Ignorance and homophobia run rampant

[Powerman]

Cancer has been cured in people through faith. Do you think God has no power to heal?

And there is no genetic evidence for homosexuality. Why do you think those who are arguing that homosexuality is not a choice are not shifting their arguments to chemical and hormonal differences during pregnancy and growing up?

There is only on problem with the "it's natural" argument. And that's the fact that natural doesn't mean right. It's natural to lie, to be violent, to hate, to be intolerant, etc. In fact, all of the vices of mankind are natural. That's what makes them vices. And what makes virtue virtue is the fact that men have to reach out and rise above themselves to obtain it.

There is so much absurdity here I don't know where to start so I'll just start from the beginning. You claim that there is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic yet you claim that God heals people. Obviously there is no evidence for that yet you think it's something that happens all the time apparently. Studies have been done that lean towards homosexuality being genetic.

Then you go on to say that just because it might be natural it doesn't mean that it is right. Something being different doesn't equate to something being wrong. While I can understand if homosexuality might seem disgusting to you as it does to me, I really don't see how someone can say that someone is sinning because they are engaging in consensual sex acts. People really need to grow up about homosexuality. If you would just give them equal rights and leave them alone you wouldn't hear near as much about it and would probably live a happier life.

Another thing that doesn't make sense in the whole homosexuality being a sin argument is that most sins are things that you can be tempted by. I've been tempted to lie, steal, think dirty things, cheat etc... but I've never been tempted to be gay. Gee I wonder why....ding ding ding ....because I'm not fucking gay! You are either gay or you aren't. There isn't much choice involved in the matter. And yes I realize that bisexual people exist but that's a completely different monster. For people that are full blown Richard Simmons gay there isn't much they can do about it. So how is it a sin? If you believe that God puts a special blueprint on everyone then you must believe that God made them gay. I can promise you they didn't choose to be that way. Why would they choose to be that way anyway? So they could be ridiculed? Sorry but most temptations offer some sort of reward with them. To suggest that being gay is a sin is to suggest that every married man really wants to be gay but luckily he can fight the temptation of the sin. It's so absurd I don't even know how to comprehend the retarded logic that would lead people to believe that homosexuality is a choice and a sin. That would be like someone choosing to be black in the 1800s

 

[Powerman]

Bisexuality is possessing absolutely no discipline whatsover and not caring WHERE you put it so long as you get your rocks off.

Morally reprehensible. At least gays think they have an excuse.

Bisexuality is a choice. Homo or hetero isn't. There was a study done recently that involved people who claimed to be bi as well as people who claimed to be straigh and gay. They would make each group watch different pornographic movies and guage their reactions to see which they were most aroused by. The gays were aroused by the same sex only and the straights were aroused by the opposite sex only. Over 90 percent of the people that claimed they were bi were aroused by one or the other and not by both. Only a few people were genetically bisexual according to the study. I still don't understand how people can think that homosexuality is a choice. If you are aroused by the same sex and not the opposite sex is there really much you can do about that? You can force it maybe but that's about it. I say just go with what is natural.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Sure there are individuals within every group. I don't understand what you mean by them not being a monolith. Whenever people group themselves together as an interest group they create a monolith.

Not all blacks have the same interests.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

How do you know most homoe are less likely to abstain from sex? I don't know any virgin heteros myself.

studies/statistics

I said sexual activity, you mention virginity.

IF two lesbians engage in oral sex, are they still virgins?

 

[LuvRPgrl]

There is so much absurdity here I don't know where to start so I'll just start from the beginning. You claim that there is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic yet you claim that God heals people. Obviously there is no evidence for that yet you think it's something that happens all the time apparently. Studies have been done that lean towards homosexuality being genetic.

Then you go on to say that just because it might be natural it doesn't mean that it is right. Something being different doesn't equate to something being wrong. While I can understand if homosexuality might seem disgusting to you as it does to me, I really don't see how someone can say that someone is sinning because they are engaging in consensual sex acts. People really need to grow up about homosexuality. If you would just give them equal rights and leave them alone you wouldn't hear near as much about it and would probably live a happier life.

Another thing that doesn't make sense in the whole homosexuality being a sin argument is that most sins are things that you can be tempted by. I've been tempted to lie, steal, think dirty things, cheat etc... but I've never been tempted to be gay. Gee I wonder why....ding ding ding ....because I'm not fucking gay! You are either gay or you aren't. There isn't much choice involved in the matter. And yes I realize that bisexual people exist but that's a completely different monster. For people that are full blown Richard Simmons gay there isn't much they can do about it. So how is it a sin? If you believe that God puts a special blueprint on everyone then you must believe that God made them gay. I can promise you they didn't choose to be that way. Why would they choose to be that way anyway? So they could be ridiculed? Sorry but most temptations offer some sort of reward with them. To suggest that being gay is a sin is to suggest that every married man really wants to be gay but luckily he can fight the temptation of the sin. It's so absurd I don't even know how to comprehend the retarded logic that would lead people to believe that homosexuality is a choice and a sin. That would be like someone choosing to be black in the 1800s

First you say there is nothing wrong with it, then you say if they had a choice, they wouldnt choose it. hmmmm

Women who fought for equal rights back before, wouldnt have changed their gender if given the choice, in spite of the hardships.

And Homosexuals do have equal rights. Tell me what I can do that a homo cant

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Bisexuality is a choice. Homo or hetero isn't. There was a study done recently that involved people who claimed to be bi as well as people who claimed to be straigh and gay. They would make each group watch different pornographic movies and guage their reactions to see which they were most aroused by. The gays were aroused by the same sex only and the straights were aroused by the opposite sex only. Over 90 percent of the people that claimed they were bi were aroused by one or the other and not by both. Only a few people were genetically bisexual according to the study. I still don't understand how people can think that homosexuality is a choice. If you are aroused by the same sex and not the opposite sex is there really much you can do about that? You can force it maybe but that's about it. I say just go with what is natural.

All that proves is that 90% of those claiming to be bisexual were liars. But since 10% were aroused by both, why does that prove they have a choice?

Furtherly, its possible some "claiming" to be bi, had at one time a different preference, but for some reason, it changed, and they consider that to make them bi, even though never at any time did they like sex with both at the same time.

Women are much more prone to be able to change those desires and be influenced to do so.

 

[Powerman]

All that proves is that 90% of those claiming to be bisexual were liars. But since 10% were aroused by both, why does that prove they have a choice?

Furtherly, its possible some "claiming" to be bi, had at one time a different preference, but for some reason, it changed, and they consider that to make them bi, even though never at any time did they like sex with both at the same time.

Women are much more prone to be able to change those desires and be influenced to do so.

Women are more prone to do so because they have more male harmones than males have female harmones. The study just shows that true bisexuals are rare or suggests that anyway.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Women are more prone to do so because they have more male harmones than males have female harmones. The study just shows that true bisexuals are rare or suggests that anyway.

You said bisexuality is a choice, you didnt say "its almost always" or "except rare cases"

furtherly, you didnt limit bisexuality to one gender or the other, so having more male hormones is relevant exactly how? If its a choice (and I assume you mean by both genders, since you dont state, "its a choice with men, but not women, or visa versa) then having more or less of male hormones shouldnt make any difference in your ability to choose. Yet women remain much stronger in the ability to be bisexual, and to go into it or out of it. Men, on the other hand, once they go into a sexual orientation, are much less likely to change it.

 

[Gunny]

Bisexuality is a choice. Homo or hetero isn't. There was a study done recently that involved people who claimed to be bi as well as people who claimed to be straigh and gay. They would make each group watch different pornographic movies and guage their reactions to see which they were most aroused by. The gays were aroused by the same sex only and the straights were aroused by the opposite sex only. Over 90 percent of the people that claimed they were bi were aroused by one or the other and not by both. Only a few people were genetically bisexual according to the study. I still don't understand how people can think that homosexuality is a choice. If you are aroused by the same sex and not the opposite sex is there really much you can do about that? You can force it maybe but that's about it. I say just go with what is natural.

Sexual behavior IS a choice, period.

And I agree with you about going with what is natural ..... heterosexuality is natural; homosexuality is UNnatural.

 

[Powerman]

Sexual behavior IS a choice, period.

And I agree with you about going with what is natural ..... heterosexuality is natural; homosexuality is UNnatural.

That's easy for you to say because you're obviously heterosexual. Maybe we should call albinos sinners because that's just not "normal." Fuck it, while we're at it let's lump handicap people into the sinnder category. After all there isn't anything natural or normal about that.


On a more serious note homosexuality is not a choice. Can you tell me one good reason why someone would want to be gay? Do you really think gay people like being ostracized? I doubt it. They are gay because they are gay and there isn't anything they can do to change their sexual preference. This is nonsense.

 

[Gunny]

That's easy for you to say because you're obviously heterosexual. Maybe we should call albinos sinners because that's just not "normal." Fuck it, while we're at it let's lump handicap people into the sinnder category. After all there isn't anything natural or normal about that.


On a more serious note homosexuality is not a choice. Can you tell me one good reason why someone would want to be gay? Do you really think gay people like being ostracized? I doubt it. They are gay because they are gay and there isn't anything they can do to change their sexual preference. This is nonsense.

The two favorite lame, left-wing arguments all in one post. Damn, you're good.

Nonsense is thinking that people cannot do what is right, regardless some stupid urge to do what is wrong. Homosexuality is a choice, and it doesn't matter WHY they choose to do so. That line of thinking is crap. Every damned one of them I see on the tube is just looking for attention and to shock. Obviously they don't care about being ostracized as long as they get their fifteen minutes.

 

[manu1959]

I still don't understand how people can think that homosexuality is a choice.

simple...i choose not to suck d&*%^...take it in the a^%&^.... nor give wrap arounds

 

[Gunny]

simple...i choose not to suck d&*%^...take it in the a^%&^.... nor give wrap arounds

heh ....well put.

 

[manu1959]

heh ....well put.

i am nothing if not direct

 

[Powerman]

simple...i choose not to suck d&*%^...take it in the a^%&^.... nor give wrap arounds

That's because you aren't gay. If you were gay that might be different. That isn't something you would just choose to do for no apparent reason. You have to be born gay to suck dick or take it in the ass. It's not a choice. Trust me. Hell I think it's disgusting too. Which to me is just more proof of why people are just born that way. You are either attracted to the opposite sex are you aren't. There isn't much choice in the situation. How fucking stupid are you people? Do you really think that everyone is born heteresexual and some people just choose to assfuck eachother for no apparent reason? WTF?

 

[Gunny]

That's because you aren't gay. If you were gay that might be different. That isn't something you would just choose to do for no apparent reason. You have to be born gay to suck dick or take it in the ass. It's not a choice. Trust me. Hell I think it's disgusting too. Which to me is just more proof of why people are just born that way. You are either attracted to the opposite sex are you aren't. There isn't much choice in the situation. How fucking stupid are you people? Do you really think that everyone is born heteresexual and some people just choose to assfuck eachother for no apparent reason? WTF?

S*cking d*cks or taking it up the butt is not a choice? :rotflmao:

 

[manu1959]

That's because you aren't gay. If you were gay that might be different. That isn't something you would just choose to do for no apparent reason. You have to be born gay to suck dick or take it in the ass. It's not a choice. Trust me. Hell I think it's disgusting too. Which to me is just more proof of why people are just born that way. You are either attracted to the opposite sex are you aren't. There isn't much choice in the situation. How fucking stupid are you people? Do you really think that everyone is born heteresexual and some people just choose to assfuck eachother for no apparent reason? WTF?

well my gay buddies tell me you are full of shit...

 

[Powerman]

S*cking d*cks or taking it up the butt is not a choice? :rotflmao:

Well it's not something you would choose to do if you weren't born gay. That much seems obvious. How many heterosexual people do you know that like to get fucked in the ass? I mean if we are born with a choice wouldn't that mean everyone is bisexual at least in the mind? I don't think it works quite like that because I myself have never had gay fantasies. I'm not suggesting that you have but to believe that it is a choice is almost admitting that you do.

 

[Nuc]

Well it's not something you would choose to do if you weren't born gay. That much seems obvious. How many heterosexual people do you know that like to get fucked in the ass?

I know a lot of heterosexual females who like it in the ass. Does that count? Are you a sexist?

 

[Powerman]

I know a lot of heterosexual females who like it in the ass. Does that count? Are you a sexist?

No. Most girls actually won't do it but the fact is, it's still a heterosexual act even though to me it seems like essentially the same thing. My point is that heterosexual people don't want to be gay and somehow fight off the evil sin. You are either gay or you aren't gay. Or maybe you are bi but I don't think that there is a ton of choice involved in your sexual preference.