Israel's Apartheid Laws

[JStone]

The same mosque that was built on the ruins of the Jewish temple.

Modern archaeologists have found Zero evidence that the so called "Wailing Wall" is the foundation of the Temple. Or that this was the site of the original Temple.

Which modern archeologists are you referring to? Those that are Muslim and reside in caves in Afganistan? Hilarious.

I educated poor sunni man on his own religion, in earlier posts. Evidently, he has never opened a quran nor has any inkling into the history of islime nor the Near East.

 

[JStone]

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie an deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

Open a book and learn about your own cult's doctrine of taqiyya that sanctions lying in the path to your stinking allah.

Islime is the only religion that advocates lying which is why it's not a religion, after all, it's a depraved cult of degenerates

 

[Sunni Man]

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.

Lying permitted in Islam

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie and deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

 

[toomuchtime_]

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.

Lying permitted in Islam

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie and deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

These are not from a field training manual for soldiers and spies; they are instructions to all Muslims in how to conduct their encounters with non Muslims, and implicit in these instructions is the view that all non Muslims are to be regarded and treated as enemies.

 

[JStone]

Quran 9:29: Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyahwith willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

 

[Roudy]

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.

Lying permitted in Islam

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie and deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

Those are not "wartime" instructions. They apply to everyday life. You forget that Islam is a way of life and a political movement. Lying to a non Muslim is "Hallal" REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. Just doesn't carry the same weight. So is stealing from and killing. Did you know that according to Shariah law, which is the law of the land in most if not all Muslim countries, the official punishment when a Muslim murders a non Muslim (possible incarceration) is much less than when a Muslim is murdered by a non Muslim ( certain death). I bet you don't see a problem with that either.

 

[JStone]

Eminent Islamic Scholar Dr. Bernard Lewis, Author, "Islam: The Religion And The People," "Islam and The West," "The Emergence Of Modern Turkey," "The Arabs In History," "The Muslim Discovery Of Europe," "Islam In History: Ideas, People, and Events in the Middle East" "The Political Language of Islam," "Islam: From The Prophet Muhammad to the Capture of Constantinople," The Islamic World: From Classical to Modern Times," "The World Of Islam: Faith, People, Culture," "Political Words And Ideas In Islam"

For most of the fourteen centuries of recorded Muslim history, jihad was most commonly interpreted to mean armed struggle for the defense or advancement of Muslim power. In Muslim tradition, the world is divided into two houses: the House of Islam (Dar al-Islam), in which Muslim governments rule and Muslim law prevails, and the House of War (Dar al-Harb), the rest of the world, still inhabited and, more important, ruled by infidels. The presumption is that the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule."

 

[Sunni Man]

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.

Lying permitted in Islam

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie and deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

These are not from a field training manual for soldiers and spies; they are instructions to all Muslims in how to conduct their encounters with non Muslims, and implicit in these instructions is the view that all non Muslims are to be regarded and treated as enemies.

Yes, it was given to all the muslim people because during a time of war everyone must fight and resist the enemy.

This is true for all wars in all countries since the beginning of time.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I see no problem with any of these verses.

All soldiers and secret agents from every country are trained to lie and deceive the enemy during war.

So what's the problem?

These are not from a field training manual for soldiers and spies; they are instructions to all Muslims in how to conduct their encounters with non Muslims, and implicit in these instructions is the view that all non Muslims are to be regarded and treated as enemies.

Yes, it was given to all the muslim people because during a time of war everyone must fight and resist the enemy.

This is true for all wars in all countries since the beginning of time.

Again, these are no wartime instructions, they are instructions for how to conduct all encounters with non Muslims, meaning that Muslims are instructed to regard all non Muslims as enemies at all times.

 

[JStone]

Eminent Islamic Scholar Dr. Bernard Lewis, Author: "Islam: The Religion And The People," "Islam and The West," "The Emergence Of Modern Turkey," "The Arabs In History," "The Muslim Discovery Of Europe," "Islam In History: Ideas, People, and Events in the Middle East" "The Political Language of Islam," "Islam: From The Prophet Muhammad to the Capture of Constantinople," The Islamic World: From Classical to Modern Times," "The World Of Islam: Faith, People, Culture," "Political Words And Ideas In Islam"

For most of the fourteen centuries of recorded Muslim history, jihad was most commonly interpreted to mean armed struggle for the defense or advancement of Muslim power. In Muslim tradition, the world is divided into two houses: the House of Islam (Dar al-Islam), in which Muslim governments rule and Muslim law prevails, and the House of War (Dar al-Harb), the rest of the world, still inhabited and, more important, ruled by infidels. The presumption is that the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule."

 

[Sunni Man]

Again, these are no wartime instructions, they are instructions for how to conduct all encounters with non Muslims, meaning that Muslims are instructed to regard all non Muslims as enemies at all times.

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

 

[JStone]

Again, these are no wartime instructions, they are instructions for how to conduct all encounters with non Muslims, meaning that Muslims are instructed to regard all non Muslims as enemies at all times.

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

Read, learn...

Eminent Islamic Scholar Dr. Bernard Lewis, Author: Islam: The Religion And The People," "Islam and The West," "The Emergence Of Modern Turkey," "The Arabs In History," "The Muslim Discovery Of Europe," "Islam In History: Ideas, People, and Events in the Middle East" "The Political Language of Islam," "Islam: From The Prophet Muhammad to the Capture of Constantinople," The Islamic World: From Classical to Modern Times," "The World Of Islam: Faith, People, Culture," "Political Words And Ideas In Islam"

For most of the fourteen centuries of recorded Muslim history, jihad was most commonly interpreted to mean armed struggle for the defense or advancement of Muslim power. In Muslim tradition, the world is divided into two houses: the House of Islam (Dar al-Islam), in which Muslim governments rule and Muslim law prevails, and the House of War (Dar al-Harb), the rest of the world, still inhabited and, more important, ruled by infidels. The presumption is that the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule."

Association For The Study Of The Middle East

For more than 60 years, Bernard Lewis, the doyen of Middle East historians, has interpreted the world of Islam to the West. Born and raised in London, he studied at the University of London's School of Oriental and African Studies, where he earned a Ph.D. in the History of Islam. After service during World War II, he taught at the University of London until 1974 and at Princeton University until 1986. He is currently Princeton's Cleveland E. Dodge Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies.

Professor Lewis has drawn on primary sources in Middle Eastern and other languages to produce more than two dozen books, including The Arabs in History and the post-9/11 international best-sellers What Went Wrong? and Crisis in Islam. Professor Lewis has performed the invaluable service of placing current events in the context of history.

He was the first Western scholar permitted access to the archives of the Ottoman Empire in Istanbul. His work is distinguished by its attention to the lives of ordinary people, as well as kings and rulers. Professor Lewis was among the first to study issues of race, slavery, class and the status of women in Middle Eastern history. In addition to his historical studies, he has published translations of classical Arabic, Turkish, Persian and Hebrew poetry. With the events of recent years creating an unprecedented demand in the West for knowledge of the Islamic East, Professor Lewis has made an important and unique contribution.
http://www.asmeascholars.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=6

 

[toomuchtime_]

Again, these are no wartime instructions, they are instructions for how to conduct all encounters with non Muslims, meaning that Muslims are instructed to regard all non Muslims as enemies at all times.

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

Nope, it's right on the money. It was just this attitude that seems so natural and normal to you that caused the Arabs to view Jewish immigrants to Palestine with so much fear and hatred and violence. A thousand years of Arab pogroms against Jews didn't just come out of nowhere.

 

[Sunni Man]

Again, these are no wartime instructions, they are instructions for how to conduct all encounters with non Muslims, meaning that Muslims are instructed to regard all non Muslims as enemies at all times.

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

Nope, it's right on the money. It was just this attitude that seems so natural and normal to you that caused the Arabs to view Jewish immigrants to Palestine with so much fear and hatred and violence. A thousand years of Arab pogroms against Jews didn't just come out of nowhere.

Incorrect again son.

The pogroms came out of Europe and were instituted by the Christians against the Jews.

 

[JStone]

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

Nope, it's right on the money. It was just this attitude that seems so natural and normal to you that caused the Arabs to view Jewish immigrants to Palestine with so much fear and hatred and violence. A thousand years of Arab pogroms against Jews didn't just come out of nowhere.

Incorrect again son.

The pogroms came out of Europe and were instituted by the Christians against the Jews.

Maybe, open a history book?

Jews are the only indigenous nation established in Israel for 3000 years. Israel is the Jewish Homeland. End of story.


PBS: Civilization and the Jews

The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel
PBS - Heritage

Harvard University Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth.

Harvard University Semitic Museum: Jerusalem During The Reign Of King Hezekiah--New Exhibition At The Semitic Museum Re-Creates Numerous Aspects Of Ancient Israel Harvard Gazette: Jerusalem during the reign of King Hezekiah

The Semitic Museum has installed a new exhibition that brings the world of biblical Israel into vivid, three-dimensional reality. "The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine" immerses the viewer in Israelite daily life around the time of King Hezekiah (8th century B.C.), creating an experiential environment based on the latest archaeological, textual, and historical research.
The centerpiece of the exhibition is a full-scale Israelite house, open on one side, filled with authentic ancient artifacts that show how life was lived by common inhabitants of ancient Jerusalem. Agricultural tools, a cooking area, and a stall occupied by a single, scruffy ram fill the ground floor of the cube-shaped, mud-brick structure, which, thankfully, is not olfactorily authentic. The upper story, reached by a ladder, is devoted to eating and sleeping.

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press

In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.

PBS Nova ...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[toomuchtime_]

That is incorrect.

You have No idea what you are talking about.

Nope, it's right on the money. It was just this attitude that seems so natural and normal to you that caused the Arabs to view Jewish immigrants to Palestine with so much fear and hatred and violence. A thousand years of Arab pogroms against Jews didn't just come out of nowhere.

Incorrect again son.

The pogroms came out of Europe and were instituted by the Christians against the Jews.

Nope, while there were pogroms in Europe that were committed by Christians, the first pogroms in Europe were committed by Muslims in Cordoba and Granada in the 11th century, and Arabs continued to commit pogroms against Jews throughout the ME and North Africa right into the 20th century.

During the Golden age of Jewish culture in Spain, beginning in the 9th century, Islamic Spain was more tolerant towards Jews.[10] The 11th century, however, saw several Muslim pogroms against Jews; notably those that occurred in Cordoba in 1011 and in Granada in 1066.[11] In the 1066 Granada massacre, the first large pogrom on European soil, a Muslim mob crucified the Jewish vizier Joseph ibn Naghrela and massacred about 4,000 Jews[12] In 1033 about 6,000 Jews were killed in Fez, Morocco by Muslim mobs.[13][14] Mobs in Fez murdered thousands of Jews in 1276,[15] and again, leaving only 11 alive, in 1465.[15][16]

There were pogroms too in the nineteenth century in the Arab and Islamic worlds. There was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad in 1828.[22] There was another massacre in Barfurush in 1867.[22] In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter, burned the synagogue, and destroyed the Torah scrolls. This is known as the Allahdad incident. It was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.[23]

The Damascus affair occurred in 1840, when an Italian monk and his servant disappeared in Damascus. Immediately following, a charge of ritual murder was brought against a large number of Jews in the city. All were found guilty. The consuls of England, France and Austria as well as Ottoman authorities, Christians, Muslims and Jews all played a great role in this affair.[24] Following the Damascus affair, pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa. As well as Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), pogroms of varying degrees of intensity occurred in: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).[25]

In the Arab world, there were a number of pogroms which played a key role in the massive emigration from Arab countries to Israel.

Anti-Jewish rioters killed over 140 Jews in the 1945 Tripoli pogrom.

The 1945 Cairo pogrom marked the start of a series of violent acts against Egypt's Jews.

Half of Aleppo's 10,000 Jews left the city in the wake of the 1947 Aleppo pogrom.

The 1947 Aden pogrom brought to an end the existence of Aden's almost two-thousand-year-old Jewish community.

The 1948 Oujda and Jerada pogrom and 1954 Petitjean pogrom were pogroms in Morocco.[46]

Pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

Quran 9:29: Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

 

[Sunni Man]

Nope, while there were pogroms in Europe that were committed by Christians, the first pogroms in Europe were committed by Muslims in Cordoba and Granada in the 11th century, and Arabs continued to commit pogroms against Jews throughout the ME and North Africa right into the 20th century.

Funny how you didn't continue to the part when in 1492 every single Jew under threat of death was kicked out of Spain by the Christians.

 

[JStone]

Nope, while there were pogroms in Europe that were committed by Christians, the first pogroms in Europe were committed by Muslims in Cordoba and Granada in the 11th century, and Arabs continued to commit pogroms against Jews throughout the ME and North Africa right into the 20th century.

Funny how you didn't continue to the part when in 1492 every single Jew under threat of death was kicked out of Spain by the Christians.

Funny how you didn't mention your pedophile muhammad beheaded 1000 Banu Qurayza Jews and ethically cleansed Arabia of Jews, Christians and all infidels.

Nor, did you mention that the muhammadan has slaughtered hundreds of millions for 1400 years.

Muwatta Imam Malik

'Umar b. Abd al-Aziz reported that the last statement made by the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) was: O Lord, perish the Jews and the Christians. They made churches of the graves of their Prophets. Beware, there should be no two faiths in Arabia.

 

[Sunni Man]

Pogrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this in the first paragraph from the link that you posted:

"Massive violent attacks against Jews date back at least to the Crusades such as the Pogrom of 1096 in France and Germany (the first "Christian" pogroms to be officially recorded), as well as the massacres of Jews at London and York in 1189–1190."

How convenient of you to leave this part out.

Just shows what a disingenuous piece of work you really are.