I just don't like most of the Jews I've met. There have been Jews I did like, and I've had Jewish friends. But with Jews, you always have to make allowances, saying to yourself, "He can't help himself acting that way, he is a Jew and doesn't know any better."

I'm saving this post for the next time you start acting like a sanctimonious asshole in between insulting me.

In fact, I think I might make that last line part of my signature, and put your anti-Semetism on display for everyone.

Yes, I would expect a Jew to do that. Which is why people don't like you, because you do stuff like that.

You are the gift that keeps on giving. It's truly amazing.

But let's make something clear - you don't speak for "people", you speak only for your twisted and hypocritical self.

And the fact that you don't like me is, from my perspective, perfectly fine. It just reveals your own hatred.

You keep throwing that "hatred" word out, and you and your fellow liberals have cheapened it to worthlessness since you use it every time you run out of logical arguments. I don't give a fuck what you say about me, your opinion means less to me than a phony $3 bill. You and your fellow Jews constantly bash Christianity and Catholicism on this forum, now I've given you a tiny taste back and you flip out and make threats against me. You have no business being a Mod, and I will complain about you to the Administrator.

You've made your hatred explicitly clear in this thread, and in a number of others.

You are welcome to complain about me to the Admin as much as you like. But I wouldn't hold out much hope.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It's a double-standard and you think you can just get away with shitting on Catholicism all day long because I can't retaliate on Judaism. Well, go fuck yourself.

You are welcome to produce a single post of mine where I've "shit" on Catholicism.

Until then, you're just proving my point.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I am actually trying to help you, but instead of gratitude, you threaten me. You really need to understand that it is entirely your fault that nobody likes you. I have tried my entire life to like Jews, because I was aware of the horrors of the Holocaust. But I have never seen any Jew attempt to meet me even half way on this. All I see on this forum is Jews bashing Christianity and Catholicism from one end of this forum to the other, and if I start one thread fighting back, I am branded an anti-Semite. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

No one has "threatened" you, clown.

We don't want your "help". We don't care if you like us or not.

If we need to convince you to like us, that's your issue - not ours. I feel no desire to be nice to someone who already hates me.

You should care. I tried really hard to like Jews, I wanted to be their friend, but all attempts to be friends with Jews are swatted away with contempt. You continue to see the Catholic Church as your enemy, and so long as you feel that way, I can no longer support you and your occupation of that land you stole from the Palestinians.

The Catholic Church is not my "enemy" - that's you projecting "enemy" status on to me to justify your hatred.

I'm not a Zionist, by the way. Would you like to try again?

 

[Blackrook]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

 

[Blackrook]

The Jews in Israel make no attempt whatsoever to decrease the hatred between them and the Palestinians. No effort at all.

 

[theliq]

Why don't you tell us why you don't like Jews, instead of playing guessing games?

I think it's because Jews don't even care if people like them. That's why.

You're right that we don't give a shit if you like us or not. You're not the first to hate us, and I'm sure you won't be the last either.

But how does that justify your hatred of us, exactly?

Hold on Doc,as a people you have Livid Hatred of Palestinians.......I believe you don't give a Shit about anything or anybody......Your inadequate response to the previous post clearly shows Your Massive Inferiority Complex,that is why you think that every one Hates Jews...THEY DON'T.....it is just your personal Inferiority that is being EXPOSED by non-other than YOURSELF.steve

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

The fact that you think Jews should kowtow to your sensibilities to earn the privilege of you liking us is what makes you hateful - not the fact that you correctly recognize that we don't care if you don't like us.

Have you met "most" Jews? Or did you mean "most of the (very few) Jews I've met, which I've decided to use to stereotype all Jews with"?

 

[Blackrook]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

The fact that you think Jews should kowtow to your sensibilities to earn the privilege of you liking us is what makes you hateful - not the fact that you correctly recognize that we don't care if you don't like us.

Have you met "most" Jews? Or did you mean "most of the (very few) Jews I've met, which I've decided to use to stereotype all Jews with"?

I've met lots of Jews.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Why don't you tell us why you don't like Jews, instead of playing guessing games?

I think it's because Jews don't even care if people like them. That's why.

You're right that we don't give a shit if you like us or not. You're not the first to hate us, and I'm sure you won't be the last either.

But how does that justify your hatred of us, exactly?

Hold on Doc,as a people you have Livid Hatred of Palestinians.......I believe you don't give a Shit about anything or anybody......Your inadequate response to the previous post clearly shows Your Massive Inferiority Complex,that is why you think that every one Hates Jews...THEY DON'T.....it is just your personal Inferiority that is being EXPOSED by non-other than YOURSELF.steve

Huh?

I don't hate Palestinians, nor do I think that everyone hates Jews. The vast majority of people that I've met in my life don't hate Jews.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

The fact that you think Jews should kowtow to your sensibilities to earn the privilege of you liking us is what makes you hateful - not the fact that you correctly recognize that we don't care if you don't like us.

Have you met "most" Jews? Or did you mean "most of the (very few) Jews I've met, which I've decided to use to stereotype all Jews with"?

I've met lots of Jews.

All 16 million?

 

[theliq]

Why don't you tell us why you don't like Jews, instead of playing guessing games?

I think it's because Jews don't even care if people like them. That's why.

You're right that we don't give a shit if you like us or not. You're not the first to hate us, and I'm sure you won't be the last either.

But how does that justify your hatred of us, exactly?

Hold on Doc,as a people you have Livid Hatred of Palestinians.......I believe you don't give a Shit about anything or anybody......Your inadequate response to the previous post clearly shows Your Massive Inferiority Complex,that is why you think that every one Hates Jews...THEY DON'T.....it is just your personal Inferiority that is being EXPOSED by non-other than YOURSELF.steve

Huh?

I don't hate Palestinians, nor do I think that everyone hates Jews. The vast majority of people that I've met in my life don't hate Jews.

Well why are you giving the impression of the reverse attitude then.....???steve.....Rook was just giving his opinion

 

[theliq]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

The fact that you think Jews should kowtow to your sensibilities to earn the privilege of you liking us is what makes you hateful - not the fact that you correctly recognize that we don't care if you don't like us.

Have you met "most" Jews? Or did you mean "most of the (very few) Jews I've met, which I've decided to use to stereotype all Jews with"?

I've met lots of Jews.

All 16 million?

Don't be ridiculous Doc,steve

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Why don't you tell us why you don't like Jews, instead of playing guessing games?

I think it's because Jews don't even care if people like them. That's why.

You're right that we don't give a shit if you like us or not. You're not the first to hate us, and I'm sure you won't be the last either.

But how does that justify your hatred of us, exactly?

Hold on Doc,as a people you have Livid Hatred of Palestinians.......I believe you don't give a Shit about anything or anybody......Your inadequate response to the previous post clearly shows Your Massive Inferiority Complex,that is why you think that every one Hates Jews...THEY DON'T.....it is just your personal Inferiority that is being EXPOSED by non-other than YOURSELF.steve

Huh?

I don't hate Palestinians, nor do I think that everyone hates Jews. The vast majority of people that I've met in my life don't hate Jews.

Well why are you giving the impression of the reverse attitude then.....???steve.....Rook was just giving his opinion

How have I given "the impression of the reverse attitude"?

I think you made that part up in your head.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Well, you admitted right off the bat that you don't give a damn if I like you, thus proving that what I said was true, that you don't give a damn.

So how is it "hateful" to tell you what you admitted was true?

Most Jews go about life doing what they please, saying what they please, without any forethought about how people will react, completely indifferent to whether they are hurting the feelings of others, or pissing them off.

You admit that you yourself act this way.

I also act this way myself, perhaps because I am half-Irish, and there's a lot of people who hate the Irish too.

But it's not "hateful" to tell you the truth, which you admitted to.

The fact that you think Jews should kowtow to your sensibilities to earn the privilege of you liking us is what makes you hateful - not the fact that you correctly recognize that we don't care if you don't like us.

Have you met "most" Jews? Or did you mean "most of the (very few) Jews I've met, which I've decided to use to stereotype all Jews with"?

I've met lots of Jews.

All 16 million?

Don't be ridiculous Doc,steve

Who is "Steve"?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why Do People Hate The Jews?

It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying -- "If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.")

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries.

Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."
2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."
3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."
4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."
5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)
6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.
   
2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.
   
3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."
   
4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.
   
5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."
   
6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

****
This Jewish website asks why (many) people hate Jews, but none of the answers they give are even close to the right answer.

So I'm going to throw it out there to all forum Jews, why do you think (many) people hate the Jews?

My guess is, none of you will know the answer to this question.

In my own studies of history I have also wondered the same thing.

After all, nobody hates Hindus. Nobody hates Buddhists either.

My own conclusions were as follows.

Rebellion -- the Romans persecuted the Jews at Jerusalem because they rebelled.

Superstition -- the Europeans persecuted the Jews because the Europeans thought God was punishing the Europeans over the Jews anytime there was a plague or famine etc.

Envy -- the European persecuted the Jews because they were envious of their wealth from the banking and the jewelry industries.

Greed -- the European kings wanted to confiscate the Jews' wealth.

Bureaucracy -- Adolf claimed that during WW1 there was a disproportionate amount of Jews working behind the lines and not at the front.

Monopoly -- Adolf claimed that the Jews were controlling unions and banking.

This is comprehensively ignorant and wrong.

Jews are just as European as ‘Europeans’; in fact, there were Jews in Europe before Christians.

European Christians persecuted European Jews.

Part of that persecution was to prohibit Jews from owning land in an effort to destroy them.

In order to survive Jews entered into professions that didn’t require the ownership of land.

Whatever Christians might perceive to be ‘Jewish’ is the consequence of the persecution of Jews by Christians – hence the idiocy of anti-Semitism.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Why Do People Hate The Jews?

It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying -- "If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.")

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries.

Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."
2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."
3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."
4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."
5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)
6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.
   
2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.
   
3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."
   
4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.
   
5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."
   
6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

****
This Jewish website asks why (many) people hate Jews, but none of the answers they give are even close to the right answer.

So I'm going to throw it out there to all forum Jews, why do you think (many) people hate the Jews?

My guess is, none of you will know the answer to this question.

In my own studies of history I have also wondered the same thing.

After all, nobody hates Hindus. Nobody hates Buddhists either.

My own conclusions were as follows.

Rebellion -- the Romans persecuted the Jews at Jerusalem because they rebelled.

Superstition -- the Europeans persecuted the Jews because the Europeans thought God was punishing the Europeans over the Jews anytime there was a plague or famine etc.

Envy -- the European persecuted the Jews because they were envious of their wealth from the banking and the jewelry industries.

Greed -- the European kings wanted to confiscate the Jews' wealth.

Bureaucracy -- Adolf claimed that during WW1 there was a disproportionate amount of Jews working behind the lines and not at the front.

Monopoly -- Adolf claimed that the Jews were controlling unions and banking.

Nobody hates Hindus or Buddhists?

You don't know much about Chinese or Indian history, do you?