Israel: Helping To Make A Better World

[Ria_Longhorn]

"Looking to the future is something researchers and students at Technion, Israel’s oldest university, are famed for doing. Graduates have translated their ideas, skills and ambition into the USB memory stick, drip irrigation, instant messaging and rasagiline, a drug for treating early-stage Parkinson’s disease."

‘You must be optimistic to live in this part of the world’

 

[Votto]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oxygen monitoring device wins prize at Hackathon

 

[Hollie]

Oh, no.

Those Joooooos.


Palestinian contractors poised for riches from Israeli tech firm's takeover

https://www.yahoo.com/news/palestinian-contractors-poised-riches-israeli-082225725.html

RAWABI, West Bank/TEL AVIV, June 17 (Reuters) - Palestinian engineers working for Israeli chip designer Mellanox Technologies are poised to share a $3.5 million payout when the company's takeover by U.S. chip supplier Nvidia Corp is completed.

 

[Votto]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

"If I had power over them (i.e., Jews) I would assemble their most prominent men and demand that they prove that we Christians do not worship the one God, under the penalty of having their tongues torn out through the backs of their necks." -- Martin Luther.

Germany's Protestant's Sunday weeklies, who had a readership of some 5.4 million, wrote that Jews were "the natural enemies of the Christian-national tradition," and that they had caused "the collapse of the Christian and monarchical order." Bishop Otto Diebelius, General Superintendent of the Kurmark Diocese of the Evangelical Church in Prussia, penned a letter in 1933 that he has been "always an antisemite" and "that in all of the corrosive manifestations of modern civilization Jewry plays a leading role."

The tongue is the most dangerous organ in the human body . . . yes, Christian anti-Semitism did have a role in the murder of Jews.

As non-Jews, the relationship between G-d and the Jewish People is beyond our ken and we'd do well to remain silent on the matter.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Israel to assist developing countries improve cyber resilience

 

[Votto]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

"If I had power over them (i.e., Jews) I would assemble their most prominent men and demand that they prove that we Christians do not worship the one God, under the penalty of having their tongues torn out through the backs of their necks." -- Martin Luther.

Germany's Protestant's Sunday weeklies, who had a readership of some 5.4 million, wrote that Jews were "the natural enemies of the Christian-national tradition," and that they had caused "the collapse of the Christian and monarchical order." Bishop Otto Diebelius, General Superintendent of the Kurmark Diocese of the Evangelical Church in Prussia, penned a letter in 1933 that he has been "always an antisemite" and "that in all of the corrosive manifestations of modern civilization Jewry plays a leading role."

The tongue is the most dangerous organ in the human body . . . yes, Christian anti-Semitism did have a role in the murder of Jews.

As non-Jews, the relationship between G-d and the Jewish People is beyond our ken and we'd do well to remain silent on the matter.

Martin Luther was anti-Semitic at the end of his life. Early on, however, he was convinced that he could persuade Jews to convert to Christianity if only explained to them properly. He was mistaken and he became embittered towards them.

From a Christian perspective, however, this is not a correct attitude to have. Christians should NEVER become bitter at those who refuse to convert. After all, it is their loss, not the loss of the Christian. Secondly, Jesus said that he laid down his life. In other words, no one was taking his life from him, so blaming the Jews for him laying down his life does not make much sense here. And lastly, today about the only supporters of Israel are Evangelical Christians. In fact, Christians are hunted down just like the Jews were such as the genocide in the Sudan and the Armenian genocide in Turkey, etc.

In my opinion, Luther was a fledgling Christian who learned the Bible by studying it himself. People were simply not taught the Bible as the Catholic church took liberties to make up doctrines, such as buying your way out of perdition, etc. This is why Luther split with the church, a split that I think was 100% correct. However, I feel he simply got it wrong regarding the prevalent culture of the day which was steeped in anti-Semitism. The early church was simply not like this at all until the advent of Constantine and the Catholic church. We are talking hundreds of years of Christianity with zero anti-Semitism.

But alas, once one achieves political power then heads start to roll. This is what happened with the Catholic church became the hub of political power in Europe. I don't really care who it is, which is why God warned of a human king to the Hebrew people who demanded Saul. The state is responsible for more carnage than any other organization. After all, genocide is an ordered operation that is most effectively run by the state/military/etc.

I think Dennis Prager, who is a Jew, got it right. Even though Christianity had a dark period with anti-Semitism, it is a thing of the past. After all, those who scream for the destruction of Israel are not Christians, they are now Muslims. Also note, Muslims were also once tolerate of Jews. Additionally, Christianity has done more to bring the Torah to the world than anything, and I think that is why America has been so successful to this point.

 

[Sixties Fan]

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

"If I had power over them (i.e., Jews) I would assemble their most prominent men and demand that they prove that we Christians do not worship the one God, under the penalty of having their tongues torn out through the backs of their necks." -- Martin Luther.

Germany's Protestant's Sunday weeklies, who had a readership of some 5.4 million, wrote that Jews were "the natural enemies of the Christian-national tradition," and that they had caused "the collapse of the Christian and monarchical order." Bishop Otto Diebelius, General Superintendent of the Kurmark Diocese of the Evangelical Church in Prussia, penned a letter in 1933 that he has been "always an antisemite" and "that in all of the corrosive manifestations of modern civilization Jewry plays a leading role."

The tongue is the most dangerous organ in the human body . . . yes, Christian anti-Semitism did have a role in the murder of Jews.

As non-Jews, the relationship between G-d and the Jewish People is beyond our ken and we'd do well to remain silent on the matter.

Martin Luther was anti-Semitic at the end of his life. Early on, however, he was convinced that he could persuade Jews to convert to Christianity if only explained to them properly. He was mistaken and he became embittered towards them.

From a Christian perspective, however, this is not a correct attitude to have. Christians should NEVER become bitter at those who refuse to convert. After all, it is their loss, not the loss of the Christian. Secondly, Jesus said that he laid down his life. In other words, no one was taking his life from him, so blaming the Jews for him laying down his life does not make much sense here. And lastly, today about the only supporters of Israel are Evangelical Christians. In fact, Christians are hunted down just like the Jews were such as the genocide in the Sudan and the Armenian genocide in Turkey, etc.

In my opinion, Luther was a fledgling Christian who learned the Bible by studying it himself. People were simply not taught the Bible as the Catholic church took liberties to make up doctrines, such as buying your way out of perdition, etc. This is why Luther split with the church, a split that I think was 100% correct. However, I feel he simply got it wrong regarding the prevalent culture of the day which was steeped in anti-Semitism. The early church was simply not like this at all until the advent of Constantine and the Catholic church. We are talking hundreds of years of Christianity with zero anti-Semitism.

But alas, once one achieves political power then heads start to roll. This is what happened with the Catholic church became the hub of political power in Europe. I don't really care who it is, which is why God warned of a human king to the Hebrew people who demanded Saul. The state is responsible for more carnage than any other organization. After all, genocide is an ordered operation that is most effectively run by the state/military/etc.

I think Dennis Prager, who is a Jew, got it right. Even though Christianity had a dark period with anti-Semitism, it is a thing of the past. After all, those who scream for the destruction of Israel are not Christians, they are now Muslims. Also note, Muslims were also once tolerate of Jews. Additionally, Christianity has done more to bring the Torah to the world than anything, and I think that is why America has been so successful to this point.

Your conversation belongs in another thread. Please continue in the Religion or any other forum or thread. Thanks.

 

[Votto]

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

"If I had power over them (i.e., Jews) I would assemble their most prominent men and demand that they prove that we Christians do not worship the one God, under the penalty of having their tongues torn out through the backs of their necks." -- Martin Luther.

Germany's Protestant's Sunday weeklies, who had a readership of some 5.4 million, wrote that Jews were "the natural enemies of the Christian-national tradition," and that they had caused "the collapse of the Christian and monarchical order." Bishop Otto Diebelius, General Superintendent of the Kurmark Diocese of the Evangelical Church in Prussia, penned a letter in 1933 that he has been "always an antisemite" and "that in all of the corrosive manifestations of modern civilization Jewry plays a leading role."

The tongue is the most dangerous organ in the human body . . . yes, Christian anti-Semitism did have a role in the murder of Jews.

As non-Jews, the relationship between G-d and the Jewish People is beyond our ken and we'd do well to remain silent on the matter.

Martin Luther was anti-Semitic at the end of his life. Early on, however, he was convinced that he could persuade Jews to convert to Christianity if only explained to them properly. He was mistaken and he became embittered towards them.

From a Christian perspective, however, this is not a correct attitude to have. Christians should NEVER become bitter at those who refuse to convert. After all, it is their loss, not the loss of the Christian. Secondly, Jesus said that he laid down his life. In other words, no one was taking his life from him, so blaming the Jews for him laying down his life does not make much sense here. And lastly, today about the only supporters of Israel are Evangelical Christians. In fact, Christians are hunted down just like the Jews were such as the genocide in the Sudan and the Armenian genocide in Turkey, etc.

In my opinion, Luther was a fledgling Christian who learned the Bible by studying it himself. People were simply not taught the Bible as the Catholic church took liberties to make up doctrines, such as buying your way out of perdition, etc. This is why Luther split with the church, a split that I think was 100% correct. However, I feel he simply got it wrong regarding the prevalent culture of the day which was steeped in anti-Semitism. The early church was simply not like this at all until the advent of Constantine and the Catholic church. We are talking hundreds of years of Christianity with zero anti-Semitism.

But alas, once one achieves political power then heads start to roll. This is what happened with the Catholic church became the hub of political power in Europe. I don't really care who it is, which is why God warned of a human king to the Hebrew people who demanded Saul. The state is responsible for more carnage than any other organization. After all, genocide is an ordered operation that is most effectively run by the state/military/etc.

I think Dennis Prager, who is a Jew, got it right. Even though Christianity had a dark period with anti-Semitism, it is a thing of the past. After all, those who scream for the destruction of Israel are not Christians, they are now Muslims. Also note, Muslims were also once tolerate of Jews. Additionally, Christianity has done more to bring the Torah to the world than anything, and I think that is why America has been so successful to this point.

Your conversation belongs in another thread. Please continue in the Religion or any other forum or thread. Thanks.

Can't talk about religion when talking about the Holy Land?

All righty then

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

"If I had power over them (i.e., Jews) I would assemble their most prominent men and demand that they prove that we Christians do not worship the one God, under the penalty of having their tongues torn out through the backs of their necks." -- Martin Luther.

Germany's Protestant's Sunday weeklies, who had a readership of some 5.4 million, wrote that Jews were "the natural enemies of the Christian-national tradition," and that they had caused "the collapse of the Christian and monarchical order." Bishop Otto Diebelius, General Superintendent of the Kurmark Diocese of the Evangelical Church in Prussia, penned a letter in 1933 that he has been "always an antisemite" and "that in all of the corrosive manifestations of modern civilization Jewry plays a leading role."

The tongue is the most dangerous organ in the human body . . . yes, Christian anti-Semitism did have a role in the murder of Jews.

As non-Jews, the relationship between G-d and the Jewish People is beyond our ken and we'd do well to remain silent on the matter.

Martin Luther was anti-Semitic at the end of his life. Early on, however, he was convinced that he could persuade Jews to convert to Christianity if only explained to them properly. He was mistaken and he became embittered towards them.

From a Christian perspective, however, this is not a correct attitude to have. Christians should NEVER become bitter at those who refuse to convert. After all, it is their loss, not the loss of the Christian. Secondly, Jesus said that he laid down his life. In other words, no one was taking his life from him, so blaming the Jews for him laying down his life does not make much sense here. And lastly, today about the only supporters of Israel are Evangelical Christians. In fact, Christians are hunted down just like the Jews were such as the genocide in the Sudan and the Armenian genocide in Turkey, etc.

In my opinion, Luther was a fledgling Christian who learned the Bible by studying it himself. People were simply not taught the Bible as the Catholic church took liberties to make up doctrines, such as buying your way out of perdition, etc. This is why Luther split with the church, a split that I think was 100% correct. However, I feel he simply got it wrong regarding the prevalent culture of the day which was steeped in anti-Semitism. The early church was simply not like this at all until the advent of Constantine and the Catholic church. We are talking hundreds of years of Christianity with zero anti-Semitism.

But alas, once one achieves political power then heads start to roll. This is what happened with the Catholic church became the hub of political power in Europe. I don't really care who it is, which is why God warned of a human king to the Hebrew people who demanded Saul. The state is responsible for more carnage than any other organization. After all, genocide is an ordered operation that is most effectively run by the state/military/etc.

I think Dennis Prager, who is a Jew, got it right. Even though Christianity had a dark period with anti-Semitism, it is a thing of the past. After all, those who scream for the destruction of Israel are not Christians, they are now Muslims. Also note, Muslims were also once tolerate of Jews. Additionally, Christianity has done more to bring the Torah to the world than anything, and I think that is why America has been so successful to this point.

Your conversation belongs in another thread. Please continue in the Religion or any other forum or thread. Thanks.

Can't talk about religion when talking about the Holy Land?

All righty then

Is this the religion forum? No.
Is this a thread about religion? No
What is this thread about? Read the first post.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Street Juice]

Would this be a good time to start listing the Palestinian contributions to humanity and peace? Heh heh.

What's with you guys and your unhinged hatred of the Palestinians? You are like the guy driving the van of dancing Israelis on 9-11. Told the cops when they were stopped, "We're not your problem. The Palestinians are your problem." Fucking insane. Get help for chrissake.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

Wrong, Nazi Germany was about twice as Lutheran as Catholic.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Genesis 22:18 "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Richard Dawkins Perplexed by High Number of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

This Torah passage was not lost on me either. Thank you, for the reminder.

But the Left regards those who are successful and "wealthy" as exploiters and not a blessing.

This is why Jews were rounded up all over Europe for centuries and persecuted. They simply created wealth and prosperity and were despised for it.

This is why they went to the gas chambers.

But alas, for the Godless Looney Left coveting is a virtue.

Jews have been rounded up for the past 1700 years by Christians because of the teachings of Christianity and one of them is......Jews are not allowed to be successful They must pay for rejecting Jesus.
Especially when things are not going well for Christians.

NO, it is not "why" the Nazis sent the Jews to the gas chambers.
2000 years of Christian lies will do that to some people, as it had happened before in many pogroms and the Inquisition before the Shoa.

Jews created wealth for the Christians. But depending on the new person in power, or the church groups, those Christian governments would turn against the Jews and usually take everything from them, including their lives, or force them to convert.

What does it have to do with the "Left" ? Left of which countries?

Some on those "Left", as in the UK, are simply a product of their Christian, Nazi, etc inspirations against the Jews.

We are not seeing anything new from before. It was simply expected not to happen again after the Shoa. But the "Just Christians" are up to their complaints and demands that the Jews pay the price......again.

I do not blame Christianity for the plight of the Jews.

The Jewish people were rounded up by a populace dominated by the Catholic church, a church that was in desperate need of reform due to false doctrines. The people had no access to the Torah and NT until the Gutenberg Press allowed people to read it for themselves. In short, the church was nothing more than a political entity hell bent on worldly power and subsequent oppression, no better than any other man made government at that time. Even though Constantine built the foundation of the Catholic church, he was not even a convert. He simply used the fledgling religion for his own political purposes.

The core issue here is politics vs. God. Long ago the Jewish nation demanded a king in 1 Samuel 8. God saw this as a rejection of himself, and warned the people of the abuses that would ensue if they continued to reject him in favor of a sinful man to be their king. However, they would not listen as God gave them Saul. From that time on it was a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany. And yes, these were National Socialists, and no matter how the Left tries to distance themselves from the National Socialists, they were very Left wing. For the Left, the state becomes their God. Jesus even warns us that his kingdom is not of this world nor can be of this world.

Today, the majority of Jews seem to lean Left, I think mainly due to their continued rejection of God since most are atheist/secular. These same people are cozying up to a party that would just as soon throw the Zionist nation into a second Holocaust. In fact, I wonder how many voted for the National Socialists.

Wrong, Nazi Germany was about twice as Lutheran as Catholic.

We are not interested.
Why?
Because it is not the topic of this thread.
Take your topic to the right thread.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Would this be a good time to start listing the Palestinian contributions to humanity and peace? Heh heh.

What's with you guys and your unhinged hatred of the Palestinians? You are like the guy driving the van of dancing Israelis on 9-11. Told the cops when they were stopped, "We're not your problem. The Palestinians are your problem." Fucking insane. Get help for chrissake.

That was a very old post.
There is no hatred of Palestinians.
You are getting off topic.

The topic is :
"Israel: Helping To Make A Better World"