Its time to phase out S.S. and medicare

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    I generally feel that the left are going to point out that it seem 'hypocritical' to take on healthcare but not these other programs. We should just take that argument away from them and attempt to remove these from the public dole. Don't force politicians to take this on but work on the local level to convince people to knock these down. Stay in young urban areas where there are no old people who will naturally object. Even if we don't succeed at least we can say that it is them that stands in our way of taking these down and not our selective choice over which we hate more.
     
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    Please get the republicans to run on that platform.
     
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    I agree.

    I don't think we should take it away from the people who have already paid into it (IT IS THEIR MONEY); however, set up a certain phase out date like "If you were born after January 1, ####..." type of thing.
     
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    Yes. It would not seem humane or fair since a lot of retirees made plans on that but a phase out would be better. Perhaps the government can sell social security bonds that we buy voluntarily much like treasury bonds are sold. These can be backed up by gold or silver so that they don't lose their value in a stock market crash.
     
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    I'm not asking since that would be suicide. A better strategy is to convince people on the ground and eventually the republicrat party will follow.
     
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    get convincing
     
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    No, it's time to put our houses in order.
     
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    I see the rumors of your demise were greatly exaggerated.

    Why do you even bother to post? Your credibility is in the toilet.
     
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    The current folks aged 40 - 55 have allowed the government to commit these actions which have resulted in the deficit. Unless we are okay with passing it along to future generations, we need to take responsibility. Up the retirement age to 75. Pass a Constitutional amendment mandating this money (SS tax) be used for deficit reduction only. Once paid back, a much reduced payout can be reinstituted. Social Security funds may not be used for any other purpose than SS payouts after that point.
     
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    Ummm why are you only blaming a certain segment of the voters?

    You do realize other groups vote too right?
     

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