Is the state of Israel Anti-Semetic?

Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by UhihaJax, Apr 11, 2004.

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    Just a thought.
    People were getting on the the case of the film called the "Passion" because it portrayed Israeli's in a bad light.
    Can the same not be said for the state of Israel?

    State sponsered assination by helicopter with missiles. WTF????
    Okay lets say that's acceptable (well nobody says it isn't, and we're all still paying for this in the aid Israel recieves FROM EVERY ONE OF US), now why can't the LAPD fire missiles as the ghettos in South Central to get rid of drug barons?
    Same thing isn't it?
    Yeah innocent people will die, but hey, they shouldn't have been nearby, after all it's just collateral damage (i'll note that this is sarcasm just incase you dont pick up on it).

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    The LAPD can't because it's outside their jurisdiction. The U.S. military does things like this, though. Usually, they try to cover it up, since it can cause image problems.
     
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    So it's cool to do this?
    Alright, just wanted to know.
    Hey can I use an Uzi to catch a perp in an inner city area too?
     
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    Only if there are extenuating circumstances that both limit your ability to retaliate by safer means and force you to ensure that the perp is taken down right there. A shootout comes to mind.

    As for assassinating the drug lords, the U.S. tries to do it at their homes, which are typically in remote areas which nobody would ever visit unless they were associated with the drug network.

    Extremism is never a good idea. However, I think Israel was justified in killing Yassin. There may have been ways to do it that were less likely to cause civilian casualties, but they would all involve transporting Israeli soldiers through areas riddled with suicide bombers. The only other option I could think of was to use the gatling gun on the helicopter, but that would be even more dangerous. If they do this to the next guy, very few people will be lining up for the job of leading Hamas.
     
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    If you legitimise state sponsored terrorism we are in serious trouble........
    There is a thing called legal process, and if it isn't followed you get anarchy.
     
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    What in my above post called for state-sponsored terrorism. Terrorism is using fear to change policy.

    The legal process is a very necessary thing, but it's not always so cut and dried. For example, if there's a guy with an AK shooting up the city, you can't just tell him to drop his weapon and put his hands on his head. Well, you can, but chances are he won't. Then what. We've been coming up with things like bean bag guns and net launchers to get around this, but sometimes you just have to shoot him. Israel couldn't touch Yassin with their police, as it would severely endanger the officers' lives. They had to take him out from a safe distance.
     
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    Somehow I doubt it, it wouldn't qualify them for martyr status.
     
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    Yaasin, forget spelling, attacked innocent people in a low grade war, declared by two groups, Israel and Palestinians.

    War by any means within the rules are legal.

    Kill'em all, and let god and alah sort it out!
     
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    Janet reno set a house full of innocent people on fire in waco, killing them. Did that bother you?
     
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    Actually, that is because they are stupid. Jesus was a Jew, and the Romans were not. Jews and Romans BOTH killed Him, and we ALL killed Him because our sins needed repayment. False argument.

    Not really.

    State sponsored assasination aganst people taking over their nation and killing people in random bombings. Take it in context. They DO give these people money to allow them to eat, it isn't like they have declaired all out war. They are trying to react to the crimes, not exterminate the populace.

    To aid in keeping their nation alive, etc.

    A little thing called our Constitution

    No way.
     

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