Is Hamas a terrorist organization?

[Jos]

Arabs are a race, Palestine is a country, currently occupied by violent jewish immigrants

 

[docmauser1]

Arabs are a race, Palestine is a country,

Cool. Arabs are a race, Egypt is a country. Conclusion, Egypt isn't arab.

currently occupied by violent jewish immigrants

So, who was that shakh, emir, sultan, efendi, president, prime-minister, who ruled that "country" to claim "occupation-schmuckupation"?

 

[Roudy]

Today, few people flying in to Ben Gurion airport (which serves Tel Aviv) realize that it was formerly Lydda airport. During the British mandate Lydda was a major town and designated Palestinian in the Partition. In July 1948 Israeli terrorist troops shot up the town and drove out the Arab population, Muslims and Christians alike. Donald Neff The Washington Report: Expulsion of the Palestinians- Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 tells how, in an orgy of ethnic cleansing, the Israelis massacred 426 men, women, and children. 176 of them were slaughtered in the town’s main mosque. For the lurid details see http://www.palestineremembered.com/al-Ramla/al-Lydd/index.html.

Out of the 19,000 residents only 1,052 were allowed to stay. The remainder were forced to walk into exile in the scalding July heat leaving a trail of bodies – men, women and children – along the way.

The bloody assault on Lydda was witnessed by two American news correspondents. One recorded that “practically everything in their way died. Riddled corpses lay by the roadside.” The other wrote that he saw “the corpses of Arab men, women and even children strewn about in the wake of the ruthlessly brilliant charge”.

Then the looting: Israeli troops reportedly carried away 1,800 truck loads of Palestinian property. Jewish immigrants flooded in and Lydda was given a Hebrew name, Lod.

It can be argued that Israel has no legitimate right to Lydda/Lod/Ben Gurion airport – it was stolen in a murderous terror raid as were so many other Palestinian towns and villages. But keep it under your hat. Rabbi Noam Marans wouldn’t want American understanding of the situation, so carefully shaped and nourished by the pro-Israel lobby, to change.

As long as the Israel defies the codes of civilised conduct and denies millions their freedom its right to exist is bound to be challenged. If only the regime had behaved decently, honestly and truthfully from the start, things would have been so different.

And so would the prospects for world peace.

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/06/25/decent-honest-and-truthful/

Bullshit website that uses the good name of veterans to deceive people. IslamoNazis have no shame.

Bacheh koony.

 

[Roudy]

Arabs are a race, Palestine is a country, currently occupied by violent jewish immigrants

Palestine is a country? When was that, xxxx?


sorry. can't use that word even in arabic except in the flame zone

 

[Roudy]

This coin from the time does not say Arab, it says Palestine

Palestine British mandate and the coin has Hebrew on it, you illiterate fuckwad.

 

[Roudy]

No? You're basically the paid propagandist for HMas on this board. I think that's pretty well established.

Links?

Alright, here we go, simple question simple answer: is Hamas a terrorist organization or does it engage in terrorist activities ie targetting and killing of Israeli civilians. Yes or no? One word.

Gee I wonder where tinmore went?!

 

[Jos]

The British ruled Palestine under a mandate, the local inhabitants where driven out by the invading Russian jews, Ashkenazim who are not Semites. They are descended of Eastern European Khazar's, and they have come to hold most of the political power in Israel today. Their people didn't even become Jews until the 8th century.

 

[docmauser1]

The British ruled Palestine under a mandate, the local inhabitants where driven out by the invading Russian jews, Ashkenazim who are not Semites. They are descended of Eastern European Khazar's, and they have come to hold most of the political power in Israel today. Their people didn't even become Jews until the 8th century.

In memorable words of Walid Shoebat "As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today’s Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today’s Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants."

 

[Jos]

LOL Walid Shoebat, who makes money telling lies?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c70o1RccxDU]Walid Shoebat Exposed: he is a Liar and Fraud - YouTube[/ame]

 

[docmauser1]

LOL Walid Shoebat, who makes money telling lies?

Oh, bog off with those silly excuses! In memorable words of Jacob De Haas "In 1860, entire Algerian tribes immigrated en masse to Safed. The Muslims of Safed, are mostly descended from these Moorish settlers and from Kurds that came earlier to the city."

 

[Roudy]

Arabs are a race, Palestine is a country, currently occupied by violent jewish immigrants

Palestine is a country? When was that, xxxx?


sorry. can't use that word even in arabic except in the flame zone

Um, A- it's not Arabic, it's Farsi.
B-It's a swear word just like all the other ones that are being used by other posters in their responses to each other. Next time it wouldn't hurt to check?

Geezus, these IslamoNazis, all they do is whine whine whine. Ha ha ha!

 

[Roudy]

Justice Goldstone's comments were done in an op-ed published by the Washington Post, there was no "retracted final version". The "Report" still stands in its entirety. In addition, Goldstone was only commenting on one incident the IDF investigated about deliberately targetting civilians as a matter of policy.
That was just one incident in an op-ed, that's not a retraction of the UN report. It should also be noted, that the other two members that co-authored the report, have not retracted anything.

So the original report stands and you're as guilty as sin.

BTW, Goldstone did say the report would've been more accurate, if the Israeli's would've cooperated with the Mission and allowed access to IDF personel who took part in the operation. But they wouldn't allow access. Which means, they have something to hide.

If it will make you feel any better, Hamas was just as bad on the cooperation scale.

Nope, the retraction found that Hamas lied, and a terrorist organization is a terrorist organization, and therefore cannot be trusted.

Reconsidering the Goldstone Report on Israel and war crimes - The Washington Post

Reconsidering The Goldstone Report
By Richard Goldstone

Some have suggested that it was absurd to expect Hamas, an organization that has a policy to destroy the state of Israel, to investigate what we said were serious war crimes. It was my hope, even if unrealistic, that Hamas would do so, especially if Israel conducted its own investigations. At minimum I hoped that in the face of a clear finding that its members were committing serious war crimes, Hamas would curtail its attacks. Sadly, that has not been the case. Hundreds more rockets and mortar rounds have been directed at civilian targets in southern Israel. That comparatively few Israelis have been killed by the unlawful rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza in no way minimizes the criminality. The U.N. Human Rights Council should condemn these heinous acts in the strongest terms. In the end, asking Hamas to investigate may have been a mistaken enterprise. So, too, the Human Rights Council should condemn the inexcusable and cold-blooded recent slaughter of a young Israeli couple and three of their small children in their beds.

The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry. Regrettably, there has been no effort by Hamas in Gaza to investigate the allegations of its war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. Simply put, the laws of armed conflict apply no less to non-state actors such as Hamas than they do to national armies. Ensuring that non-state actors respect these principles, and are investigated when they fail to do so, is one of the most significant challenges facing the law of armed conflict. Only if all parties to armed conflicts are held to these standards will we be able to protect civilians who, through no choice of their own, are caught up in war.

The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry.

And those abuses continue today. Who even mentions that?

Indeed they do, by Hamas. Who mentions that?

You didn't answer my yes or no question, is Hamas a terrorist organization or not?

 

[Saigon]

B-It's a swear word just like all the other ones that are being used by other posters in their responses to each other. Next time it wouldn't hurt to check?

Geezus, these IslamoNazis, all they do is whine whine whine. Ha ha ha!

Actually, the only posters I see here really throwing abuse around is you and Rhodes.

Take a little responsibility for what you post, and give the off-topic abuse a rest, eh?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nope, the retraction found that Hamas lied, and a terrorist organization is a terrorist organization, and therefore cannot be trusted.

Reconsidering the Goldstone Report on Israel and war crimes - The Washington Post

Reconsidering The Goldstone Report
By Richard Goldstone

Some have suggested that it was absurd to expect Hamas, an organization that has a policy to destroy the state of Israel, to investigate what we said were serious war crimes. It was my hope, even if unrealistic, that Hamas would do so, especially if Israel conducted its own investigations. At minimum I hoped that in the face of a clear finding that its members were committing serious war crimes, Hamas would curtail its attacks. Sadly, that has not been the case. Hundreds more rockets and mortar rounds have been directed at civilian targets in southern Israel. That comparatively few Israelis have been killed by the unlawful rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza in no way minimizes the criminality. The U.N. Human Rights Council should condemn these heinous acts in the strongest terms. In the end, asking Hamas to investigate may have been a mistaken enterprise. So, too, the Human Rights Council should condemn the inexcusable and cold-blooded recent slaughter of a young Israeli couple and three of their small children in their beds.

The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry. Regrettably, there has been no effort by Hamas in Gaza to investigate the allegations of its war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. Simply put, the laws of armed conflict apply no less to non-state actors such as Hamas than they do to national armies. Ensuring that non-state actors respect these principles, and are investigated when they fail to do so, is one of the most significant challenges facing the law of armed conflict. Only if all parties to armed conflicts are held to these standards will we be able to protect civilians who, through no choice of their own, are caught up in war.

The Palestinian Authority established an independent inquiry into our allegations of human rights abuses — assassinations, torture and illegal detentions — perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank, especially against members of Hamas. Most of those allegations were confirmed by this inquiry.

And those abuses continue today. Who even mentions that?

Indeed they do, by Hamas. Who mentions that?

You didn't answer my yes or no question, is Hamas a terrorist organization or not?

perpetrated by Fatah in the West Bank

You have a reading comprehension problem. It shows in your posts.

Children killed since September 2000

Israeli 129
Palestinian 1477

Remember These Children

Is Hamas a terrorist organization?

Hmmm.

 

[SAYIT]

LOL Walid Shoebat, who makes money telling lies?
Walid Shoebat Exposed: he is a Liar and Fraud - YouTube

While azzholes like you bend over for free. So who is the fool here?

 

[Billo_Really]

Nope, the retraction found that Hamas lied, and a terrorist organization is a terrorist organization, and therefore cannot be trusted.

Are you on crack? That's not what we were talking about. We have no disagreement on the things Hamas did that were war crimes. We were talking about what the Israeli's did and nothing in Goldstone's op-ed, proves what you claim it does. You either got serious comprehension issues, or you're a psychopathic liar!

 

[Jos]

LOL Walid Shoebat, who makes money telling lies?

Oh, bog off with those silly excuses! In memorable words of Jacob De Haas "In 1860, entire Algerian tribes immigrated en masse to Safed. The Muslims of Safed, are mostly descended from these Moorish settlers and from Kurds that came earlier to the city."

Yes but unlike you I posted a link

 

[docmauser1]

Yes but unlike you I posted a link

Arab agitprop garbage always comes with links, indeed.

 

[docmauser1]

Is Hamas a terrorist organization?

But of course, it is!

 

[Artevelde]

B-It's a swear word just like all the other ones that are being used by other posters in their responses to each other. Next time it wouldn't hurt to check?

Geezus, these IslamoNazis, all they do is whine whine whine. Ha ha ha!

Actually, the only posters I see here really throwing abuse around is you and Rhodes.

Take a little responsibility for what you post, and give the off-topic abuse a rest, eh?

It's hard facing the facts, isn't it?