Israeli officials say 31 hostages dead as ceasefire negotiations continue

[shockedcanadian]

RIP. They were peaceful citizens who weren't harming anyone when they were snatched from their homes and forced to suffer for weeks before they died.

HAMAS is going to be make it difficult for Israelis to demand anything less than their demise.

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Israel's chief military spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said on Tuesday that 31 of the remaining hostages held in Gaza were pronounced dead.

"We have informed 31 families that their captured loved ones are no longer among the living and that we have pronounced them dead," he told a regular media briefing.

Israel previously said 136 hostages were still being held in Gaza after 110 were released during the only pause in fighting agreed so far in the current war against Hamas; that exchange happened in November, when Israel in turn released 240 Palestinians from Israeli prisons.

Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has been pushing for progress on a ceasefire-for-hostages deal and met Tuesday with leaders of Egypt and Qatar — key U.S. allies who often serve as mediators between Israel and Hamas.

 

[Rigby5]

RIP. They were peaceful citizens who weren't harming anyone when they were snatched from their homes and forced to suffer for weeks before they died.

HAMAS is going to be make it difficult for Israelis to demand anything less than their demise.

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Israel's chief military spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said on Tuesday that 31 of the remaining hostages held in Gaza were pronounced dead.

"We have informed 31 families that their captured loved ones are no longer among the living and that we have pronounced them dead," he told a regular media briefing.

Israel previously said 136 hostages were still being held in Gaza after 110 were released during the only pause in fighting agreed so far in the current war against Hamas; that exchange happened in November, when Israel in turn released 240 Palestinians from Israeli prisons.

Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has been pushing for progress on a ceasefire-for-hostages deal and met Tuesday with leaders of Egypt and Qatar — key U.S. allies who often serve as mediators between Israel and Hamas.

Wrong.
It is the Israeli government who killed the hostages, and it is the people in the Israeli government who started ALL the violence, going back to 1946.

The reason Menachim Begin murdered the British peacekeepers by blowing up the King David Hotel in 1948 was so no one could stop his gangs from massacring hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

Albert Einstein had been invited to Israel in 1948 to be offered the presidency.
After he saw the massacres of natives, he not only refused, but wrote letters to the NYTimes.

{...
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
...}

The UN should have shut down the Zionist criminals immediately.
So the UN is also complicit in the murders of hundreds of thousands of natives, and the theft of 85% of Palestine by the illegal, atheist, Jewish, immigrants.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This has long been settled. Are you suggesting that the world should revert back to 1948 and have a do-over?

Israel exists, the UN voted on it. They will continue to exist as long as the world understands who their neighbours are.

 

[Rigby5]

This has long been settled. Are you suggesting that the world should revert back to 1948 and have a do-over?

Israel exists, the UN voted on it. They will continue to exist as long as the world understands who their neighbours are.

No, it was never legally settled because Israel illegally prevented the 1948 refugees from returning to their legal property.
Since there are 13 million Palestinian Muslims and only 7 million illegal immigrant Israelis, the only way to have any legal Israel is for them to trade land to give to the natives they stole land from, and to evacuate Jerusalem and the West Bank they illegally invaded in 1967.
Israel is and always has been in violation of international law, and there are hundreds of UN resolutions condemning their war crimes.

 

[shockedcanadian]

No, it was never legally settled because Israel illegally prevented the 1948 refugees from returning to their legal property.
Since there are 13 million Palestinian Muslims and only 7 million illegal immigrant Israelis, the only way to have any legal Israel is for them to trade land to give to the natives they stole land from, and to evacuate Jerusalem and the West Bank they illegally invaded in 1967.
Israel is and always has been in violation of international law, and there are hundreds of UN resolutions condemning their war crimes.

Israel is a member of the U.N. Are you suggesting the U.N accepted a nation, that by your assertions, doesn't really exist?

 

[Roudy]

Wrong.
It is the Israeli government who killed the hostages, and it is the people in the Israeli government who started ALL the violence, going back to 1946.

The reason Menachim Begin murdered the British peacekeepers by blowing up the King David Hotel in 1948 was so no one could stop his gangs from massacring hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

Albert Einstein had been invited to Israel in 1948 to be offered the presidency.
After he saw the massacres of natives, he not only refused, but wrote letters to the NYTimes.

{...
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
...}

The UN should have shut down the Zionist criminals immediately.
So the UN is also complicit in the murders of hundreds of thousands of natives, and the theft of 85% of Palestine by the illegal, atheist, Jewish, immigrants.

Your mentality is why Gaza is now leveled. There is no negotiating with barbaric savages.

 

[Roudy]

Israel is a member of the U.N. Are you suggesting the U.N accepted a nation, that by your assertions, doesn't really exist?

What the moron is saying Arabs have a right to rape murder and commit genocide Jews, and the a Jews have no right to defend themselves, or make them pay for the consequences. Well I got news for ya Rigby, ain't going to ever happen again.

 

[Kruska]

RIP. They were peaceful citizens who weren't harming anyone when they were snatched from their homes and forced to suffer for weeks before they died.

If those hostages happen to be Zionists or supporters of the Zionist dogma and agenda - then they ain't "peaceful" citizens at all.

HAMAS is going to be make it difficult for Israelis to demand anything less than their demise.

The well known Zionist policy make's Palestinian and Muslim radicalism impossible to vanish or to be reduced - no matter how much bull you spread.

 

[Kruska]

Israel is a member of the U.N. Are you suggesting the U.N accepted a nation, that by your assertions, doesn't really exist?

Then YOU should ask yourself as to why, Israel until today is not recognized as a full UN member state.

 

[Rigby5]

Hardly a single Jewish person in Israel has paid for the homes they live in.
They were almost all stolen from the Arab natives.
Plus Menachim Begin was made Prime Minister, because of the way he massacred the British peacekeepers and native villages.
So there are no "innocent" Israeli Jews.
Religious Jews know they are supposed to be atoning for the sins of arrogance and pride, waiting for the coming of the Messiah.

 

[Rigby5]

This has long been settled. Are you suggesting that the world should revert back to 1948 and have a do-over?

Israel exists, the UN voted on it. They will continue to exist as long as the world understands who their neighbours are.

Palestine existed in 1920 due to the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres that was the payback the Palestinians earned by helping Lawrence of Arabia to defeat the Ottoman Empire.
Israel did nothing, earned nothing, and has no legal basis other than to murder the British peacekeepers and gun down Folke Bernadotte.

 

[Roudy]

Hardly a single Jewish person in Israel has paid for the homes they live in.
They were almost all stolen from the Arab natives.
Plus Menachim Begin was made Prime Minister, because of the way he massacred the British peacekeepers and native villages.
So there are no "innocent" Israeli Jews.
Religious Jews know they are supposed to be atoning for the sins of arrogance and pride, waiting for the coming of the Messiah.

“Hardly a single person in Israel has paid for the homes they live in.”?! Are you on drugs or do you have a link for this claim? You see, it’s outlandish idiotic lies like this that totally discredits and discourages any support for Palestinians.

 

[Hossfly]

Then YOU should ask yourself as to why, Israel until today is not recognized as a full UN member state.

1. International recognition of Israel - Wikipedia​

   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition...
   The State of Israel was formally established by the Israeli Declaration of Independence on 14 May 1948, and was admitted to the United Nations (UN) as a full member state on 11 May 1949.

 

[Kruska]

1. International recognition of Israel - Wikipedia​

   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition...
   The State of Israel was formally established by the Israeli Declaration of Independence on 14 May 1948, and was admitted to the United Nations (UN) as a full member state on 11 May 1949.

Who cares about some Wiki article???

Presently 30 UN member states do NOT recognize Israel - therefore it obviously isn't a fully recognized UN member state. It is however a State that was admitted to the UN in 1949 - therefore, simply a UN member state.

Israel - even according to it's own media has been denied full UN participation. therefore questioning it's own full membership.

Is Israel a full member of the United Nations?

From the blog of Glen Segell at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Furthermore Israel is in defiance of more then 70 UN resolutions - including UNSC resolutions.

This Week in History: Israel joins United Nations

Despite the contentious relationship Israel has continuously had with the UN, its admission to the world body remains an important landmark.

www.jpost.com

While the language in Resolution 273 did not condition Israel’s membership on the implementation of 181 and 194, the included mentions were indicative and foretelling of the frictions the Jewish state would face in the United Nations in years to come.

Israels latest breach towards the UN international status of Jerusalem, it's illegal annexation of the Golan heights, it's present war-crimes related to Gaza and it's illegal actions in the West-Bank - are even seriously jeopardizing Israels UN membership as such.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Who cares about some Wiki article???

Presently 30 UN member states do NOT recognize Israel - therefore it obviously isn't a fully recognized UN member state. It is however a State that was admitted to the UN in 1949 - therefore, simply a UN member state.

Israel - even according to it's own media has been denied full UN participation. therefore questioning it's own full membership.

Is Israel a full member of the United Nations?

From the blog of Glen Segell at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Furthermore Israel is in defiance of more then 70 UN resolutions - including UNSC resolutions.

This Week in History: Israel joins United Nations

Despite the contentious relationship Israel has continuously had with the UN, its admission to the world body remains an important landmark.

www.jpost.com

While the language in Resolution 273 did not condition Israel’s membership on the implementation of 181 and 194, the included mentions were indicative and foretelling of the frictions the Jewish state would face in the United Nations in years to come.

Israels latest breach towards the UN international status of Jerusalem, it's illegal annexation of the Golan heights, it's present war-crimes related to Gaza and it's illegal actions in the West-Bank - are even seriously jeopardizing Israels UN membership as such.

Post the.full list of the 30 members who do not recognize them in this thread. It will be the usual suspects. You know, the type whose government would support thhe terror attacks of Oct 7th (and probably 9/11) but are outrwged that Israel responds in the defense of their country, "how dare they!?" . I also bet that none of these 30 nations would ever "tolerate" a peaceful music festival with young adults dancing and exercizing freedom of expression as that which was the target of a terror attack in Israel. The nations that don't like Israel are the most backward and oppressive of governments.

 

[José]

Israel is a member of the U.N. Are you suggesting
the U.N accepted a nation, that by your assertions,
doesn't really exist?

Stop for a moment and notice the absolute insanity that underpins the argument of shockedcanadian:

He's basically saying that a group of diplomatic representatives from France, Argentina, Britain, China and the Soviet Union have the right to dispose of the homeland of the palestinians and give it to european colonists.

European, American and asian diplomats "giving" the homeland of another people as a "gift" to foreign invaders.

He talks as if foreigners giving somebody else's land to invaders without the consent of the native population were a totally "legitimate" act. Apparently this nuttery makes perfect sense inside his head!!!!

The world, together with this Canadian, must have gone mad.

 

[Roudy]

Israel is a member of the U.N. Are you suggesting
the U.N accepted a nation, that by your assertions,
doesn't really exist?

Stop for a moment and notice the absolute insanity that underpins the argument of shockedcanadian:

He's basically saying that a group of diplomatic representatives from France, Argentina, Britain, China and the Soviet Union have the right to dispose of the homeland of the palestinians and give it to european colonists.

European, American and asian diplomats "giving" the homeland of another people as a "gift" to foreign invaders.

He talks as if foreigners giving somebody else's land to invaders without the consent of the native population were a totally "legitimate" act. Apparently this nuttery makes perfect sense inside his head!!!!

The world, together with this Canadian, must have gone mad.

Ha ha ha, As usual, you have it ass backwards, for thousands of years, Israel has been the religious and ancestral HOMELAND of the Jews, not a bunch of invading and squatting Arabs who called themselves Palestinians circa 1960’s.

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.​

-Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against.

 

[José]

As usual, you have it ass backwards, for thousands of years, Israel has been the religious and ancestral HOMELAND of the Jews, not a bunch of invading and squatting Arabs who called themselves Palestinians circa 1960’s.

Put down the crack pipe, Zionist...

This guy is about as "semitic" as Mao Tse-Tung:

 

[martybegan]

“Hardly a single person in Israel has paid for the homes they live in.”?! Are you on drugs or do you have a link for this claim? You see, it’s outlandish idiotic lies like this that totally discredits and discourages any support for Palestinians.

he's an old school jew hating anti-semitic dipshit.

 

[Roudy]

As usual, you have it ass backwards, for thousands of years, Israel has been the religious and ancestral HOMELAND of the Jews, not a bunch of invading and squatting Arabs who called themselves Palestinians circa 1960’s.

Put down the crack pipe, Zionist...

This guy is about as "semitic" as Mao Tse-Tung:

Another delusional bigoted comment. What makes you think he isn’t Semitic you moron, his skin color? Ha ha ha. You do know that a majority of Jews in Israel today are Jews from middle eastern countries that are direct descendants of Jews that fled the destruction of the first and second temples in Jerusalem.

Also, the Hasidic who make up a very small minority of worldwide Jewish population are more Jewish aka Semitic than the rest since they very rarely intermarried or converted. Judaism as whole does not promote proselytizing and a person cannot be considered Jewish unless their parents are.

So once again, all you have is bullshit, lies and propaganda.

The joke is on you, there has never been a Palestine or Palestinian people:

“There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".​

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -​

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