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Sorry, I thought you were actually going to discuss a current social phenomena, should have known better.
We are discussing it. You can listen to any interview with a "Herbivore Man" or a caucasian MGTOW and they'll tell it's a direct result of feminism.
Even 18% of the the male population is nothing to sneeze at. Never mind 40%+
Have you see the "yes means yes" law in california, where a man now needs to obtain continuous verbal consent from a woman in order to keep fucking her?
Yes it is, child birth is a dangerous and debilitating thing for a woman, only a screwed-up virgin, celibate pope would think otherwise. Before contraception, sex was a scary thing for a woman to be torn between satisfying her man and the knowledge that a sixth pregnancy could kill her.Child birth is bondage? Do you people have any idea how sick and depraved you are?Freeing women from the bondage of childbirth is the greatest achivement of science in the later half of the 20th century and probably prevented WWIII.Japan is screwed up and dying mostly because they do not allow enough immigration to make up for their low birth rate. Opting out of breeding is a visible social phenomena in Japan but all Western nations are experiencing the same rapidly aging native population that did not have enough kids to replace themselves, even us.
The evils of contraception. And only the Catholic Church takes a stand against it these days. History will prove us wise.
Yes it is, child birth is a dangerous and debilitating thing for a woman, only a screwed-up virgin, celibate pope would think otherwise. Before contraception, sex was a scary thing for a woman to be torn between satisfying her man and the knowledge that a sixth pregnancy could kill her.Child birth is bondage? Do you people have any idea how sick and depraved you are?Freeing women from the bondage of childbirth is the greatest achivement of science in the later half of the 20th century and probably prevented WWIII.Japan is screwed up and dying mostly because they do not allow enough immigration to make up for their low birth rate. Opting out of breeding is a visible social phenomena in Japan but all Western nations are experiencing the same rapidly aging native population that did not have enough kids to replace themselves, even us.
The evils of contraception. And only the Catholic Church takes a stand against it these days. History will prove us wise.
Your personal decisions are your own, if you want to have a houseful then that is your business. I do not want to get into the tired old contraception argument with a militant catholic as I never attack anyone for their personal faith. However, when that personal faith translates into religious authority making such decisions for people as the Catholic church is in the habit of doing in poor catholic majority countries then I have a problem. Christianity is supposed to be about free will, it's why most of the world opted against Catholicism and became protestant.Yes it is, child birth is a dangerous and debilitating thing for a woman, only a screwed-up virgin, celibate pope would think otherwise. Before contraception, sex was a scary thing for a woman to be torn between satisfying her man and the knowledge that a sixth pregnancy could kill her.Child birth is bondage? Do you people have any idea how sick and depraved you are?Freeing women from the bondage of childbirth is the greatest achivement of science in the later half of the 20th century and probably prevented WWIII.Japan is screwed up and dying mostly because they do not allow enough immigration to make up for their low birth rate. Opting out of breeding is a visible social phenomena in Japan but all Western nations are experiencing the same rapidly aging native population that did not have enough kids to replace themselves, even us.
The evils of contraception. And only the Catholic Church takes a stand against it these days. History will prove us wise.
You're sick. I can't even argue with the ravings of a sick, depraved person who thinks that childbirth is an affliction that needs to be avoided. "Satisfying her man?" Having children and the number of children is decided by both spouses. Women aren't slaves living in seraglios, they are intelligent enough to make their own decisions. We have 4 children. We would have even more if medical complications hadn't made that impossible. We both decided on a large family. That's what real equality is, not the pandering feminist bullshit you're espousing.
The term "herbivore men" (soushoku danshi, 草食男子) appeared in 2009 or thereabouts. It is sometimes contrasted with "carnivore women".
I think the "abstains from sex" bit might be overstated...kinda hard to suppress a primal urge, and of course the Japanese famously have their public face (tatemae) and their private lives (honne)....
The "herbivore men" may not be so different from Americans, Swedes etc who drop out of the rat race to live on a remote homestead or small farm, reading and emulating Thoreau, Aldo Leopold and Wendell Berry.....
The "herbivores" part is real.
Japan panics about the rise of herbivores mdash young men who shun sex don t spend money and like taking walks.
The "feminazi" stuff, that's 2A's take on it. Who knew that Rome had feminazi statutes? The things we learn here.
It's even simpler than that, prostitutes are quasi-legal and relatively cheap and there is no longer a strong social pressure to marry and reproduce. Japan suffered for centuries under an incredibly strict code of arranged marriage and dowry. Practicality and frugality has replaced the old ways, as expensive as things are in Japan it is cheaper to buy all the sex anyone could want than to marry.The "herbivores" part is real.
Japan panics about the rise of herbivores mdash young men who shun sex don t spend money and like taking walks.
The "feminazi" stuff, that's 2A's take on it. Who knew that Rome had feminazi statutes? The things we learn here.
Would care to explain why Roman men started going celibate and forsaking marriage?
I think this thread rattles your communist bones, because you know you that it's dissatisfied and oppressed MEN that overturn tyrannies.
40% of Japanese men.
What happens when it hits 75%? Something tells me the "caveman instincts" are going to overcome them and they'll tear the whole government down and restore the natural order.
Remember, they aren't choosing this lifestyle because it's actually enjoyable. It's because the alternative is INTOLERABLE. What happens when a bunch of men feel that their pursuit of happiness has become intolerable?
It's even simpler than that, prostitutes are quasi-legal and relatively cheap and there is no longer a strong social pressure to marry and reproduce. Japan suffered for centuries under an incredibly strict code of arranged marriage and dowry. Practicality and frugality has replaced the old ways, as expensive as things are in Japan it is cheaper to buy all the sex anyone could want than to marry.The "herbivores" part is real.
Japan panics about the rise of herbivores mdash young men who shun sex don t spend money and like taking walks.
The "feminazi" stuff, that's 2A's take on it. Who knew that Rome had feminazi statutes? The things we learn here.
Would care to explain why Roman men started going celibate and forsaking marriage?
I think this thread rattles your communist bones, because you know you that it's dissatisfied and oppressed MEN that overturn tyrannies.
40% of Japanese men.
What happens when it hits 75%? Something tells me the "caveman instincts" are going to overcome them and they'll tear the whole government down and restore the natural order.
Remember, they aren't choosing this lifestyle because it's actually enjoyable. It's because the alternative is INTOLERABLE. What happens when a bunch of men feel that their pursuit of happiness has become intolerable?
He hasn't found the right one yet. Have some faith, friend.No man wishes to be a slave. No self-respecting man would enter into a modern marriage contract. Divorce is a doom-hammer that is not wielded by men, but their spouses. We know what happens when one party wields a monopoly of power.
OK, we all understand that you are afraid of women. Take it up with your shrink.
He hasn't found the right one yet. Have some faith, friend.No man wishes to be a slave. No self-respecting man would enter into a modern marriage contract. Divorce is a doom-hammer that is not wielded by men, but their spouses. We know what happens when one party wields a monopoly of power.
OK, we all understand that you are afraid of women. Take it up with your shrink.
Interesting OP. I was married for 10 years. I enjoyed the marriage and didn't consciously want to break up, but in hindsight I see the many ways I sabotaged the relationship.
Then I dated a series of women even more crazy than myself.
I've always liked being me. I've never placed the responsibility of making me happy on someone else. The women I've been with tend to do exactly that.
Or, it will be a beautiful day, we've got the day off, we're healthy, we're doing something fun, but the woman is upset because I didn't fold my laundry or I paid a bill 2 days late, and she can't let it go. It's like, really? You're going to waste your life and try to bum me out by worrying about little stuff like that?
I'm spending my 40s as an herbivore man. I might change my mind when I hit 50, but life is so beautifully simple now. I don't have to negotiate every action I take. I don't have to put up with constant emotional blackmail.
Almost everyone I know in a relationship is constantly fighting. They tear each other down. I'm co-hosting a radio show with my friend. We did our first show on Tuesday. We get back to his place, and his wife gives us a negative review. I thought it went great, but even if I didn't, I'm going to accentuate the positives before I say what I didn't like. Everyone I've talked to liked it, except for the wife who had nothing encouraging to say.
It's not about finding the right one. That's what you're not seeing. Getting married is giving your wife the doom-hammer. Even if she was the "right one" before you got married, that obscene power shift will most likely change her for the worse, as proven in countless scientific studies.
Non-married cohabiting couples like myself (which makes me a level 1 MGTOW) get in every day. Married couples get it on once a week on average. Sometimes only once a month. If a man wants to end the sexlessness, he must give her half his property and income and has limited access to his children.
You see, I have known nothing but misery at the hands of dependent women, family or girlfriend. And only by abandoning them/throwing them out the door, have I ever been able to regain ANY rights back from them. They consider you their MULE to fund their lifestyle.
You give them the Earth, but they demand the Moon and the Stars. Adam was content in the Garden of Eden, but Eve craved more.
The OP said that.Why no tax on single women? Why did Rome and Japan not consider this?
Japan is screwed up and dying mostly because they do not allow enough immigration to make up for their low birth rate. Opting out of breeding is a visible social phenomena in Japan but all Western nations are experiencing the same rapidly aging native population that did not have enough kids to replace themselves, even us.
The evils of contraception. And only the Catholic Church takes a stand against it these days. History will prove us wise.
I didn't realize Japan had such a large victim class.More than 1/3 (over 40%) of Japan's male population have voluntarily become "Herbivore Men." This means they abandon women altogether, forsaking all future relationships, most importantly marriage and children. The term "herbivore" is a Japanese reference to men that "will eat grass alongside women." Although it was initially laughed off by Japanese women and their government as a trend that could never grow or even sustain itself for long (because all those sex crazed rapists...men...can't withold themselves from sex), it turned out they were wrong. In fact very wrong.
The number of men that have decided to "opt-out" or "unplug from the matrix" in Japan has grown from 18% over 40% in less than two years. These men are not gay, and even the suggestion would be laughable since 40% of male population is certainly not going to be gay.
The Japanese herbivore culture is now coming to Caucasian nations as well, in America, Canada and the UK they go by the name MGTOW's (Men Going Their Own Way). These aren't a bunch of faggots who never had a girlfriend. They are actually men who have had several relationships in the past (or more) and can no longer tolerate the feminist bullshit plaguing modern women.
However, back to Japan. Instead of reversing the wrongs that led to their population and GDP decline by having over 40% of their male population opt-out of society, and after their shame-proganda backfired against Herbivores, by in fact producing more of them, the Women of Japan and their Daddy Government (whose running out of taxes) have decided to FORCE men into marriage and relationships by considering a Bachelor Tax.
Such was the way of ancient Rome when feminazi statutes came into effect as well. Rome imposed a massive bachelor tax that drove many men out of Roman provinces, who then took their knowledge of smithing and weapon-making to barbarian cultures.
No man wishes to be a slave. No self-respecting man would enter into a modern marriage contract. Divorce is a doom-hammer that is not wielded by men, but their spouses. We know what happens when one party wields a monopoly of power.
Question: Why not impose a Bacheleorette Tax on Women instead in Japan?
A bachelor tax not so unlikely
n theory, the tax applied to both men and women (regardless of their marital status) but in practicality, the tax was paid overwhelmingly by men. This is also clear due to the fact that everyone – men and women – referred to this tax in the common lexicon as taxa pe sulă (literally the tax on the dick).
The reasons for this had a lot to do with biology and with inherent gynocentrism. A woman could get a certificate of infertility fairly easy (even if she was fertile) and that certificate would exempt her from being subjected to this tax. Like in all communist countries, the doctors were State functionaries and were as corrupt as any other functionary in that era so for a few hundred lei or for a few packs of Kent (that cigarette brand was a common currency for many bribes) a doctor would write almost anything you needed on a certificate, as long as it was likely to be true. And given the poor state of the general health following the draconic rationalization plan implemented in 1981, it was quite likely for a woman to be infertile for a certain period of time. Also, due to gynocentrism, a doctor was more likely to accept to lie in a certificate when a woman requested it than when a man did the same.
The tax was levied independent of marital status. Fertile men married to infertile women would routinely be subjected to the celibacy tax. Divorce was, in theory, an option, but there were disincentives for divorce – like the danger of being relegated to a lower paid job for no longer being “morally reliable”.[5]
