It's Christian persecution!

Max Power said:
I'm sure that cable packages will still be around, at the same rates.

If you only purchase a handful of channels, I'm sure it will be cheaper than taking the whole lot... you'll be paying more per channel, but less overall (and only getting what you want).

Yeah. So you lefty head in sand types can be sure to leave out the channels which cause you to question your world view. How enlightened.
 
Max Power said:
I'm sure that cable packages will still be around, at the same rates.

If you only purchase a handful of channels, I'm sure it will be cheaper than taking the whole lot... you'll be paying more per channel, but less overall (and only getting what you want).
I tend to agree. I think the public is tired of buying what they don’t want.
If the cable industry doesn’t flex, they’ll be outta business.
 
Mr. P said:
I tend to agree. I think the public is tired of buying what they don’t want.
If the cable industry doesn’t flex, they’ll be outta business.

I don't think so. They've got most people by the short hair. If you want to watch something other than the local broadcast, ABC, NBC, CBS, and their incredibly STUPID sitcom lineups, you pay.

I still think that no matter how they rearrange their programming, they're NOT going to take a CUT in revenue. They'll shuffle it so that you'll still be paying top dollar, even if you're not getting a bunch of channels you don't want.
 
Pale Rider said:
I don't think so. They've got most people by the short hair. If you want to watch something other than the local broadcast, ABC, NBC, CBS, and their incredibly STUPID sitcom lineups, you pay.

I still think that no matter how they rearrange their programming, they're NOT going to take a CUT in revenue. They'll shuffle it so that you'll still be paying top dollar, even if you're not getting a bunch of channels you don't want.
Here's a prediction.... eventually cable TV may become obsolete....

you'll simply DOWNLOAD the shows, documentaries that you want to watch and just pay a flat fee for each, just like iTunes....

they're already doing it.... you can download episodes of Law & Order and other shows for $1.99 an episode.... if it catches on, the price is sure to go down....
 
KarlMarx said:
Here's a prediction.... eventually cable TV may become obsolete....

you'll simply DOWNLOAD the shows, documentaries that you want to watch and just pay a flat fee for each, just like iTunes....

they're already doing it.... you can download episodes of Law & Order and other shows for $1.99 an episode.... if it catches on, the price is sure to go down....
It's true. You can watch most of Comedy Central's lineup in clips on demand, for free, at their website.
 
KarlMarx said:
Here's a prediction.... eventually cable TV may become obsolete....

you'll simply DOWNLOAD the shows, documentaries that you want to watch and just pay a flat fee for each, just like iTunes....

they're already doing it.... you can download episodes of Law & Order and other shows for $1.99 an episode.... if it catches on, the price is sure to go down....

So if watch only one show, for one hour, once a day it will cost me $60 dollars a month?
:eek:
 
and it goes both ways. (like hagbard. go dawgs, woof woof)


U.S. cable firms to create 'family friendly' packages


Two large U.S. cable companies and several smaller ones have bowed to pressure to create "family friendly" cable packages.

Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Cable, two of the biggest U.S. cable companies, are among those that have pledged to offer a "family choice" tier beginning next spring.

The cable industry has been under pressure because of the amount of sex and violence on television, even in prime time when programming is supposed to be suitable for families.

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chair Kevin Martin last week castigated cable providers for the amount of indecency on television. He urged them to give parents a choice that would not expose their children to inappropriate images.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/12/12/family-friendly-051212.html
 
Max Power said:
And legislation is in order to make it so subscribers are not contractually bound to recieve all the channels.

Why can't these people be happy reaching only those who want to be reached?


but apparently don't understand. The evangelistic Christian, and all Christians for that matter, are charged with the task of telling others in the world of the "Good News" of the birth of Christ, his crucifixion and resurrection, and the ultimate salvation of the individual and mankind.

Look, I think folks should be allowed to pick and choose those cable stations they want to watch. In my part of the country there are plenty of broadcast stations that carry evangelistic programming that would be included in a person's local broadcast stations on cable. (Or so I've been told?)

Having said that I find it somewhat amusing how sensitive agnostics and athiests are to religious programming. What's the matter? Fear of conversion? hehehehhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
Powerman said:
Because they know hardly anyone would watch the shit. Only time I watch it is for a good laugh. They have a ton of those channels here in BR.

LOL it's always bad soaps and variety shows..
 
KarlMarx said:
Good for you Bully that defaming Buddhists isn't popular.....

I could take some swipes at the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who built a financial empire on Transcendental Meditation.... he had even the Beatles under his spell, until Lennon and the others saw him for what he was... "a fake and a womanizer"....

I suppose I could take a swipe at the Dalai Lama, too, but he seems too honest a man, but I could be wrong. I understand that he seems to lead a somewhat simple life. I don't see photos of him cavorting with women or living it up at some Hollywood event. I feel that his country, Tibet, was wrongly confiscated by the Rat Fink Chinese Commies.... But, his followers, e.g. Tina Turner, Richard Geer and a lot of Hollywood lead much less than saintly lives. They live in posh mansions, lead an "eat drink and be merry" lifestyle.... have slept with more people than I will in twenty lifetimes... yes, they're a shining example of what it means to be Buddhist. Strange though, not a word about that from you!

I guess what I'm about to say amounts to an "ad hominem" attack, but enough is enough already....

It really stinks that you throw rocks at the "Religious (read "Christian") Right" as often as you'd like and you're not an adherent of the religion, you claim to be Buddhist.... what's with that? I thought Buddhism was a religion of compassion or is it that you follow the Bullypulpit Sect of Buddhism? If that's the case, then who are you to judge those you see as being hypocritical? Perhaps you ought to look at what is going on in your house before telling us what's wrong in ours!

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was, nominally, Hindu. And Buddhism has had its share of charlatans and fakirs, just like any other religion. Which highlights the real issue...More often than not, its the practitioners of a given religion that drag it through the mud in the name of their favorite deity, rather than doctrine.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Yeah. So you lefty head in sand types can be sure to leave out the channels which cause you to question your world view. How enlightened.

I just leave CMT, MTV, the Golf Channel and the home shopping channels out of my channel programming.
 
ThomasPaine said:
Having said that I find it somewhat amusing how sensitive agnostics and athiests are to religious programming. What's the matter? Fear of conversion? hehehehhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Not at all. Of course, if these spiiritual snake-oil salesmen actually walked it like they talked it, it might be possible but, even then, not very probable.
 
Bullypulpit said:
If Mr. Crouch, and the rest of these spiritual snake-oil salesmen want to get first-hand experience with persecution, they need to move to Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea or some other religio-socialist utopia. They can then become true martyrs instead of whining about cable access.

Be sure to remember that song and dance when homosexuals are screaming persecution for not being able to marry the same sex.

Or when blacks start screaming racism.

Or when women start screaming for equal pay( even though they usually dont provide equal work)
 
dilloduck said:
Well make me an offer here--I want one channel with good service. What's that gonna run me a month ?

you can come over to my house and watch it for only $20 a month. :) (but you have to bring the popcorn, and you are REQUIRED to watch my "hour with Jimmy Swaggart") :)
 
Bullypulpit said:
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was, nominally, Hindu. And Buddhism has had its share of charlatans and fakirs, just like any other religion. Which highlights the real issue...More often than not, its the practitioners of a given religion that drag it through the mud in the name of their favorite deity, rather than doctrine.

ahhh, you suddenly come up with the proper defense when YOUR choice of religion is attacked. But when Maxi pad attacked Christianity, and NOT THE PRACTIONERS in the first post, you were quite silent!
 
Max Power said:
NOT!

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indecency29nov29,0,2685885.story?coll=la-home-business



Christian groups are opposed to letting people choose what channels they recieve, because then they would no longer be forced to recieve Christian networks.

ROFL

Someone come on, claim how this is religious persecution, just like how it's persecution to not allow nativity scenes on public property.

For the record:
It's not persecution to NOT be allowed to shove your religion down other peoples throats.

Funny how you read it in such a slanted way.
You totally ignore the real solid Christians who oppose the televangelists.
Most Christians recognize those guys are mostly snake oil salesmen, yet you ignore that.

Funny how the liberal left is often accusing the Christian community of walking lockstep and not having individual thoughts, and now when they dont agree on something, they get attacked for that.

In spite of your propagandistic way of putting it "Christian groups are opposed",,,

the more accurate way of conveying what is occuring is something like "a small number of Christian groups" or "Televangelical Christian groups oppose.."

Your bias is obvious. Self deception never leads to happiness.
 
Eh, I don't have cable or satellite. I don't think it's worth the price. I'm certainly willing to let them add on/keep whatever niche channel they want if it lowers the total cost. It might get low enough that I would consider paying for it. I'm fairly sure I can operate a remote.
 
Bullypulpit said:
If Mr. Crouch, and the rest of these spiritual snake-oil salesmen want to get first-hand experience with persecution, they need to move to Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea or some other religio-socialist utopia. They can then become true martyrs instead of whining about cable access.

Frankly, you are right on. If TBN and other Christian stations want to continue getting subscribers, they'll have to make their programming desirable/interesting. That's hardly persecution. Believers in the countries you've listed are threatened with their lives on a daily basis, simply for their religious beliefs.
 
I think the most equitable way to handle this question is for the cable providers to do both -- continue offering basic cable at a low, competitive price; and offer a selective programming package at a slightly higher rate. In order to make it at least marginally profitable for those cable stations that otherwise would only get watched by "the choir," they should make sure the selective program offering has a minimum price that is slightly higher than the basic cable price, a couple dollars or so.

Like this:

Basic cable: $25
Selective cable: $29 for up to 17 channels (based on the average) of the viewer's choice, plus $2 for each additional channel, including premium channels.
 

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