Is There NEVER a Time to Hit a Woman? NEVER?

[Anathema]

Then a different one. With a license and everything.

Licensed and Registered. Works with Medicare and everything. Been seeing her for almost 9 years now.

 

[Anathema]

I was thinking more along the lines of a divorce attorney.

She's welcome to do that, within the confines of our prenup.

 

[Vastator]

As to the thread title; women fought for equality. Who am I to cheapen the victory?

 

[Ravi]

Then a different one. With a license and everything.

Licensed and Registered. Works with Medicare and everything. Been seeing her for almost 9 years now.

Are your discipline beliefs based on religious views?

 

[Anathema]

Are your discipline beliefs based on religious views?

Not really on religious beliefs. Neither of us sre followers of or adherents to the precepts of an organized religion. We are both believers in a particular style of Traditionalist Morality and Values that includes well defined gender roles.

 

[Anathema]

As to the thread title; women fought for equality. Who am I to cheapen the victory?

Very true. One cannot decry the privileges of Patriarchy and then hide behind the privileges of Chivalry without being seen as hypocritical.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I only found out very recently that my grandfather used to beat my grandma when he felt she violated one of this household rules. He is quite lucky that I wasn't made aware of these facts when he was alive.

What, you mean all women don't desire to be treated like idiot children their whole lives? Some actually fancy themselves intelligent, adult human beings worthy of freedom and self-determination?

Color me shocked.

:sarcasm off:

 

[mdk]

I only found out very recently that my grandfather used to beat my grandma when he felt she violated one of this household rules. He is quite lucky that I wasn't made aware of these facts when he was alive.

What, you mean all women don't desire to be treated like idiot children their whole lives? Some actually fancy themselves intelligent, adult human beings worthy of freedom and self-determination?

Color me shocked.

:sarcasm off:

It totally change my perception of him and not for the good. In a way, I almost wish I didn't know.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I only found out very recently that my grandfather used to beat my grandma when he felt she violated one of this household rules. He is quite lucky that I wasn't made aware of these facts when he was alive.

What, you mean all women don't desire to be treated like idiot children their whole lives? Some actually fancy themselves intelligent, adult human beings worthy of freedom and self-determination?

Color me shocked.

:sarcasm off:

It totally change my perception of him and not for the good. In a way, I almost wish I didn't know.

I have no problems with traditional gender roles, but I have never believed that my "traditional gender role" was as an idiot child.

 

[Ravi]

I only found out very recently that my grandfather used to beat my grandma when he felt she violated one of this household rules. He is quite lucky that I wasn't made aware of these facts when he was alive.

What, you mean all women don't desire to be treated like idiot children their whole lives? Some actually fancy themselves intelligent, adult human beings worthy of freedom and self-determination?

Color me shocked.

:sarcasm off:

It totally change my perception of him and not for the good. In a way, I almost wish I didn't know.

I have no problems with traditional gender roles, but I have never believed that my "traditional gender role" was as an idiot child.

Your idiocy has nothing to do with gender.

 

[Jarlaxle]

so under what circumstances do you find 'disciplining' your spouse by hitting them "okay"?

still waiting for an answer ^

I wasn't sure you wanted one, considering your commentary related to not believing that I'm being honest.

Corporal Discipline/Punishment is part of the 3rd and 4th steps of a 5 step system that my wife and I use, and have used for the entirety of the almost 4 years we've lived together (even before we were married). Please note thst she is free to leave at any time, for any reason, pursuant to the clauses in our prenuptial agreement.

1st Step - Verbal Reminder of Infraction.

2nd Step - Verbal Reminder of Infraction and Loss of Privilege

3rd Step - Verbal Reminder of Infraction and Minor Physical Discipline (less than or equal to 10 Contacts)

4th Step - Verbal Reminder of Infraction and Major Physical Discipline (less than or equal to 20 Contacts)

5th Step - Verbal Reminder of Infraction and Removal from Premises

In nearly 48 months weve reached Step 3 once and Step 2 twice.

I beg your pardon, are you ill?

Yes: he is a psychopathic nut and should be locked up.

 

[ChrisL]

that answer lacks an answer... describe the 'infractions' you speak of.

In 2 of the 3 cases it was failure to complete basic tasks in the prescribed timeframe. The 3rd Step incident was included in that category.

The other 2nd Step incident was a repeated insubordination issue. Talking back and expressing opinions on topics that she is not the arbiter of in the household withoit being rewuested to do so.

Basic tasks? Such as?

What do you consider "talking back?"

What you want is a slave, not a spouse.

 

[ChrisL]

I was thinking more along the lines of a divorce attorney.

She's welcome to do that, within the confines of our prenup.

You are a real loser, taking advantage of this woman who obviously suffers from low self esteem as well as other problems. Anyone who would agree to such an arrangement is desperate, and you taking advantage of that and subjecting her to a life of abuse at your hands is just disgusting. There are no excuses for your behavior. You belong in jail. You are a predator.

 

[Anathema]

Basic tasks? Such as?

What do you consider "talking back?"

What you want is a slave, not a spouse.

Basic tasks such as laundry, cleaning, cooking, doing the dishes, etc..... in those two specific cases - one was a laundry issue and the other was a cleaning task. Both had been well oitlined ahead of time.

Talking back, in terms of continuing a discussion past the time a decision has been made, arguing with a decision which is not in her realm to have an opinion on (like how we spend most of our money), or just having a smart mouth about things.

I don't want a alave. I simply want, and she agrees, to be in a relationship where each of us have their duties, responsibilities and tasks. My place is to lead. Hers is to support, by her own agreement.

 

[Anathema]

You are a real loser, taking advantage of this woman who obviously suffers from low self esteem as well as other problems. Anyone who would agree to such an arrangement is desperate, and you taking advantage of that and subjecting her to a life of abuse at your hands is just disgusting. There are no excuses for your behavior. You belong in jail. You are a predator.

You say that, but don't think about the fact thst your great-grandmother probably lived a life very similar to my wife's. Though she didn't have vacuume cleaners, dishwashers or a washing machine to help her.

Not that it'll make a difference to you, vut again, in FOUR YEARS together we've only been past Step One on that list three times. Can you honestly say youve ever been in a relationship where you've only had 3 significant disagreements in a 4 year stretch of time?

 

[Valerie]

My place is to kead. Hers is to support, by her own agreement.

did you mean to say lead?

 

[ChrisL]

Basic tasks? Such as?

What do you consider "talking back?"

What you want is a slave, not a spouse.

Basic tasks such as laundry, cleaning, cooking, doing the dishes, etc..... in those two specific cases - one was a laundry issue and the other was a cleaning task. Both had been well oitlined ahead of time.

Talking back, in terms of continuing a discussion past the time a decision has been made, arguing with a decision which is not in her realm to have an opinion on (like how we spend most of our money), or just having a smart mouth about things.

I don't want a alave. I simply want, and she agrees, to be in a relationship where each of us have their duties, responsibilities and tasks. My place is to lead. Hers is to support, by her own agreement.

She is not a child. She is an adult woman. She is perfectly capable of having her own opinions and voicing them. When you marry someone, it is supposed to be a partnership where you both work together. No one is supposed to "lead." That is a sign of a dysfunctional relationship.

 

[ChrisL]

You are a real loser, taking advantage of this woman who obviously suffers from low self esteem as well as other problems. Anyone who would agree to such an arrangement is desperate, and you taking advantage of that and subjecting her to a life of abuse at your hands is just disgusting. There are no excuses for your behavior. You belong in jail. You are a predator.

You say that, but don't think about the fact thst your great-grandmother probably lived a life very similar to my wife's. Though she didn't have vacuume cleaners, dishwashers or a washing machine to help her.

Not that it'll make a difference to you, vut again, in FOUR YEARS together we've only been past Step One on that list three times. Can you honestly say youve ever been in a relationship where you've only had 3 significant disagreements in a 4 year stretch of time?

You are supposed to love her and admire her and want to make her happy and listen to her opinions on matters and consider them and value them.

 

[Anathema]

did you mean to say lead?

Yes. I'm posting from my phone this morning since I am not at home for most of the day today.

 

[ChrisL]

You are a real loser, taking advantage of this woman who obviously suffers from low self esteem as well as other problems. Anyone who would agree to such an arrangement is desperate, and you taking advantage of that and subjecting her to a life of abuse at your hands is just disgusting. There are no excuses for your behavior. You belong in jail. You are a predator.

You say that, but don't think about the fact thst your great-grandmother probably lived a life very similar to my wife's. Though she didn't have vacuume cleaners, dishwashers or a washing machine to help her.

Not that it'll make a difference to you, vut again, in FOUR YEARS together we've only been past Step One on that list three times. Can you honestly say youve ever been in a relationship where you've only had 3 significant disagreements in a 4 year stretch of time?

If you loved your wife, you would see that she isn't your property. She is a human being with feelings and value.