Zone1 Is swearing protected by freedom of speech and freedom of press?

[progressive hunter]

You’re living in the land of extreme examples and exceptions to the rule. It’s a weak place to sit. But hey it’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. We can agree to disagree.

so are you telling me even though these cops exist we should just ignore it and hope for the best??

 

[Mr. Friscus]

so are you telling me even though these cops exist we should just ignore it and hope for the best??

What is your solution? There are bad apples in every profession.

Defund the police?

 

[progressive hunter]

What is your solution? There are bad apples in every profession.

Defund the police?

well considering the police is voluntary and they took a sworn oath to protect and defend the constitution and our rights,,
how about we hold them to a higher standard and not dismiss their actions that cause great harm to otherwise innocent people,,

then maybe we can have a discussion about better training while weed out the bullies and see what that gets us,,,

 

[Mr. Friscus]

how about we hold them to a higher standard and not dismiss their actions that cause great harm to otherwise innocent people,,

Okay, how?

then maybe we can have a discussion about better training while weed out the bullies and see what that gets us,,,

Finally, a suggested actual action.

The problem is, there’s a massive decrease in people wanting to become officers because of how much they’ve not only been demonized by leftists, BLM, democrats, and the MSM… but in some instances put in jail for upholding the law but on someone of the wrong race.

Many Good people don’t want to go into a profession with so much baggage.. they already put their lives on the line, but now aren’t appreciated for it and only maligned and/or jailed? Good luck

 

[progressive hunter]

Okay, how?

Finally, a suggested actual action.

The problem is, there’s a massive decrease in people wanting to become officers because of how much they’ve not only been demonized by leftists, BLM, democrats, and the MSM… but in some instances put in jail for upholding the law but on someone of the wrong race.

Many Good people don’t want to go into a profession with so much baggage.. they already put their lives on the line, but now aren’t appreciated for it and only maligned and/or jailed? Good luck

sounds like youre against taking any action to reduce the failures of law enforcement to properly do their jobs,,,

 

[Mr. Friscus]

sounds like youre against taking any action to reduce the failures of law enforcement to properly do their jobs,,,

I don’t know how to aim for zero sum results, no.

You’re going to have bad apples in any batch

 

[progressive hunter]

I don’t know how to aim for zero sum results, no.

You’re going to have bad apples in any batch

has it crossed your mind that if cops got better training and didnt abuse peoples rights and lie to people that havent committed a crime their acceptance might increase and fewer people dislike them???

 

[Mr. Friscus]

has it crossed your mind that if cops got better training and didnt abuse peoples rights and lie to people that havent committed a crime their acceptance might increase and fewer people dislike them???

I think most regular people appreciate and like the police, and are glad they exist to protect them.

It’s the leftists, media, democrats, etc that promote disdain for the entire police institution that is the problem, because of phantom “systemic racism” claims to explain the massive crime in the black community. These are true attempts to divide Americans… And you’re hand in hand with them.

 

[progressive hunter]

I think most regular people appreciate and like the police, and are glad they exist to protect them.

It’s the leftists, media, democrats, etc that promote disdain for the entire police institution that is the problem, because of phantom “systemic racism” claims to explain the massive crime in the black community. These are true attempts to divide Americans… And you’re hand in hand with them.

so it hasnt crossed your mind,,,

as long as we have cops that dont respect our rights and continue to work outside their authority or be abusive cops will always be consider the enemy,,

after all they think of us as the enemy,,

 

[Mr. Friscus]

so it hasnt crossed your mind,,,

as long as we have cops that dont respect our rights and continue to work outside their authority or be abusive cops will always be consider the enemy,,

after all they think of us as the enemy,,

There are individual bad apples in every aspect of life, every profession: doctors, teachers, etc. the same will be in law enforcement.

Welcome to life on planet earth.

 

[progressive hunter]

There are individual bad apples in every aspect of life, every profession: doctors, teachers, etc. the same will be in law enforcement.

Welcome to life on planet earth.

these are trained professionals sworn to do a job in a specific way,, who also volunteered to abide their oaths,,

I consider it a violation of public trust and depending on the intensity of the unlawful actions, dereliction of duty and should be jailed,,

 

[lennypartiv]

This happened in Italy.

So did this:

---Does it count as sexual harassment if an assault lasts less than 10 seconds? Many young people in Italy are expressing outrage on social media, after a judge cleared a school caretaker of groping a teenager, because it did not last long enough.---

Italian uproar over judge's 10-second groping rule

Young Italians object to the acquittal of a school caretaker who admitted groping a teenage student.

www.bbc.com

 

[lennypartiv]

No, shocking that you have such a warped view of an institution

Cops used to back each other up even when one of them did something wrong. Fortunately the introduction of body cameras is changing that.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So did this:

---Does it count as sexual harassment if an assault lasts less than 10 seconds? Many young people in Italy are expressing outrage on social media, after a judge cleared a school caretaker of groping a teenager, because it did not last long enough.---

Italian uproar over judge's 10-second groping rule

Young Italians object to the acquittal of a school caretaker who admitted groping a teenage student.

www.bbc.com

Yeah, and this has nothing to do with the topic...

 

[Blues Man]

Small towns can get away with smaller police forces.. but you still have one, and if you didn’t have one at all the bad people would take advantage. The threat of police intervention goes a long way, in a good way.

So then why do so many cops go out of their way to aid the public?

I doubt that everyone around me knows they have to protect themselves because it would take any cop at least 20 minutes to get out to my neighborhood if they came out ay all.

How many is" so many"?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

How many is" so many"?

Most.

 

[Blues Man]

Most.

So 50% +1

That's not so great

 

[Mr. Friscus]

So 50% +1

That's not so great

No, not that, but go ahead and stay in semantics

 

[Blues Man]

No, not that, but go ahead and stay in semantics

That is the very definition of "most"

Maybe you should choose your words more wisely.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Roberto Saviano fined for insulting Italian PM Giorgia Meloni

Roberto Saviano's comments were made in relation to Italian leader Giorgia Meloni's views on migration.

www.bbc.com

This happened in Italy.

"Roberto Saviano fined for insulting Italian PM Giorgia Meloni"

Clearly this person could easily have said what they wanted to say without using an insult.

Every right is limited. But how limited is always going to depend on where the line is....

When it comes to the press, do they have certain responsibilities that they should stick to, like "no swearing" because kids might read it, AND because journalists are supposed to be more intelligent than that.

When it comes to Europe, it's called, "Freedom of expression", or in American speak, "Freedom of Speech". But the difference between Europe and America is, you have to have a brain in Europe when you say something because if you get challenged in court, you have to take responsibility for what you say.

In America, talk shite and claim shite with fuck all evidence, and it doesn't matter. In Europe, the responsible stay out of the court process.