Is another Civil War brewing?

[frigidweirdo]

Obviously there won't be a "war", but it sure seems like the number of people who could become violent is increasing.

They're clearly be whipped up into a frenzy by the usual media suspects and the internet.

Someone needs to emerge to calm this shit down before some serious damage is done.
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It's not about to happen any time soon, but it's building.

Firstly the battle lines are being drawn, Republican v. Democrat, partisanship becoming more and more obvious, each side coming up with pathetic nonsense to justify their nonsense.

Secondly the US is going downhill. For the last few generations people have expected to be better off than the last, now it's getting to the point where it's the same, but soon it'll go downhill. China's star is rising, and rising fast. China produces a lot of cheap crap, mainly because 50 year olds lived through the cultural revolution and really don't have the skills to lead a decent first world life.
But the kids, now, they're learning to be robots, their math skill is way beyond that of any western country, half the kids in China have a math score that'd get them into Harvard, they just struggle with the creativity side of the SATs. Who needs creativity when producing high tech goods? You need the relevant skills and China is giving kids some of these, and the US simply isn't.

So when people start losing hope, they'll start squabbling more, getting more violent and angry and then there's the guns...... even a four year old can shoot his mom.

 

[Mac1958]

Obviously there won't be a "war", but it sure seems like the number of people who could become violent is increasing.

They're clearly be whipped up into a frenzy by the usual media suspects and the internet.

Someone needs to emerge to calm this shit down before some serious damage is done.
.

It's not about to happen any time soon, but it's building.

Firstly the battle lines are being drawn, Republican v. Democrat, partisanship becoming more and more obvious, each side coming up with pathetic nonsense to justify their nonsense.

Secondly the US is going downhill. For the last few generations people have expected to be better off than the last, now it's getting to the point where it's the same, but soon it'll go downhill. China's star is rising, and rising fast. China produces a lot of cheap crap, mainly because 50 year olds lived through the cultural revolution and really don't have the skills to lead a decent first world life.
But the kids, now, they're learning to be robots, their math skill is way beyond that of any western country, half the kids in China have a math score that'd get them into Harvard, they just struggle with the creativity side of the SATs. Who needs creativity when producing high tech goods? You need the relevant skills and China is giving kids some of these, and the US simply isn't.

So when people start losing hope, they'll start squabbling more, getting more violent and angry and then there's the guns...... even a four year old can shoot his mom.

It's going to take some leadership, and I don't see anyone on the horizon.

Regarding China, we'll see. We said the same thing about Japan in the 70's. China is in the midst of transitioning from a manufacturing economy to a consumer-driven economy, or trying to, and early signs are that its leadership may not know what it's doing. Its currency is tanking and there are some significant structural problems that are still increasing.

I certainly agree that we're in decline, but this to me is a self-inflicted wound. We have some crazed people, people who have simply fucking LOST it, and they're increasing in number and influence.
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[frigidweirdo]

Obviously there won't be a "war", but it sure seems like the number of people who could become violent is increasing.

They're clearly be whipped up into a frenzy by the usual media suspects and the internet.

Someone needs to emerge to calm this shit down before some serious damage is done.
.

It's not about to happen any time soon, but it's building.

Firstly the battle lines are being drawn, Republican v. Democrat, partisanship becoming more and more obvious, each side coming up with pathetic nonsense to justify their nonsense.

Secondly the US is going downhill. For the last few generations people have expected to be better off than the last, now it's getting to the point where it's the same, but soon it'll go downhill. China's star is rising, and rising fast. China produces a lot of cheap crap, mainly because 50 year olds lived through the cultural revolution and really don't have the skills to lead a decent first world life.
But the kids, now, they're learning to be robots, their math skill is way beyond that of any western country, half the kids in China have a math score that'd get them into Harvard, they just struggle with the creativity side of the SATs. Who needs creativity when producing high tech goods? You need the relevant skills and China is giving kids some of these, and the US simply isn't.

So when people start losing hope, they'll start squabbling more, getting more violent and angry and then there's the guns...... even a four year old can shoot his mom.

It's going to take some leadership, and I don't see anyone on the horizon.

Regarding China, we'll see. We said the same thing about Japan in the 70's. China is in the midst of transitioning from a manufacturing economy to a consumer-driven economy, or trying to, and early signs are that its leadership may not know what it's doing. Its currency is tanking and there are some significant structural problems that are still increasing.

I certainly agree that we're in decline, but this to me is a self-inflicted wound. We have some crazed people, people who have simply fucking LOST it, and they're increasing in number and influence.
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Yeah, there's no leadership out there, no one would bother voting for a person who could actually run a country properly anyway. Not entertaining enough, is it?

Japan has a population about 1/3 the size of the US. China has one 4 times larger, there's a difference. Japan and Germany couldn't stop high tech from being in the US, China could.

Maybe the govt doesn't know what it's doing, they think they do. What China desperately needs is a recession. There's so much dead wood, businesses that have been set up by imbeciles who don't know the first thing about running a business, and they're making a ton of money. A recession will wipe them away, only the best will survive and grow, allowing others to rise up who will have to compete with the better firms, rather than at present where the market is so large.

Chinese kids study for like 16 hours a day, they're robots of a kind the US will never be. If they get the skills they need, they're going to get the jobs.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Obviously there won't be a "war", but it sure seems like the number of people who could become violent is increasing.

They're clearly be whipped up into a frenzy by the usual media suspects and the internet.

Someone needs to emerge to calm this shit down before some serious damage is done.
.

It's not about to happen any time soon, but it's building.

Firstly the battle lines are being drawn, Republican v. Democrat, partisanship becoming more and more obvious, each side coming up with pathetic nonsense to justify their nonsense.

Secondly the US is going downhill. For the last few generations people have expected to be better off than the last, now it's getting to the point where it's the same, but soon it'll go downhill. China's star is rising, and rising fast. China produces a lot of cheap crap, mainly because 50 year olds lived through the cultural revolution and really don't have the skills to lead a decent first world life.
But the kids, now, they're learning to be robots, their math skill is way beyond that of any western country, half the kids in China have a math score that'd get them into Harvard, they just struggle with the creativity side of the SATs. Who needs creativity when producing high tech goods? You need the relevant skills and China is giving kids some of these, and the US simply isn't.

So when people start losing hope, they'll start squabbling more, getting more violent and angry and then there's the guns...... even a four year old can shoot his mom.

It's going to take some leadership, and I don't see anyone on the horizon.

Regarding China, we'll see. We said the same thing about Japan in the 70's. China is in the midst of transitioning from a manufacturing economy to a consumer-driven economy, or trying to, and early signs are that its leadership may not know what it's doing. Its currency is tanking and there are some significant structural problems that are still increasing.

I certainly agree that we're in decline, but this to me is a self-inflicted wound. We have some crazed people, people who have simply fucking LOST it, and they're increasing in number and influence.
.

Yeah, there's no leadership out there, no one would bother voting for a person who could actually run a country properly anyway. Not entertaining enough, is it?

Japan has a population about 1/3 the size of the US. China has one 4 times larger, there's a difference. Japan and Germany couldn't stop high tech from being in the US, China could.

Maybe the govt doesn't know what it's doing, they think they do. What China desperately needs is a recession. There's so much dead wood, businesses that have been set up by imbeciles who don't know the first thing about running a business, and they're making a ton of money. A recession will wipe them away, only the best will survive and grow, allowing others to rise up who will have to compete with the better firms, rather than at present where the market is so large.

Chinese kids study for like 16 hours a day, they're robots of a kind the US will never be. If they get the skills they need, they're going to get the jobs.

 

[Mac1958]

Obviously there won't be a "war", but it sure seems like the number of people who could become violent is increasing.

They're clearly be whipped up into a frenzy by the usual media suspects and the internet.

Someone needs to emerge to calm this shit down before some serious damage is done.
.

It's not about to happen any time soon, but it's building.

Firstly the battle lines are being drawn, Republican v. Democrat, partisanship becoming more and more obvious, each side coming up with pathetic nonsense to justify their nonsense.

Secondly the US is going downhill. For the last few generations people have expected to be better off than the last, now it's getting to the point where it's the same, but soon it'll go downhill. China's star is rising, and rising fast. China produces a lot of cheap crap, mainly because 50 year olds lived through the cultural revolution and really don't have the skills to lead a decent first world life.
But the kids, now, they're learning to be robots, their math skill is way beyond that of any western country, half the kids in China have a math score that'd get them into Harvard, they just struggle with the creativity side of the SATs. Who needs creativity when producing high tech goods? You need the relevant skills and China is giving kids some of these, and the US simply isn't.

So when people start losing hope, they'll start squabbling more, getting more violent and angry and then there's the guns...... even a four year old can shoot his mom.

It's going to take some leadership, and I don't see anyone on the horizon.

Regarding China, we'll see. We said the same thing about Japan in the 70's. China is in the midst of transitioning from a manufacturing economy to a consumer-driven economy, or trying to, and early signs are that its leadership may not know what it's doing. Its currency is tanking and there are some significant structural problems that are still increasing.

I certainly agree that we're in decline, but this to me is a self-inflicted wound. We have some crazed people, people who have simply fucking LOST it, and they're increasing in number and influence.
.

Yeah, there's no leadership out there, no one would bother voting for a person who could actually run a country properly anyway. Not entertaining enough, is it?

Japan has a population about 1/3 the size of the US. China has one 4 times larger, there's a difference. Japan and Germany couldn't stop high tech from being in the US, China could.

Maybe the govt doesn't know what it's doing, they think they do. What China desperately needs is a recession. There's so much dead wood, businesses that have been set up by imbeciles who don't know the first thing about running a business, and they're making a ton of money. A recession will wipe them away, only the best will survive and grow, allowing others to rise up who will have to compete with the better firms, rather than at present where the market is so large.

Chinese kids study for like 16 hours a day, they're robots of a kind the US will never be. If they get the skills they need, they're going to get the jobs.

Yeah, the sheer size of the country is a wild card, no doubt.

As far as leadership goes here, I don't see an incentive for a real leader - a person who can get both ends of the spectrum to calm down - to take the risk. That person would be destroyed right now. And yeah, we're more interested in being entertained than in boring stuff like competence.
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[candycorn]

Everyone under 40 makes the same mistakes on questions like these. They are simply to young to remember when America was really free from this PC shit going around now. Believe me, it can't last. The rest of us have not gone anywhere, we are here and getting sick of this monkey business. Some of us did raise our kids right and passed on what we know about socialism and communism and rights that are just wrong. Now, we are on the cusp. Either people will elect Trump and we can do this peacefully, or they can try to phoney up the peoples will and cause the civil war that is simmering. It's like the fox and the hare. Patriots will be fighting for our way of life, you commies will be fighting for lunch. Guess who will win.

Every patriot to the American way of life is a traitor to the transformed country.

Says the gal who insists we need to be taken over by Russia with a network of 'informants' to turn neighbors into the local "Russian Commander''.

The loathing that the fringe right has of the United States has no bounds.

No greater calling has a patriot than to rat out their fellow countrymen….right?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Everyone under 40 makes the same mistakes on questions like these. They are simply to young to remember when America was really free from this PC shit going around now. Believe me, it can't last. The rest of us have not gone anywhere, we are here and getting sick of this monkey business. Some of us did raise our kids right and passed on what we know about socialism and communism and rights that are just wrong. Now, we are on the cusp. Either people will elect Trump and we can do this peacefully, or they can try to phoney up the peoples will and cause the civil war that is simmering. It's like the fox and the hare. Patriots will be fighting for our way of life, you commies will be fighting for lunch. Guess who will win.

You won't. Because you opponents are not socialists and communists but you are fascists and authoritarians. Your doom is inevitable.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There won't be a civil war in the same sense that the last civil war was fought. There are no clear lines of demarcation. At best there are isolated areas that insulate themselves from their surroundings.

Yup, they are called prisons and graveyards. Go ahead and revolt.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone under 40 makes the same mistakes on questions like these. They are simply to young to remember when America was really free from this PC shit going around now. Believe me, it can't last. The rest of us have not gone anywhere, we are here and getting sick of this monkey business. Some of us did raise our kids right and passed on what we know about socialism and communism and rights that are just wrong. Now, we are on the cusp. Either people will elect Trump and we can do this peacefully, or they can try to phoney up the peoples will and cause the civil war that is simmering. It's like the fox and the hare. Patriots will be fighting for our way of life, you commies will be fighting for lunch. Guess who will win.

You won't. Because you opponents are not socialists and communists but you are fascists and authoritarians. Your doom is inevitable.

Didn't these arm chair commandos make the exact same prediction if Obama was reelected? Or if gay marriage was supported by the Supreme Court?

These civil war'o'philes sound more and more like some Christian cult predicting the exact 'revised' date of the return of Jesus with each passing day.

 

[JakeStarkey]

These are primarily older (in some cases much older) white males marginalized by a system the would not take the time to understand or work with. They can no more go back to "the way things are" than one can put spilled water back into a shattered bottle.

 

[Katzndogz]

Make sure that bottle is in so many pieces, it could never be put back together.

 

[Katzndogz]

Everyone under 40 makes the same mistakes on questions like these. They are simply to young to remember when America was really free from this PC shit going around now. Believe me, it can't last. The rest of us have not gone anywhere, we are here and getting sick of this monkey business. Some of us did raise our kids right and passed on what we know about socialism and communism and rights that are just wrong. Now, we are on the cusp. Either people will elect Trump and we can do this peacefully, or they can try to phoney up the peoples will and cause the civil war that is simmering. It's like the fox and the hare. Patriots will be fighting for our way of life, you commies will be fighting for lunch. Guess who will win.

Every patriot to the American way of life is a traitor to the transformed country.

Says the gal who insists we need to be taken over by Russia with a network of 'informants' to turn neighbors into the local "Russian Commander''.

The loathing that the fringe right has of the United States has no bounds.

No greater calling has a patriot than to rat out their fellow countrymen….right?

What's a countryman?

 

[Katzndogz]

There are many forms of war, including civil war. Right now the country seems to be undergoing a civil withdrawal and separation. That makes it easy to ignore the fighting that is going on. Conflict becomes just part of the background noise.

Already wide sections of the country have no interest in one another. To suggest some feeling of patriotism to fellow countrymen is simply laughable.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone under 40 makes the same mistakes on questions like these. They are simply to young to remember when America was really free from this PC shit going around now. Believe me, it can't last. The rest of us have not gone anywhere, we are here and getting sick of this monkey business. Some of us did raise our kids right and passed on what we know about socialism and communism and rights that are just wrong. Now, we are on the cusp. Either people will elect Trump and we can do this peacefully, or they can try to phoney up the peoples will and cause the civil war that is simmering. It's like the fox and the hare. Patriots will be fighting for our way of life, you commies will be fighting for lunch. Guess who will win.

Every patriot to the American way of life is a traitor to the transformed country.

Says the gal who insists we need to be taken over by Russia with a network of 'informants' to turn neighbors into the local "Russian Commander''.

The loathing that the fringe right has of the United States has no bounds.

No greater calling has a patriot than to rat out their fellow countrymen….right?

What's a countryman?

According to you, your Russian handler, comrade.

 

[Skylar]

There are many forms of war, including civil war. Right now the country seems to be undergoing a civil withdrawal and separation. That makes it easy to ignore the fighting that is going on. Conflict becomes just part of the background noise.

Already wide sections of the country have no interest in one another. To suggest some feeling of patriotism to fellow countrymen is simply laughable.

That's why you want Russia to take over the country....to give you the opportunity to turn in your fellow Americans to Russian informants?

 

[Skylar]

These are primarily older (in some cases much older) white males marginalized by a system the would not take the time to understand or work with. They can no more go back to "the way things are" than one can put spilled water back into a shattered bottle.

The problem with that demo....is that they aren't willing to actually fight. How are they going to wage a civill war......without, you know, anyone to fight it for them?

 

[Katzndogz]

There are many ways of fighting. A breakdown in the civic society might not involve fighting at all. Right now, it's a dissolution of any concept that this one country and we are one people.

 

[Skylar]

There are many ways of fighting. A breakdown in the civic society might not involve fighting at all. Right now, it's a dissolution of any concept that this one country and we are one people.

I'm pretty sure that loathing of the United States is you. You're the one begging for Russia to take us over, pleading for an opportunity to turn in your fellow citizens to your Russian handlers.

You're not going to find much company for that among your fellow citizens.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The problem with that demo....is that they aren't willing to actually fight. How are they going to wage a civill war......without, you know, anyone to fight it for them?

If you press people hard enough, they will eventually fight back. You Communists bank on the idea that comforts outweigh infringement, and for the moment that is true. What you cannot grasp is that you are in a game of brinksmanship, you push ever further in your war on civil rights and American culture.

What you have done thus far is given rise to Donald Trump, but are you so stupid that you fail to grasp that Trump is a rebellion in his own right?

 

[Skylar]

The problem with that demo....is that they aren't willing to actually fight. How are they going to wage a civill war......without, you know, anyone to fight it for them?

If you press people hard enough, they will eventually fight back.

Press people hard enough on what? Gay marriage? The people overwhelming support it. AMong millenials (you know, the fight age folks), support is roughly 80%.

Pushed over the 'oregon occupation'? Those guys are national laughing stock.

What issue is going to push our young people to start killing cops and soldiers in the name of the revolution? Specifically.

You Communists bank on the idea that comforts outweigh infringement, and for the moment that is true. What you cannot grasp is that you are in a game of brinksmanship, you push ever further in your war on civil rights and American culture.

What you have done thus far is given rise to Donald Trump, but are you so stupid that you fail to grasp that Trump is a rebellion in his own right?

'Communist'? I'm not calling for Russia to take us over so I can turn in my fellow citizens to Russian informants. That's your ilk.