Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?

[Wyatt earp]

Even countries that have legalized prostitution there is still illegal prostitution. There is no way to fully legalize prostitution and eliminate the detrimental issues of illegal prostitution.

While there is certainly instances where women are forced into prostitution, by far and away most whores are whores voluntarily. Women are allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Read where most prostitutes come from. 60 odd % are from homes where they were abused by fathers and step fathers. Many more have to be to earn enough for their drug addictions. And today many major center has a fleet of slave prostitutes.

Tell us again how it is all about free choice.

Regards
DL

Which major center in America has fleets of legal slave prostitutes? Link?

That's easy see >>>> Hillary Clinton and the rest of the club in Washington D.C.

 

[jillian]

Keep kids away from all internet access devices by law until age 16.

and they do their homework how?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Keep kids away from all internet access devices by law until age 16.

and they do their homework how?

The library?

 

[Katzndogz]

Even countries that have legalized prostitution there is still illegal prostitution. There is no way to fully legalize prostitution and eliminate the detrimental issues of illegal prostitution.

While there is certainly instances where women are forced into prostitution, by far and away most whores are whores voluntarily. Women are allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Read where most prostitutes come from. 60 odd % are from homes where they were abused by fathers and step fathers. Many more have to be to earn enough for their drug addictions. And today many major center has a fleet of slave prostitutes.

Tell us again how it is all about free choice.

Regards
DL

I do not agree that most prostitutes come from homes where they have been abused. But, assume that is true for the limited purpose of this discussion. Women who come from homes where they have been abused don't lose the ability to make bad life decisions. A drug addict already making the poor decision to use drugs is not worse off by making other bad choices.

If prostitution were legal and a woman made the decision to work in a legal brothel, should have a background as an abuse victim preclude her employment?

 

[danielpalos]

would the Capitalism of prostitution be an issue if women were more moral for free, socially, and insisted on the privilege and immunity of being able to simply come up to us when it is the best time to use them and insist that nice girl friends do, simply Because, Only bad girls lie to us and let us miss our turn.

 

[koshergrl]

Even countries that have legalized prostitution there is still illegal prostitution. There is no way to fully legalize prostitution and eliminate the detrimental issues of illegal prostitution.

While there is certainly instances where women are forced into prostitution, by far and away most whores are whores voluntarily. Women are allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Read where most prostitutes come from. 60 odd % are from homes where they were abused by fathers and step fathers. Many more have to be to earn enough for their drug addictions. And today many major center has a fleet of slave prostitutes.

Tell us again how it is all about free choice.

Regards
DL

I do not agree that most prostitutes come from homes where they have been abused. But, assume that is true for the limited purpose of this discussion. Women who come from homes where they have been abused don't lose the ability to make bad life decisions. A drug addict already making the poor decision to use drugs is not worse off by making other bad choices.

If prostitution were legal and a woman made the decision to work in a legal brothel, should have a background as an abuse victim preclude her employment?

You're really, really wrong on this.

 

[OnePercenter]

Is that the only authority you'll believe?

PP acolytes only believe what is fed to them by PP propagandists.

I reckon porn acolytes only believe what is fed to them by the porn industry PR men.

Is that a yes or a no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

I typically don't answer nonsensical questions that serve no purpose except to illustrate the idiocy of the person asking the question.

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

 

[Katzndogz]

Even countries that have legalized prostitution there is still illegal prostitution. There is no way to fully legalize prostitution and eliminate the detrimental issues of illegal prostitution.

While there is certainly instances where women are forced into prostitution, by far and away most whores are whores voluntarily. Women are allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Read where most prostitutes come from. 60 odd % are from homes where they were abused by fathers and step fathers. Many more have to be to earn enough for their drug addictions. And today many major center has a fleet of slave prostitutes.

Tell us again how it is all about free choice.

Regards
DL

I do not agree that most prostitutes come from homes where they have been abused. But, assume that is true for the limited purpose of this discussion. Women who come from homes where they have been abused don't lose the ability to make bad life decisions. A drug addict already making the poor decision to use drugs is not worse off by making other bad choices.

If prostitution were legal and a woman made the decision to work in a legal brothel, should have a background as an abuse victim preclude her employment?

You're really, really wrong on this.

No. I'm right. I am not ideologically blind. Have you ever known a prostitute or a porn star? They are far from victims. Some are victims. Some are beaten up, drugged up and turned out by pimps. Most aren't. Most are women either making a living or making part time money.

You have this organization that has endless frightening sob stories of varying degrees of truthfulness.

The only truth is, no matter what is done, laws passed, punishment meted out, there will always be prostitutes.

 

[HUGGY]

I have an idea that could get traction.

What if armed with studies on the negative effects of porn the Surgeon General started a campaign against porn on the basis of it's effects on mental health?

The government COULD shame the participants into seeking counseling to reverse the effects of those addicted to pornography.

 

[koshergrl]

Even countries that have legalized prostitution there is still illegal prostitution. There is no way to fully legalize prostitution and eliminate the detrimental issues of illegal prostitution.

While there is certainly instances where women are forced into prostitution, by far and away most whores are whores voluntarily. Women are allowed to make their own bad decisions.

Read where most prostitutes come from. 60 odd % are from homes where they were abused by fathers and step fathers. Many more have to be to earn enough for their drug addictions. And today many major center has a fleet of slave prostitutes.

Tell us again how it is all about free choice.

Regards
DL

I do not agree that most prostitutes come from homes where they have been abused. But, assume that is true for the limited purpose of this discussion. Women who come from homes where they have been abused don't lose the ability to make bad life decisions. A drug addict already making the poor decision to use drugs is not worse off by making other bad choices.

If prostitution were legal and a woman made the decision to work in a legal brothel, should have a background as an abuse victim preclude her employment?

You're really, really wrong on this.

No. I'm right. I am not ideologically blind. Have you ever known a prostitute or a porn star? They are far from victims. Some are victims. Some are beaten up, drugged up and turned out by pimps. Most aren't. Most are women either making a living or making part time money.

You have this organization that has endless frightening sob stories of varying degrees of truthfulness.

The only truth is, no matter what is done, laws passed, punishment meted out, there will always be prostitutes.

That's not an argument. There will always be child abuse and murder, too. So what? And the majority of abused women do downplay their abuse. That's a universal fact. They are conditioned to believe they enjoy or want abuse. But women in the porn industry are pathetic, damaged, doped, degraded and abused women who are cheated, hurt, lied to and exploited. The porn industry is so entwined with human trafficking it's impossible to separate them.

 

[koshergrl]

I have an idea that could get traction.

What if armed with studies on the negative effects of porn the Surgeon General started a campaign against porn on the basis of it's effects on mental health?

The government COULD shame the participants into seeking counseling to reverse the effects of those addicted to pornography.

Pfft. Why mess with the fake science when there's plenty of evidence that it poses a clear, extreme physical threat???

 

[RKMBrown]

Is that a yes or a no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

I typically don't answer nonsensical questions that serve no purpose except to illustrate the idiocy of the person asking the question.

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

 

[OnePercenter]

I typically don't answer nonsensical questions that serve no purpose except to illustrate the idiocy of the person asking the question.

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

So your point is that prostitution should be legal in all 50 states?

 

[koshergrl]

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

So your point is that prostitution should be legal in all 50 states?

And that women enjoy being raped, drugged and injured for his enjoyment. They think it's fun.

 

[HUGGY]

I have an idea that could get traction.

What if armed with studies on the negative effects of porn the Surgeon General started a campaign against porn on the basis of it's effects on mental health?

The government COULD shame the participants into seeking counseling to reverse the effects of those addicted to pornography.

Pfft. Why mess with the fake science when there's plenty of evidence that it poses a clear, extreme physical threat???

Who said anything about "fake" science?

I'm just suggesting accessing an authority that could do something about it.

Face it. There will be no laws against pornography. What we are talking about is an activity that stimulates the libido and the imagination and sometimes progresses to masturbation.

There is no way to prove that pornography is dangerous to the public at large. There are already laws that prohibit pornography that have under age children in them. That is only because it involves the minors. As long as the participants are adults there will be no laws enacted.

Do you have a better suggestion? One that has a chance of success?

 

[HUGGY]

Is that a yes or a no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

I typically don't answer nonsensical questions that serve no purpose except to illustrate the idiocy of the person asking the question.

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

Blaming one political party or another as a foundation to make progress in controlling internet porn is just what is NOT NEEDED. How do you plan on getting any useful traction by playing a blame game?

Must you people always descend to this level when discussing a real problem that will require co-operation to do anything about?

One thing that some here and in other venues must learn to do is respect those that are needed to get attention and progress in solving some of these social issues.

 

[RKMBrown]

Yes or no? Do you or do you not speak for the porn industry?

You can't make statements like and I quote... "there are no women in the porn industry who aren't being abused and exploited" if you don't speak even for ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THE PORN INDUSTRY. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

So your point is that prostitution should be legal in all 50 states?

States rights issue so no. If you want to live in a state that stones sinners, whatever.

 

[RKMBrown]

Here's a weird question: why is it legal/OK for someone to pay Bill and Mary to have sex on camera in order to sell porn videos - they even file tax returns as sex workers - but it is illegal for Bill to pay Mary directly to have sex, that's prostitution?

Is a woman doing what is illegal a form of abuse?

Regards
DL

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

So your point is that prostitution should be legal in all 50 states?

And that women enjoy being raped, drugged and injured for his enjoyment. They think it's fun.

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[koshergrl]

The reason prostitution is illegal, is the morality police are a bunch of authoritarians jerks that need to get out of everyone else's business. We're supposed to be this free country.. but that's a myth. We live under the soft tyranny of the democrat/republican two headed snake.

Prostitution was legalized under Democratic rule in Nevada. Currently, Democrats are pushing for legalize prostitution in Clark County, so be careful of what you say about Democrats.

What part of Authoritarians and democrat/republican two headed snake confused you?

So your point is that prostitution should be legal in all 50 states?

And that women enjoy being raped, drugged and injured for his enjoyment. They think it's fun.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Not a thing. I don't give money to an industry that works hand in glove with human traffickers to abuse and trade in human flesh.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?

These scholars and experts are at the forefront of this research. Apologies but you will have to listen to at least one of these clips to get what this O.P. is all about.

http://www.upworthy.com/some-tips-for-how-to-talk-to-your-teen-about-watching-porn-hint-its-not-to-tell-them-to-stop?c=reccon2
http://www.ted.com/talks/zimchallenge?language=en
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKAehegqTvg&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

Is it possible that in sexual matters, the right wing conservatives might be ahead of the left wing in their thinking?

If not, then what should the left do to help us save our children from the indoctrination via internet porn into unhealthy and unwanted sexual habits? Or have them not be able to perform without porn?

I consider myself left wing but I think we may be going a tad far and should move to the right on this issue due to things like you saw in the clips above as well as what is shown in this clip below.



At one time, parents would have closed any shop that gave access to the young to porn. Yet today, parents do not seem to care and as more and more young children get cell phones, parental prohibition will be impossible.

Have parents forgotten how to parent and are men and women willing to allow the status quo to ruin the sexuality of the next generation?

"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime." - Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart

To date, I have lived by the above quote. I do not lack confidence in our adult population but see this issue as more of a medical one and I am willing to censure for our children's sake.

Some Eastern countries have used censorship to gain control of what their children can access. Should the West do the same?

Are our children worth it?

Regards
DL

I think education is the key here. If you teach kids how to be decent parents, have kids learn to think for themselves and make judgements on what is right and wrong at an early age, by the time they're parents they'll already have a clear idea of how they want to be as parents.

Absolutely. But have you seen what we are presently producing and what makes you think this generation of parents can or want to do better than the last?

That aside.

Education is good but would likely only help 1/2 of the 50% who are presently harmed by internet porn. Boys will be boys after all.

Are we to ignore the other half or just cure them after they have screwed up a few years of their lives?

Regards
DL

Yes, I've seen what is currently coming out. But, how can you change this? You can't.

Education is such an important policy, and one that almost never gets taken seriously by politicians.

Boys will be boys, but if they're limited in what they can get, then they won't be so much boys.

Should we ignore? No, but at the same time you have to start from somewhere. The US way is to say "oh, we can't solve the problem right now, so we won't try and solve it for the future either."