Iran Has Seized 2 UK Oil Tankers

[lennypartiv]

Act of War.

Exactly. Good thing we have a president with balls who is not afraid of war.

 

[lennypartiv]

oh----you are a 'war monger' too

Better than being a liberal peacenik.

This will be good for America. It gives us a chance to test our newest weaponry in a real war situation. It will also be great for the economy since US arms manufacturers will be busy replacing the bombs that get dropped and the missiles that get launched.

 

[Olde Europe]

Act of War.

Exactly. Good thing we have a president with balls who is not afraid of war.

Yep, "balls". In, out, six months tops, and it'll cost a pittance - actually, Saudi Arabia and Mexico will pay, and Trump will make a profit!

All the world's stupid, unite! It's been such fun the last time it's been tried!

 

[pismoe]

Act of War.

Exactly. Good thing we have a president with balls who is not afraid of war.

Yep, "balls". In, out, six months tops, and it'll cost a pittance - actually, Saudi Arabia and Mexico will pay, and Trump will make a profit!

All the world's stupid, unite! It's been such fun the last time it's been tried!

------------------------------------ depends on which war you refer to but none of the wars other than the 'revolutionay war and the 'civil war ' and the war of 1812 affected the USA . Course , youse guys might want to get gas masks , hard hats and some BANDAGES OldEuro . ------- oh and don't forget the extra ammo for yer personal guns Old Euro .

 

[Bleipriester]

23 hostages......Websites tracking the ship's path show it turning sharply in the direction of Iran's Qeshm Island, instead of its intended destination of Saudi Arabia.

UK-flagged tanker seized by Iran's Revolutionary Guard in Strait of Hormuz

Act of War.

UK seized one of Iran's a couple weeks ago for violations. It's tit for tat.

the UK had a legal reason to do so, and the backing of the rest of the EU.

Who's backing Iran on this one?

Nonsense!

Well done, Iran! Show those shitheads that they are not above international law.

So the EU is violating international law?

The EU pretends to be international law. They have no right to ban Iranian-Syrian trade. And Iran says the tanker was not heading to Syria. The fuel crisis in Syria is going on, it is the citizens who feel the shortages.

 

[Bleipriester]

News:
One of the two seized British tankers, the Mesdar, is underway again. The Stena Impero is still in Iranian custody.

 

[WillPower]

The EU pretends to be international law. They have no right to ban Iranian-Syrian trade. And Iran says the tanker was not heading to Syria. The fuel crisis in Syria is going on, it is the citizens who feel the shortages.

The Iranian tanker in question traveled around the Cape of Africa and back up to Gibraltar where it was seized. You don't make a voyage like that if you're doing legal business. The EU sanctions aren't law...policy to protest Iran's spreading terrorism throughout the ME and the world. We have now cut off 95% of Iranian oil sales....any Iranian oil found in transit is now considered contraband and seized. Tough shit for the Syrians...they should have fought harder to oust Assad. Iran doesn't get to nuke Israel...that probably saddens you, eh?

 

[WillPower]

Nonsense!

Well done, Iran! Show those shitheads that they are not above international law.

So why are you mouthing off on a message board instead of manning an Iranian pirate boat....Yella?

 

[Mindful]

Act of War.

Exactly. Good thing we have a president with balls who is not afraid of war.

Yep, "balls". In, out, six months tops, and it'll cost a pittance - actually, Saudi Arabia and Mexico will pay, and Trump will make a profit!

All the world's stupid, unite! It's been such fun the last time it's been tried!

We could always try appeasement.

 

[Mindful]

Act of War.

UK seized one of Iran's a couple weeks ago for violations. It's tit for tat.

the UK had a legal reason to do so, and the backing of the rest of the EU.

Who's backing Iran on this one?

Nonsense!

Well done, Iran! Show those shitheads that they are not above international law.

So the EU is violating international law?

The EU pretends to be international law. They have no right to ban Iranian-Syrian trade. And Iran says the tanker was not heading to Syria. The fuel crisis in Syria is going on, it is the citizens who feel the shortages.

Where was it heading to?

 

[Mindful]

The British sending out mixed messages. On the one hand, sabre rattling: there will be serious consequences. On the other: they want a diplomatic solution.

Robust consequences. lol.

Make up your mind.

 

[Bleipriester]

UK seized one of Iran's a couple weeks ago for violations. It's tit for tat.

the UK had a legal reason to do so, and the backing of the rest of the EU.

Who's backing Iran on this one?

Nonsense!

Well done, Iran! Show those shitheads that they are not above international law.

So the EU is violating international law?

The EU pretends to be international law. They have no right to ban Iranian-Syrian trade. And Iran says the tanker was not heading to Syria. The fuel crisis in Syria is going on, it is the citizens who feel the shortages.

Where was it heading to?

 

[Polishprince]

23 hostages......Websites tracking the ship's path show it turning sharply in the direction of Iran's Qeshm Island, instead of its intended destination of Saudi Arabia.

UK-flagged tanker seized by Iran's Revolutionary Guard in Strait of Hormuz

I think what is really notable here about this story is that the UK is a signatory to the Obama-Iran deal and has not renounced it.

The event shows President Trump was absolutely on target correct in his decision for America's withdrawal. The pact provides absolutely zero protection and zero goodwill from the Islamonazi goons who are reigning terror in the senior member of the Axis of Evil.

 

[OldLady]

23 hostages......Websites tracking the ship's path show it turning sharply in the direction of Iran's Qeshm Island, instead of its intended destination of Saudi Arabia.

UK-flagged tanker seized by Iran's Revolutionary Guard in Strait of Hormuz

I think what is really notable here about this story is that the UK is a signatory to the Obama-Iran deal and has not renounced it.

The event shows President Trump was absolutely on target correct in his decision for America's withdrawal. The pact provides absolutely zero protection and zero goodwill from the Islamonazi goons who are reigning terror in the senior member of the Axis of Evil.

The nuclear deal wasn't an agreement about good behavior. It was specifically about limiting nuclear capability. It is the Republicans who determined that it should also extend to insisting Iran behave like a Boy Scout.

 

[Mindful]

• Yet, while Iran shows no sign of scaling down its aggressive stance towards the US and its allies in the region, Europe continues to cling to the wreckage of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), to give the nuclear deal its proper name, in the misguided belief that the deal remains the best means of preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

• The determination of the Europeans to stick with the nuclear deal at all costs was very much in evidence earlier this week during a meeting of European Union foreign ministers in Brussels at which they came up with the decidedly bogus notion that Iran's breaches of the 2015 nuclear deal were not significant and therefore did not require the Europeans to withdraw from the JCPOA.

• Europe's insistence on sticking with the nuclear deal, and its refusal to support Washington's attempts to provide naval protection for international shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, could ultimately prove self-defeating.

• Europe is far more dependent on energy supplies from the Gulf than the US, and any further attempts by Iran to disrupt oil and gas supplies from the Gulf would have catastrophic consequences for Europe's economy.
  
  Time for Europe to Get Over The "Worst Deal Ever"

 

[martybegan]

Act of War.

UK seized one of Iran's a couple weeks ago for violations. It's tit for tat.

you got a link?

It's in the one in the OP

oh ------well Britain did not BREXIT yet and there IS an embargo on
supplies to Syria-----what sort of excuse would Iran have for stopping
a British ship in the strait of Hormuz?

There IS an embargo on supplies to Syria? Why? Did Iran agree to that? They aren't part of the EU, are they? Or are they? Seems strange if they are.

They don't have to agree to it. It's a fait accompli. If they try to break it, their ships get seized.

 

[Bleipriester]

• Yet, while Iran shows no sign of scaling down its aggressive stance towards the US and its allies in the region, Europe continues to cling to the wreckage of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), to give the nuclear deal its proper name, in the misguided belief that the deal remains the best means of preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

• The determination of the Europeans to stick with the nuclear deal at all costs was very much in evidence earlier this week during a meeting of European Union foreign ministers in Brussels at which they came up with the decidedly bogus notion that Iran's breaches of the 2015 nuclear deal were not significant and therefore did not require the Europeans to withdraw from the JCPOA.

• Europe's insistence on sticking with the nuclear deal, and its refusal to support Washington's attempts to provide naval protection for international shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, could ultimately prove self-defeating.

• Europe is far more dependent on energy supplies from the Gulf than the US, and any further attempts by Iran to disrupt oil and gas supplies from the Gulf would have catastrophic consequences for Europe's economy.
  
  Time for Europe to Get Over The "Worst Deal Ever"

It is as if you just want them to make nukes.
The deal does not only include good will but massive monitoring of Iranian facilities.
And there is a new Iranian proposal to send US inspectors for the lifting of sanctions in return.

 

[martybegan]

23 hostages......Websites tracking the ship's path show it turning sharply in the direction of Iran's Qeshm Island, instead of its intended destination of Saudi Arabia.

UK-flagged tanker seized by Iran's Revolutionary Guard in Strait of Hormuz

Act of War.

UK seized one of Iran's a couple weeks ago for violations. It's tit for tat.

the UK had a legal reason to do so, and the backing of the rest of the EU.

Who's backing Iran on this one?

Nonsense!

Well done, Iran! Show those shitheads that they are not above international law.

Fuck off you terror apologist twat-waddle.

 

[Mindful]

• Yet, while Iran shows no sign of scaling down its aggressive stance towards the US and its allies in the region, Europe continues to cling to the wreckage of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), to give the nuclear deal its proper name, in the misguided belief that the deal remains the best means of preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

• The determination of the Europeans to stick with the nuclear deal at all costs was very much in evidence earlier this week during a meeting of European Union foreign ministers in Brussels at which they came up with the decidedly bogus notion that Iran's breaches of the 2015 nuclear deal were not significant and therefore did not require the Europeans to withdraw from the JCPOA.

• Europe's insistence on sticking with the nuclear deal, and its refusal to support Washington's attempts to provide naval protection for international shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, could ultimately prove self-defeating.

• Europe is far more dependent on energy supplies from the Gulf than the US, and any further attempts by Iran to disrupt oil and gas supplies from the Gulf would have catastrophic consequences for Europe's economy.
  
  Time for Europe to Get Over The "Worst Deal Ever"

It is as if you just want them to make nukes.
The deal does not only include good will but massive monitoring of Iranian facilities.
And there is a new Iranian proposal to send US inspectors for the lifting of sanctions in return.

Sentence 1. Utter twaddle.

 

[martybegan]

Act of War.

Exactly. Good thing we have a president with balls who is not afraid of war.

Our play would be to back up whatever the Brits want to do. Hopefully the EU also joins in.