Jesus believed in sharing the wealth.

[Freewill]

Not wishing to argue but what religion teaches that people shouldn't expect anything in return? Sounds like some people are trying to force their religion, or at least what they think is religion, onto others.

The Bible teaches otherwise:

The Bible on giving to random beggars lies within the verse of 2 Thessalonians 3


For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”

2 Corinthians 9:6[12] where a person who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly.

In 1 Timothy 6:18-19[10], the rewards that are spoken of consist of heavenly treasure.

8.2 Corinthians 9:10-11 (NIV)

10Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.

10.1 Timothy 6:18-19(NIV)

18Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. 19In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.

11.Proverbs 11:24-25 (NIV)

24 One man gives freely, yet gains even more;
another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.

25 A generous man will prosper;
he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.

12.2 Corinthians 9:6 (NIV)

6Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously

4.Matthew 25:35-45 (NIV)

35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

 

[Freewill]

love how this topic puts the dyed in wool Conservative's on the defense.

that alone says it all.

Who is on defensive? Conservatives are more generous then liberals that is well known.

We now have liberals quoting, or pretending to quote, Jesus, that in itself is a step in the right direction I hope it takes hold.

 

[there4eyeM]

To state it clearly, if one believes in Jesus, one believes Jesus is living. One believes one can have communion with Jesus. Therefore, it suffices to ask Jesus directly.
So, believers, ask and see what answer you get. It is useless to ask anyone else.
For those who do not believe, all that exists are the recorded texts and the questions surrounding them. Those words clearly demonstrate care and generosity.

 

[Katzndogz]

I never really understood that one, I was stuck on "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"

Thanks for being the one person who did not just scroll over it and ignore it.

There are numerous interpretations that can be made from it. But at face value, one can interpret it that those who do the best they can with what they have can expect to prosper. And those who expect to prosper while doing little or nothing with what they are given will not prosper so much, if at all. And it should at least bring into question any notion that what Jesus preached was sociial welfare rather than individual responsibility.

I think he preached a little of both.

What Jesus meant had nothing to do with taxes but with worship. He was telling the people not to worship Caesar.

 

[Warrior102]

JESUS BELIEVED IN SHARING THE WEALTH.
THE CHRISTIAN’S GOD.

I believe Obama is following the example of Jesus when he said feed the poor, Gleaning in he NT and Tithes. Every society in the human world believe in sharing the wealth. Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor....He fed a multitude with 5 loaves and 2 fish and told them to give the surplus to the poor. He said pay your taxes. If that is not sharing the wealth, what is?
Plus GOD provided manna for the Jews in the wilderness. The Egyptians shared their store house of grain doing 7 lean year famine. The Christian bible teaches sharing the wealth.
As soon as Obama took office, sharing the wealth was communist and socialist and an evil thing as stealing and thief from those that have.
Mormon’s Bishop’s Storehouse it the largest example of sharing the wealth. After the U.S. Government.

PS.
Anytime the Government forces me to have a child that I cannot afford, they damn well be willing to take care of it.

Jesus didn't have any material wealth, you stupid dumb fuck. He could of - but he lived the life of a poor man with no possessions.

The man who could have had ANYTHING he desired was born in a manger and ate locusts. There was a reason for all of this.

Look it the fuck up.

Moron.

 

[Katzndogz]

Jesus was probably smart, he had nothing the government could take.

There is nothing in Christianity that legitimizes theft no matter who is doing it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Jesus didnt want the Romans to share your wealth for you.

Exactly. Jesus said nothing about Caesar (the Roman Govt.) doing all of the redistribution. Liberals who worship the State invoke Jesus only as an attempt to use Christian rules against Christians.

This is one of the primary radical tactics straight out of Alinsky who was an atheist.

 

[Papageorgio]

Republicans don't believe in Jesus.

They believe in mammon.

I don't believe in Democrats.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Jesus was probably smart, he had nothing the government could take.

There is nothing in Christianity that legitimizes theft no matter who is doing it.

Remember the 8th Commandment...

Thou shalt not steal..

 

[Freewill]

JESUS BELIEVED IN SHARING THE WEALTH.
THE CHRISTIAN’S GOD.

I believe Obama is following the example of Jesus when he said feed the poor, Gleaning in he NT and Tithes. Every society in the human world believe in sharing the wealth. Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor....He fed a multitude with 5 loaves and 2 fish and told them to give the surplus to the poor. He said pay your taxes. If that is not sharing the wealth, what is?
Plus GOD provided manna for the Jews in the wilderness. The Egyptians shared their store house of grain doing 7 lean year famine. The Christian bible teaches sharing the wealth.
As soon as Obama took office, sharing the wealth was communist and socialist and an evil thing as stealing and thief from those that have.
Mormon’s Bishop’s Storehouse it the largest example of sharing the wealth. After the U.S. Government.

PS.
Anytime the Government forces me to have a child that I cannot afford, they damn well be willing to take care of it.

Jesus didn't have any material wealth, you stupid dumb fuck. He could of - but he lived the life of a poor man with no possessions.

The man who could have had ANYTHING he desired was born in a manger and ate locusts. There was a reason for all of this.

Look it the fuck up.

Moron.

Didn't Jesus have everything?

 

[there4eyeM]

Taxation without representation may be theft. When it is your Congress, there is another word for it; democracy. If voters don't like it, it can be changed.

 

[Foxfyre]

I never really understood that one, I was stuck on "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"

Thanks for being the one person who did not just scroll over it and ignore it.

There are numerous interpretations that can be made from it. But at face value, one can interpret it that those who do the best they can with what they have can expect to prosper. And those who expect to prosper while doing little or nothing with what they are given will not prosper so much, if at all. And it should at least bring into question any notion that what Jesus preached was sociial welfare rather than individual responsibility.

I think he preached a little of both.

No, I don't think he did. I think he saw charity as the responsibility of each individual, not the collective. There is much in the Old Testament that points to the collective - shared guilt, shared blessings. And in Matthew 5:45, Jesus acknowledged that concept as "the rain falls on the just and the unjust. . . ." meaning that we share in blessings whether we have earned them or not and we share in the consequences of evil whether we participated in that or not. But Jesus was all about steering the minds and hearts of the people to a new way of thinking, a new personal responsibility, the idea that each of us is individually and personally loved by God separate from the collective.

Whatever Jesus was, he was no socialist. And he did not look to government to fix our problems.

 

[Desperado]

Jesus believed in sharing the wealth, Obama on the other hand has no problems with sharing other people's wealth. Yet when it comes to his own family and sharing his wealth, that is a different story. Not exactly leading by example.

One of Obama’s favorite phrases comes right out of the Bible: “We are our brother’s keeper.” Yet he has not contributed a penny to help his own brother. And evidently George does not believe, even in times of emergency, that he can turn to his brother in the White House for help.

Read more: How I became George Obama's 'brother' | Fox News

 

[kaz]

Taxation without representation may be theft. When it is your Congress, there is another word for it; democracy. If voters don't like it, it can be changed.

Democracy is merely the oppression of the majority. Which is why we aren't one, we're a Republic with a Federal government. Republic and Federal are two terms you should look up in your learning the history of our country, which is what you should do before you post again on a topic of which you have zero knowledge. A sad thing to have when we're talking about the government of our own freaking country.

 

[Conservative]

LOL. Not even midnight yet, and note the number of 'Conservatives' denying the message of Christ at the top of their voices.

you wouldn't recognize the message of Christ if He gave it to you in person.

 

[Againsheila]

Thanks for being the one person who did not just scroll over it and ignore it.

There are numerous interpretations that can be made from it. But at face value, one can interpret it that those who do the best they can with what they have can expect to prosper. And those who expect to prosper while doing little or nothing with what they are given will not prosper so much, if at all. And it should at least bring into question any notion that what Jesus preached was sociial welfare rather than individual responsibility.

I think he preached a little of both.

What Jesus meant had nothing to do with taxes but with worship. He was telling the people not to worship Caesar.

And here I thought he was telling them not to worship money.....

 

[kaz]

And here I thought he was telling them not to worship money.....

Democrats want the fed to control the money supply, governments to tax and redistribute it according to Democratic social policy and government to regulate how companies and people spend the money they have left.

I wouldn't talk about anyone else worshiping money until you get a grip on your own issue with it.

 

[Desperado]

The bottom line is even if Jesus believed in sharing the wealth, he wanted individuals to follow his belief. I doubt that he would have wanted the government to be his enforcer, since Jesus did believe that people have a "Free Will".

 

[kaz]

The bottom line is even if Jesus believed in sharing the wealth, he wanted individuals to follow his belief. I doubt that he would have wanted the government to be his enforcer, since Jesus did believe that people have a "Free Will".

Exactly. There is no credit in charity which isn't by choice.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think he preached a little of both.

What Jesus meant had nothing to do with taxes but with worship. He was telling the people not to worship Caesar.

And here I thought he was telling them not to worship money.....

I think he was telling them not to allow love or addiction to money to crowd out what needs to be the most important aspect of their lives. Again Jesus showed no contempt for the rich. Most of his rich friends he enjoyed a great deal. In his parables, Jesus assigned no responsibility to the employer to be generous with nonproductive employees, and was very stern with the employee who whined that somebody else made more than he did.

Jesus was very big on common sense, individual responsiblity, to accept what one agrees to work for, just rewards for those who were exemplary stewards of what was entrusted to them. And while he praised those who gave from the heart, had special compassion for the poor, sick, imprisoned and the children, there is no indication that he saw government as a solution for anything.

He did say that those who had much, much would be expected. But there is no indication that it was anybody's responsiblity to do what was expected other than the owner of the property.