Israel 500 Bunker Buster Bombs

[David2004]

Is America safer with Homeland Security catching Cat Stevens before he enters the United States? Is Israel safer with the American Taxpayers giving the State of Israel 500 Bunker Buster Bombs at the cost of 319 million dollars? Most likely it was Israeli Government who was behind the information that put Cat Stevens on Americas no fly list. Yes Cat Stevens converted to Islam and has spoken out in support of the Palestinian people struggle for human rights and dignity. Yes the Israeli Government promised not to use any of the 500 Bunker Buster Bombs on the Palestinian people. These two actions by the United States Government epitomize the problems we face in the Middle East in our War on Terror.

The 911 Commission Report focuses on our government?s international intelligence system. There are three basic parts to our intelligence system collecting information, analyzing the information and creating policies and actions. Our elected public officials are directly involved in the analyzing of the intelligence information and the policies and actions aspects placing more of the blame on the system of the collections of intelligence information. With so much of the collected information subjected to the personal interpretation of the people that handle it. It is advantageous for people in power to disseminate misinformation so the people on the street do not really know what is going on.

Too much of the United States government?s intelligence information regarding the Middle East is filter through the Mossad and the Israeli government. Israel a Jewish military state with two to four hundred nuclear weapons wants to remain the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons. Washington rumor has it that the 500 Bunker Buster Bombs that the United States is giving Israel are targeted for Syria and Iran after the 2004 election in the United States. Cat Stevens a truth teller is a threat to war not peace. Both the State of Israel and the United States today lack in international diplomacy while favoring military actions instead.

It is not the lack of intelligence information that is the problem. It is the interpretation of the intelligence information as well as the source that it comes from that must be questioned. The Neo-conservatives and the private sector of the military industrial complex is the strong arm behind many of our military actions and policies in the Middle East and the world today. There is a great lack of balance between international diplomacy and military actions and policies of the United States and the State of Israel. What are the best and worst synopsis cases of the State of Israel having 500 Bunker Buster Bombs? Reality and common sense for most people in the world would tell you ?the bad far out ways the good? in this case. There is an element to all actions and government policies that are good and bad that must be weight in the decision making process. Only with a balance in the truth will come fairness and justice for the people bringing peace and security to the people on both side.

 

[Annie]

Is America safer with Homeland Security catching Cat Stevens before he enters the United States? Is Israel safer with the American Taxpayers giving the State of Israel 500 Bunker Buster Bombs at the cost of 319 million dollars?

Yes. Yes.

Most likely it was Israeli Government who was behind the information that put Cat Stevens on Americas no fly list. Yes Cat Stevens converted to Islam and has spoken out in support of the Palestinian people struggle for human rights and dignity.

and you have proof that Israeli intelligence tipped? You have a bonafide source that is speculating on this?

Yes the Israeli Government promised not to use any of the 500 Bunker Buster Bombs on the Palestinian people. These two actions by the United States Government epitomize the problems we face in the Middle East in our War on Terror.

And tell us David, how do these epitomize our problems?

The 911 Commission Report focuses on our government?s international intelligence system. There are three basic parts to our intelligence system collecting information, analyzing the information and creating policies and actions. Our elected public officials are directly involved in the analyzing of the intelligence information and the policies and actions aspects placing more of the blame on the system of the collections of intelligence information. With so much of the collected information subjected to the personal interpretation of the people that handle it. It is advantageous for people in power to disseminate misinformation so the people on the street do not really know what is going on.

This is so disorganized, I'm unsure what to do with it. Is this on some part of the Commission report? Is it a lesson of the legislature's reponsibility regarding intelligence? Is it a civics lesson? What is this? All I can figure out is you are not happy with the current state of affairs.

Too much of the United States government?s intelligence information regarding the Middle East is filter through the Mossad and the Israeli government. Israel a Jewish military state with two to four hundred nuclear weapons wants to remain the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons.

One more time,

Washington rumor has it that the 500 Bunker Buster Bombs that the United States is giving Israel are targeted for Syria and Iran after the 2004 election in the United States.

Cat Stevens a truth teller is a threat to war not peace.

Both the State of Israel and the United States today lack in international diplomacy while favoring military actions instead.

No shit! For crying out loud, you are raving without any substance. Where are you getting this crap?

It is not the lack of intelligence information that is the problem. It is the interpretation of the intelligence information as well as the source that it comes from that must be questioned. The Neo-conservatives and the private sector of the military industrial complex is the strong arm behind many of our military actions and policies in the Middle East and the world today. There is a great lack of balance between international diplomacy and military actions and policies of the United States and the State of Israel. What are the best and worst synopsis cases of the State of Israel having 500 Bunker Buster Bombs? Reality and common sense for most people in the world would tell you ?the bad far out ways the good? in this case. There is an element to all actions and government policies that are good and bad that must be weight in the decision making process. Only with a balance in the truth will come fairness and justice for the people bringing peace and security to the people on both side.

There is a ring of the second paragraph's disorganization found here, but bottom line, Israel needs those bombs.

This has to be your entry to try and knock Wade off his pedestal.

I moved this thread from the Israel forum, since it primarily is dealing with US policy.

 

[ajwps]

It appears that the US is selling Israel more than 500 bunker buster bombs and smart bombs developed by Israeli and American scientists.

The US is apparently arming its Middle East ally in order to pre-emptively destroy Iran's nuclear potential before Iran destroys mankind.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/09/23/iran.israel.bomb.ap/

and

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/22/wnuke22.xml

The nations of the world will not love Israel or the USA but they will RESPECT THESE TWO COUNTRIES.

That is the history of the world.

 

[ajwps]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/667bkgnr.asp

Yusuf Islam is already well known for his public endorsement of the death sentence issued by Ayatollah Khomeini against Salman Rushdie in February 1989. "Salman Rushdie, indeed any writer who abuses the prophet or indeed any prophet under Islamic law, the sentence for that is actually death," he said at the time. In addition, he has been barred from entering Israel because of alleged financial aid given to terrorist groups.

 

[David2004]

Israeli Prime Minister Sharon says he wants to pull the Jewish settlements and the Israeli Defense Forces out of the Gaza Strip by next summer. Today there are more than two thousand IDF in the Gaza Strip with the level of fighting increasing to new highs. If the Palestinians launch a rocket on to Israel it is condemn as an act of terror. If the Israelis launch a rocket on to the Palestinians it is considered a defensive move by Israel. If the Palestinians receive weapons it is considered to be smuggling weapons to terrorists and if the Israelis receive weapons from the American taxpayers it is consider to be an act to guarantee the security of the State of Israel. If Palestinians or Israelis speak out about the inhuman treatment of the Palestinian people, they are not heard by the people in America.

For the last one hundred plus years the Jewish Zionists have been fighting for the Greater State of Israel. From the Stern Gang blowing up the King David Hotel to the IDF blowing up Arafat?s headquarters they have been dominating and controlling the events in the Holy Land. Today only the United States government is buying the Israeli government?s story that they are the victims while most of the other nations in the world view the Palestinian people as the victim of Israeli aggression. The Israelis are one of the main pipelines of Middle East intelligence information that feeds the United States government intelligence agencies. From the Israeli Zionists to the American Neocons too much of American intelligence information on the Middle East is translated, analyzed and their interpolation feed to the American mass media and government.

The United States and the Israeli government say that we are safer today with our rush to War in Iraq because we removed Saddam from power. A leader who paid the families of Palestinian suicide bombers 25 thousand dollars after the Israelis destroyed their family home as well as Saddam launching stud missile attacks on to Israel in the 1991 Gulf War. For Israelis to bomb Iraq nuclear plant is seen as a great victory by the western nations and Israel. Keeping Israel the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons. Today there is more talk from the Neocons in bombing Iran?s nuclear facilities. Under the American political system the Neocons have flourished taking control of our government?s Middle East policies. With the United States expanding the War in the Middle East the Israelis have a smoke screen to commit more horrific acts of terror against Palestinian people raising the level of tension in the region.

While Americans people receive one story that is greatly influence and scripted by the Neocons. Many people of the rest world receive a much different story that is closer to the real truth. The people and nations in the world are divided and polarized with the United States and the State of Israel being isolated from the rest of the global community of nations in the world. Because of the military act of aggressions by the State of Israel and the United States there are more people and nations in the world that feel threaten by their policies and actions. The leaders of the United States and Israel say one thing while doing another thing totally different from what they original said.