Mertex
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So Esmeralda negs me, as if that's going to stop me from stating my views. Not surprising, liberals will always try to silence their opposition when they are proven wrong. The funny thing is that I wasn't disagreeing with her that people should help each other, only that it should not be forced.
That is the difference between a Christian and a Marxist, but when you expose them for trying to use Jesus to promote their communist views, they react with hostility and slander (like Mertex assigning positions you have never taken). But that's the way they operate.
You are full of beans. You don't even know the Bible, claiming that Jesus created the fish at the time.....both times that he fed people with fish, the fish were already there. So, don't try to act so knowledgeable about the Bible and then post some idiotic thing that isn't true.
And yes, God created everything, and Jesus is God, so don't try to come back and claim that is what you meant. You said He didn't take fish from someone to give to others, but that is what He did.
S.J. No one is arguing that Jesus wants us to share, and in that respect, Esmeralda was right. But she was wrong about the lesson in Jesus feeding the masses. It was not about sharing the fish (there were not fish to share). He CREATED the fish, and the lesson was about faith in HIM to provide for their needs. Then she quoted Karl Marx to make her case, as if Jesus would have agreed with Karl Marx and his communist philosophy. Marx preached "forced redistribution", Jesus did not.
Mathew 14: 13-21
13 When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by boat privately to a solitary place. Hearing of this, the crowds followed him on foot from the towns. 14 When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them and healed their sick.
15 As evening approached, the disciples came to him and said, This is a remote place, and its already getting late. Send the crowds away, so they can go to the villages and buy themselves some food.
16 Jesus replied, They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.
17 We have here only five loaves of bread and two fish, they answered.
18 Bring them here to me, he said. 19 And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. Afterward he did the same with the fish. And they all ate as much as they wanted.
John
5 Jesus soon saw a huge crowd of people coming to look for him. Turning to Philip, he asked, "Where can we buy bread to feed all these people?" 6 He was testing Philip, for he already knew what he was going to do.
7 Philip replied, "Even if we worked for months, we wouldn't have enough money to feed them!"
8 Then Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, spoke up. 9 "There's a young boy here with five barley loaves and two fish. But what good is that with this huge crowd?"
10 "Tell everyone to sit down," Jesus said. So they all sat down on the grassy slopes. (The men alone numbered about 5,000.) 11 Then Jesus took the loaves, gave thanks to God, and distributed them to the people.