Is Panetta The Next 'Problem'?

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  1. Annie
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    This is quickly becoming a farce:

    Will Leon Panetta be the next body under Obama's bus? | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

    CIA Panetta's fees: Defense, banking: The Swamp

    They thought Daschel fine, right up to the last hours. :rolleyes:
     
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    Unfortunately, most ex politicians on both sides hang around Washington to make big bucks.

    At least, whoever, serves in Obama's cabinet won't be able to do this for two years after he leaves office in 2016. That is more than any other prez has mandated.

    We will probably never really clean up the crap there since the people with the brooms are the ones who will make the money.
     
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    Finding a long term play on the Washington scene who is not dirty in one way or the other is rather difficult, isn't it?

    But hey, when editec notes that we are in a class war, and that the servants of the ruling classes have been in a revolving door from power in government to powerful positions where they petition the government on the behalf of their corporate masters, I'm thought to be an envious outsider who is overstating the problem.

    Registered lobbyists are the least of our problems, folks.

    It's the lobbyists who are not registered who weld the greatest power, and it becomes difficult to find players who know how things work (because they've been in the game for years) who have not benefitted personally and in ways that make them look dirty to put into positions of power.

    I'm not in any way trying to make excuses for Obmama here, I'm just noting that the system is so dirty, that Obama's task is similar to the task that Diogenes set out for himself.

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    Of course they will, and there's nothing Obama can do about it.
     
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    There is no class war and there is no ruling class in America. These are 19th century ideas that that sought to describe 19th century European, mostly Germany and Britain, nations. If you look at the leaders of US industries, few of them were born into privilege; they nearly all started from the same place where the people who work for them started, but they were smarter and more ambitious and so became more successful than their neighbors did. Wherever you look in America, whether in business or politics or anywhere else, with few exceptions the people who wield power worked their way up from modest beginnings into positions of power and there are no barriers to prevent other people born into modest circumstances with talent and ambition from working their ways into these same positions. It's time to stop complaining about 19th century European phantoms and to recognize America is very close to being the true meritocracy the most liberal of the founding fathers envisioned; we are one class and whether you rise to the top of that class or settle somewhere below depends almost entirely on your native talent and ambition and perhaps a bit of luck.
     

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