Is the National Anthem Racist?

[Asclepias]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

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It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

No. It was never a celebration of slavery. Only a left wing whack job could interpret it that way. Those blacks who fought FOR THE BRITISH were ENEMIES.

Now the Blacks that fought for America in the War of 1812 and they were celebrated and honored.

Wait a minute. The confederates were traitors but you guys built statues to honor the fuckers.

What on earth does the Civil War have to do with the anthem?

I think what you meant was what does enemies in the revolution have to do with traitors in the civil war. Everything. Its called consistency. Dont be inconsistent.

I'm just sticking to the topic not being inconsistent. And BTW as a quick I can understand why many would be upset by the Confederate soldiers statues. I'm just a big buff of history though and I believe one cannot tell the whole story of how America in her infancy and with growing pains overcame the horrid practice of slavery and yet still came together to become the most amazingly free country for people of all races, religions and beliefs on the planet.

One of the most astounding historical moments is that the USA in it's infancy realized the wrong and the injustice of slavery and corrected herself far sooner than other countries on this good earth.

Sadly there are many pockets of slavery that exist still in Africa. America is by no means perfect but compared to so many others, the US is head and shoulders above the rest.

Slavery still exists here in the US too. Matter of fact if you check the constitution its still legal.

 

[Asclepias]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

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It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

But if we left there would be no one to give you food stamps.

We dont use foodstamps here in Silicon Valley. If we left you guys wouldnt be able to use the internet.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

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It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

Your Communist views are incompatible with life in America, take CA and get the fuck out. Within 5 years we'll buy back CA for 2 cents on the dollar

 

[Conservative65]

You should get that published.

Then Trump will win 35 States in 2020, instead of 30.

Whites are fed up with this entire racist crap. The Illegals, the Beaners,
the Jaboni's...the fuckin' ragheads. The whining of every frickin' one
of them is not being tolerated anymore.

We're done with that shit.

You do have a point. I wish we'd get race the fuck out of our political debate and refocus on economic issues. That is the only chance the democrats have.

Not if you keep supporting the bullshit economic policies you've been supporting.

 

[Conservative65]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

But if we left there would be no one to give you food stamps.

We dont use foodstamps here in Silicon Valley. If we left you guys wouldnt be able to use the internet.

Those like you that clean the toilets and sweep the floors do. That's what happens when you offer such low skills and bleeding heart Liberals feel sorry for your stupid ass.

 

[Asclepias]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

But if we left there would be no one to give you food stamps.

Within 5 years The Progressive Nation of CA will be begging for a bailout and will be in the process of being carved up by the Mexican to the South and Canadians to the north

Not likely. There is reason we have the highest standard of living and a economy that is larger than most countries.

 

[Asclepias]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

Your Communist views are incompatible with life in America, take CA and get the fuck out. Within 5 years we'll buy back CA for 2 cents on the dollar

Where CA goes the world let alone america goes. Bumfuck TN no one cares about.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

Your Communist views are incompatible with life in America, take CA and get the fuck out. Within 5 years we'll buy back CA for 2 cents on the dollar

Where CA goes the world let alone america goes. Bumfuck TN no one cares about.

LOL! You'll run CA into the dirt far faster than you Progressive fucked up Venezuela. It took almost 2 decades to destroy Venezuela, you'll destroy CA in under 5 years

 

[g5000]

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

The Brits hired mercenaries and slaves that they took from American plantations to be soldiers in the American Revolution, and that is a fact.

The British did not take the slaves. They offered the slaves their freedom in exchange for fighting on their side.

Key's song celebrates the defeat of the slaves fighting for their freedom, as well as the defeat of mercenaries fighting for the British.

Another fact is that Francis Scott Key was a rabid believer in slavery. As District Attorney, he once tried to have a man hanged for distributing abolitionist pamphlets.

 

[g5000]

What are the racist lines in the song? Specifically.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave

 

[g5000]

From page 220 of
Snow-Storm in August: The Struggle for American Freedom and Washington's Race Riot of 1835

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What are the racist lines in the song? Specifically.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave

Never heard that once anywhere in any venue for almost half a century, StrawMan

 

[g5000]

Francis Scott Key's argument for hanging a man for distributing abolitionist pamphlets was that such material incited slaves to violence against their owners.

 

[Asclepias]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

Your Communist views are incompatible with life in America, take CA and get the fuck out. Within 5 years we'll buy back CA for 2 cents on the dollar

Where CA goes the world let alone america goes. Bumfuck TN no one cares about.

LOL! You'll run CA into the dirt far faster than you Progressive fucked up Venezuela. It took almost 2 decades to destroy Venezuela, you'll destroy CA in under 5 years

CA has been progressive for multiple decades. Like I said. You wouldnt be able to access this forum without us helping you.

 

[g5000]

What are the racist lines in the song? Specifically.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave

Never heard that once anywhere in any venue for almost half a century, StrawMan

Your ignorance of American history is your fault. Can't be helped.

 

[g5000]

In the Declaration of Independence, there is the line that "all men are created equal".

This line was written by a slave owner.

And as has been pointed out, our national anthem was written by a virulent defender of slavery who wrote a line celebrating the deaths of slaves fighting for their freedom.

Over time, our country has slowly grown to fulfill the aspirations of our founding principles. We were a nation less perfect then we are now, but our forefathers laid the foundation for that growth. They set very high goals of which they were very aware that they themselves did not meet.

I think that we have achieved many of those goals is something which can allow us to read the Declaration aloud with pride, and sing our national anthem with gusto.


But to deny historical fact out of misplaced obtuseness is stupid. It is willful blindness which fails to realize how we got to where we are now and where we still need to go.

 

[Lakhota]

#TakeAKnee Isn’t About The Flag. It’s About America’s Racism.

Amen!

Bull fucking shit. The left wing whackos are insane. Think about it. Quizzillionaire black players bitching about racism is a bad freaking joke.

Says a Canadian fruitcake. They have every right to express their 1st Amendment rights. Where was the outrage when Tim Tebow was taking a knee?

I'm dual asshole and you know it. As far as expressing their rights why were the Dallas Cowboys not allowed to show support for the slain officers in their city? Why? Because it was against the rules.

Flashback: NFL wouldn't allow Cowboys to wear decal supporting Dallas police on their helmets

Flashback: NFL wouldn't allow Cowboys to wear decal supporting Dallas police on their helmets

Funny. What "decals" have black NFL players asked to wear on their "helmets"?

 

[katsteve2012]

Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

The continuing refusal by the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick to stand during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games has set off a debate about patriotism, protest and professional sports. But it has also raised another fraught question: Is our national anthem itself racist?

The journalist Jon Schwarz, writing in The Intercept, argued yes, denouncing the lyrics, written by Francis Scott Key during the War of 1812, as “a celebration of slavery.” How could black players, Mr. Schwarz asked, be expected to stand for a song whose rarely sung third stanza — which includes the lines “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” — “literally celebrates the murder of African-Americans”?

More: Is the National Anthem Racist? Beyond the Debate Over Colin Kaepernick

It could certainly be interpreted as racist. What do you think?

I beg you, please take CA and get the fuck out of America

You take bumfuck trailer park TN and get the fuck out of america.

Take Appalachia too.l

 

[Peach]

The racists are out in DROVES. Tell the man below:
___________________________________

97-year-old WWII vet goes viral after 'taking a knee' to support NFL players

 

[Lakhota]

The racists are out in DROVES. Tell the man below:
___________________________________

97-year-old WWII vet goes viral after 'taking a knee' to support NFL players

Amen! He fought for that right.