In honor of those who were MURDERED by muslim extremists on 9/11.....

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQoYQQE5N0]YouTube - 9-11 Family Member Bob McIlVaine - Part 1 of 4[/ame]

 

[KittenKoder]

ignore the loony "truther" threads!
Seriously, those people are friggin nuts, without ANYTHING substantial to base their claims!

Sorry, but if all Muslims are to be blamed for this atrocity, then we can also blame all christians for the Salem Witch hunts, all pagans for Aztec cannibalism, all Jews for ... well something, get my point?

Well, he did say "extremists"....

Good point, I missed that.

 

[eots]

eots..

What ever happened to your truther buddies?? You guys used to swamp the boards and brag about your increasing ranks? Today I didn't see a single story about the truthers. Today is your biggest day of the year and your movement has nothing.

Did you guys just give up and go home??

you have not been paying attention then....

 

[garyd]

Well that's two and counting that doesn't add up to hundreds. Most of them would dearly like to have your guts for garters.

 

[eots]

yep....they are all fucking wacked.....

so do you not think it is news worthy that hundreds of top level ex military and Intel and research scientist..involved in some of the most sensitive areas of government are suffering this mass mental illness...its a real phenomenon' dont you think ?




OpEdNews - Article: Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11

They should be placed on a witness stand and made to prove their accusations without a shadow of a doubt or be made to pay billions in slander.

uhh that's the very thing they have been petitioning for and the government running from for years now do you even realise the irony and how nonsensical of your statement is ?

 

[Si modo]

Sorry, but if all Muslims are to be blamed for this atrocity, then we can also blame all christians for the Salem Witch hunts, all pagans for Aztec cannibalism, all Jews for ... well something, get my point?

Well, he did say "extremists"....

Good point, I missed that.

Point spot on!

 

[WillowTree]

so do you not think it is news worthy that hundreds of top level ex military and Intel and research scientist..involved in some of the most sensitive areas of government are suffering this mass mental illness...its a real phenomenon' dont you think ?




OpEdNews - Article: Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11

They should be placed on a witness stand and made to prove their accusations without a shadow of a doubt or be made to pay billions in slander.

uhh that's the very thing they have been petitioning for and the government running from for years now do you even realise the irony and how nonsensical of your statement is ?

no, I'm serious. they should have their day in court, to either put up or shut up.. and when they lose they should lose billions in punitive damages for slander.

 

[rightwinger]

eots..

What ever happened to your truther buddies?? You guys used to swamp the boards and brag about your increasing ranks? Today I didn't see a single story about the truthers. Today is your biggest day of the year and your movement has nothing.

Did you guys just give up and go home??

you have not been paying attention then....[/QUOTE]


Looking around.......Hmmmmmm
I don't see anyone else posting but you eots? Where are the thousands of truthers taking to the streets? Where are the protests at 9-11 ceremonies?
Used to be your guys were as thick as flies...posting night and day
"inside job"
" controlled demo"
"freefall"

You guys disappeared after Obama was elected. Guess it shows you were just out to get Bush afterall

 

[eots]

Well that's two and counting that doesn't add up to hundreds. Most of them would dearly like to have your guts for garters.

if you want me to post hundreds i can...


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.
Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.



Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Ringel05]

eots..

What ever happened to your truther buddies?? You guys used to swamp the boards and brag about your increasing ranks? Today I didn't see a single story about the truthers. Today is your biggest day of the year and your movement has nothing.

Did you guys just give up and go home??

Maybe they will come out on Halloween?

April Fools Day

 

[eots]

they are happening right now just like last year... but it wont be on fox tonight so to you it wont exist to you...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OByy7H7iqhQ]YouTube - 9/11 truth 2008 protest new york city september 11 2008[/ame]

 

[garyd]

Yeah remote imaging you know the psychic thing? Oh and how he miss all those people walking around with yard square chunks of airplanes. Dude retired more than 30 years ago. You sure all his synapses still fire?

 

[Wicked Jester]

Well that's two and counting that doesn't add up to hundreds. Most of them would dearly like to have your guts for garters.

if you want me to post hundreds i can...


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.
Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.



Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Christ man, you throw up a video of some "former" intelligence general who's obviously so old he needs to be spoon fed, and you think it provides proof?

 

[eots]

Yeah remote imaging you know the psychic thing? Oh and how he miss all those people walking around with yard square chunks of airplanes. Dude retired more than 30 years ago. You sure all his synapses still fire?

what a fool you are...his job was to study spy plane images...as in photographs
all you can attempt to do is slander character,,,because that and popular mechanics is all that stands in your corner

 

[garyd]

The history channel, popular mechanics, logic, chemistry, 99.9% of the structural engineers in the world, physics, logistics are all on my side. What do you have? Mostly old worn out has beens and never was desperately taking one last shot at another fiftten minutes of fame. People operating well outside there fields of expertise and people with no field of expertise beyond hate.

 

[eots]

Letter to Congress regarding the 9/11 Commission Report 9/13/04, signed by the following 25 military, intelligence, and law enforcement veterans: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. …

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission’s report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. …

The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. ...

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part." National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


Edward J. Costello, Jr. – Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. Former Judge pro tem., Los Angeles, CA.


John M. Cole – Former Intelligence Operations Specialist, in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. In charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. 18-year FBI career.


Mark Conrad, JD – Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations. Former Federal Sky Marshall. 27-year U.S. Customs career. Currently Associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents. Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University.


Rosemary N. Dew – Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence, FBI. Former member of The President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) and the Electronic Commerce/Cyber Crime Working Group. 13-year FBI career.


Bogdan Dzakovic – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. 14-year Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, which conducted undercover tests on airport security through simulated terrorist attacks. Former Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program. Former Coast Guard officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Sibel D. Edmonds – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Former Language Translation Specialist, performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations, FBI. (See also individual statement above.)


Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy and the FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy SEAL. (See also individual statement above.)


David Forbes – Former head of Thames Valley Police Fraud Squad, trained at New Scotland Yard. Over 30 years experience in law enforcement, commercial and industrial security-related risk management, and service sector business management. Currently Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analyst, BoydForbes, Inc.


Melvin A. Goodman – Former Division Chief and Senior Analyst at the Office of Soviet Affairs, CIA,1966 - 1990. Senior Analyst at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974 - 1976. Professor of International Security at the National War College 1986 - 2004. Currently Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of International Relations at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author and co-author of five books on international relations. (See also individual statement above.)


Mark Graf – Former Security Supervisor, Planner, and Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy. Former Chairman of the Rocky Flats (DOE) Physical Security Systems Working Group from 1990 through 1995.


Gilbert M. Graham – Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


Diane Kleiman – Former Special Agent, US Customs.


Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran. (See also individual statement above.)


Lynne A. Larkin – Former CIA Operations Officer. Served in several CIA foreign stations and in the CIA's counter-intelligence center helping chair a multi-agency task force and seminars on coordinating intelligence among intelligence and crime prevention agencies.


David MacMichael, PhD – Former Senior Estimates Officer with special responsibility for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the CIA's National Intelligence Council. Former Captain, U.S. Marine Corps.


Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Theodore J. Pahle – Former Senior Intelligence Officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency. His 37-year intelligence career was exclusively as a HUMINT (Human Intelligence) operations officer with DIA, Office of Naval Intelligence and U.S. Army Intelligence. He is a Middle East and Latin American operations specialist. Today, he continues to support the HUMINT effort as a contract instructor.


Behrooz Sarshar – Retired Language Translation Specialist, performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan, FBI.


Brian F. Sullivan – Retired Special Agent and Risk Management Specialist, FAA. Retired Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police.


Commander Larry J. Tortorich, U.S. Navy (ret) – Former Deputy Program Manager for Logistics – Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. 24-year Navy career in the fields of aviation and counterterrorism. Two years as a federal employee with DHS/TSA in the fields of security and counterterrorism.


Jane A. Turner – Retired Special Agent, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


John B. Vincent – Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. 27-year FBI career.


Fred Whitehurst, JD, PhD – Retired Supervisory Special Agent / Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI. 16-year FBI career. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.


Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat. Served 13 years on active duty with the U.S. Army and 16 years in the U.S. Army Reserves. She was a member of the International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada and served in Panama and Somalia. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001. One of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003. (See also individual statement above.)


Matthew J. Zipoli – Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE. Vice President, Security Police Officer's Association, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory


Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[eots]

The history channel, popular mechanics, logic, chemistry, 99.9% of the structural engineers in the world, physics, logistics are all on my side. What do you have? Mostly old worn out has beens and never was desperately taking one last shot at another fiftten minutes of fame. People operating well outside there fields of expertise and people with no field of expertise beyond hate.

you slander these decorated servicemen...and make up statistics about engineers that you cant substantiate with nothing...and cite controlled media outlets that use the 9/11 commission story as their bases even tho the commission members now call the commission a sham .....that is your case in its entirety

 

[elvis]

they are happening right now just like last year... but it wont be on fox tonight so to you it wont exist to you...


YouTube - 9/11 truth 2008 protest new york city september 11 2008

Will they show it on cnn?

 

[eots]

they are happening right now just like last year... but it wont be on fox tonight so to you it wont exist to you...


YouTube - 9/11 truth 2008 protest new york city september 11 2008

Will they show it on cnn?

fox is like cartoon propaganda..CNN is more sophisticated..you might get a short clip that shows a small group of anarchist or provocateurs acting strangely

 

[elvis]

they are happening right now just like last year... but it wont be on fox tonight so to you it wont exist to you...


YouTube - 9/11 truth 2008 protest new york city september 11 2008

Will they show it on cnn?

fox is like cartoon propaganda..CNN is more sophisticated..you might get a short clip that shows a small group of anarchist or provocateurs acting strangely

Your cause used to get a lot more attention from the main networks. even a year ago or so.