Quantum Windbag
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So other than the word of a few people what evidence contradicts the "born that way" crowd?The APA lists no known causes for homosexual, thoughthere are some hypotheses. What do you think and why?
The APA is not a scientific organization, despite their claims, why do you use them as a source in the first place.
Studies on monozygotic twins have shown a correlation in sexual preference, but the fact that it is not 100% conclusively proves that it is not genetic. Since we know it is not genetic, and no actual evidence exists to prove that we are controlled by evil aliens from Planet X, I chose to believe that it is a choice. The fact that there are actually people out there who have stated that they have made that choice is also evidence that supports my opinion. The people that reject that we make that choice are, essentially, calling everyone who states they made a choice liars based on nothing other than their own prejudices.
They are the ones that have to live with their bigotry, I prefer to believe people unless the evidence contradicts them.
The fact that there are actually people out there who have stated that they were born that way" is also evidence that goes against your opinion. Anecdotal evidence isn't very strong.
And just because it isn't genetic doesn't mean you aren't born that way. Dexterity isn't genetic.
What evidence do you have to back up your claims about the APA?
Do you have some reason to think the people that say they made a choice are lying? Delusional? Something else? Maybe you think it is a coordinated conspiracy.
The problem in rejecting anecdotal evidence is that you still have to deal with the fact that people actually believe what they are saying. It might not be scientific, but I don't base my opinion in anecdotal evidence alone. I base it on the actual scientific evidence that free will exists, and that there are no genetic, or any other type of marker, including different brain development, of homosexuality that doesn't also occur in the heterosexual population. That, in my opinion, places the burden on the people who insist that we do not have a choice.
By the way, you are right that dexterity isn't genetic, it is a learned behavior. The proof of that is that, if you lose your dominant hand, even temporarily, you can learn to use the other just as well.
As for the APA, you should read this.
Two Who Resigned From DSM-5 Explain Why | Psychology Today
If they reject science in their most important publication, how can you claim that the organization is scientific?