I haven't been excited about a potus candidate since I worked for the Reagan-Bush '84 campaign. Maturity and an inside look at politicians and politics taught me to have really low expectations of them all, even the ones I tend to agree with.
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Is there a potential Republican Candidate for Prez 2012 that anyone's excited about?
A poster on her named "USArmyRetired" is really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, 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I am seriously hoping that the GOP runs Palin.
I am also hoping that she assumes a populist stance and embraces the objections that the rank and file TEA PARTY members have been bitching about.
Of course if Palin gets the mod, I fully expect that she's tow the line of the GOP masters, and disappoint her supporters.
And yeah, that's sort of why I'd like to see here win the oval office.
Perhaps, once the TP players are betrayed, they'll start realizing that neither tthe GOP or the Dems are EVER going to really give a damned about the average American.
You Republicans loyalists need your own Obama to wake you up, too, I guess.
Palin doesn't belong within 20 miles of the White House.
I am seriously hoping that the GOP runs Palin.
I am also hoping that she assumes a populist stance and embraces the objections that the rank and file TEA PARTY members have been bitching about.
Of course if Palin gets the mod, I fully expect that she's tow the line of the GOP masters, and disappoint her supporters.
And yeah, that's sort of why I'd like to see here win the oval office.
Perhaps, once the TP players are betrayed, they'll start realizing that neither tthe GOP or the Dems are EVER going to really give a damned about the average American.
You Republicans loyalists need your own Obama to wake you up, too, I guess.
Palin doesn't belong within 20 miles of the White House.
No argument there, but then too, neither did Bush II.
So you don't subscribe to the "the worse things get the sooner the revolution" theory of how governments change?
If Palin came in on the TP populist platform, the Bluebloods who actually run the GOP would either cripple her in Congress, or have her assassinated.
If they crippled her politically, then at least the TP populists would begin understanding that they are not really on the same page as the GOP they currently support.
They would discover, just as so many centralist government leaning Dems have discovered, that the GOP isn't really all that interested in their ideas, their needs, and for that matter, what happens to the country I have absolutely no doubt most TPers love.
I like them all. Why pick one?
Mike Pence is condescending without the charisma or experience to back it up. Whatever his strengths, that's a dealkiller.
Christie's fantastic from what I can tell, but no way he runs in 2012 imo...
why wasn't Bush assassinated?
why wasn't Bush assassinated?
Cheney.
I guess we're 2 years away. That's a long time off. I'm trying to remember if I knew much about Bill Clinton in 1990. I guess not. I'm fairly sure that amongst the field of Pawlenty, Palin, Romney, Gingrich, Thune, Barbour, Jindal, there are no great candidates in the group.
How big a conspiracy are we talking here? The last time a conspiracy tried to get at several Federal officials all at once was the Lincoln assassination, and IIRC that night only one of the assassins was actually successful despite some serious planning and preparations. After 9/11 a great deal of effort was made to ensure that it was next to impossible for terrorists to hit the whole line of sucession at once.why wasn't Bush assassinated?
Cheney.
Ok, why weren't Bush, Cheney, and his whole cabinet killed? If you can get to one, you should be able to get to all of them, no?
Mike Pence is condescending without the charisma or experience to back it up. Whatever his strengths, that's a dealkiller.
Christie's fantastic from what I can tell, but no way he runs in 2012 imo...
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Quote: Originally Posted by ElephantMcDonk
Mike Pence is condescending without the charisma or experience to back it up. Whatever his strengths, that's a dealkiller.
Christie's fantastic from what I can tell, but no way he runs in 2012 imo...
That's not what others think.
'Values Voters' Pick Rep. Mike Pence for President in Straw Poll
Whoever the "Values Voters" are for, I'm for the other guy or gal. And if the "values voters" like him, he's almost certainly a condescending prick.
Lugar has such a huge reservoir of good will built up in Indiana that he is safely esconced. He has voted consistently in favor of small business, and small businesses are the backbone of Indiana's economy. Bayh finally recognized before it was too late; at first he voted mostly against SB, but he came around 180-degrees in his second term and survived. Then he drank the Obama Kool-aide and it retired him.And yeah, it's my personal perception of Pence. I'm surprised you don't think he could have Lugar's seat. Why do you say that?
Obama and Crist are, anywayRonald Reagan's ghost is a far more compelling candidate than JindalRomneyThunePawlenty, I'm voting for and contributing to Obama in 2012 and Christie or Rubio in 2016
Because Obama and Christie and Rubio are the same?
These are the reasons you haven't seen me throw his name out.I'm not going to suggest Romney would make a bad candidate or President, but I would guess that he will do what's expedient and not necessarily "right" as the previous poster posted he would.
When he ran as a Republican in Massachusetts he was pro-choice and for RomneyCare, etc.
When he was running in the primaries, he shifted right for expediency. He attempts to be a chameleon and everyone sees through it. That's his biggest problem. He's perceived as being two-faced.
Nobody likes that, especially conservative Republicans.
Obama and Crist are, anywayRonald Reagan's ghost is a far more compelling candidate than JindalRomneyThunePawlenty, I'm voting for and contributing to Obama in 2012 and Christie or Rubio in 2016
Because Obama and Christie and Rubio are the same?
Don;t know much about Christie.
Rubio doesn;t fit. Where'd that come from?