If Wars are Bad...

[Delta4Embassy]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

 

[gipper]

Oh brother...another silly thread...but I will bite.

The history of the human race is primarily that of war and more war. Is this news to you?

As far as learning history, hopefully you understand one of the most profound statements ever uttered...to paraphrase, it goes like this:

Those who fail to learn from history, are destined to repeat it.

War is the health of the STATE (hopefully you know this equally profound statement)....

...apparently the human race is incapable of learning from past mistakes and is easily duped by the STATE into repeating mistakes over and over again.

 

[defcon4]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

Wars are real. Living in the real world (as opposed to live in phantasy) requires preparation of a child for the real world. Wars did not and do not happen if we don't talk about them?

 

[September]

 

[defcon4]

 

[mgh80]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

What else would you teach them, without the reasonable expectation of having a lot of sleeping students in your class.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

What else would you teach them, without the reasonable expectation of having a lot of sleeping students in your class.

Is more to history than the wars.

 

[Unkotare]

This is a new kind of troll thread - a stupidity thread.

 

[Agit8r]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

We can learn from the mistakes of our bigoted forbears.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

We can learn from the mistakes of our bigoted forbears.

Haven't yet. If anything it's gotten a lot worse since then.

 

[DGS49]

Wars often dramatically change the course of history. Any education that does not include war history and explain the difference between just wars and wars of aggression is deficient.

 

[Publius1787]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

The major questions of history involve how we got to where we are today. Wars play a very large role in that process. Perhaps the largest role. YES, children need this information. They must know the nature of the world they live in if they are to become true scholars.

The idea that war should not be taught in schools is why military historians are becoming extinct on the college campuses. The ideologically communist red diaper babies of the 60's and 70's who now run the realm of higher learning have ensured that military history has disappeared from the classroom. In a Civil War and Reconstruction class I took in college I got only 2 class periods (6hours) on the war itself. Everything else was gender, social, race, and class related. The only liberal arts degree that colleges are actually hurting for are military historians as they are going extinct. When a job opens up for African American/American/ Gender History, Feminist Studies etc thousands of professors apply. However, universities cant find many military historians because the supply of military history programs cannot meet the demand. What happens is that military academies world wide snatch them up, or, they make so much money publishing books that they refuse a professorship.

 

[Disir]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

Yep, they suffer without it. American history is layer after layer of the same stuff until they graduate high school. Explore this theme here or that theme there for a minute. Broad overview-unless you have a school that has an AP history class which branches off a little bit. In fact, American history in college is a very broad overview for the first two courses.

War is usually treated rather clinically in schools: names and dates. It doesn't go far enough and it's linear. But, here is the thing, most don't usually remember it but they remember the time line. Then they go to college (some times it starts in high school) and are outraged. ZOMG! This happened?

Basically, it takes a parent or grandparent.......or someone involved in a kids life that actually likes history to either add to or add more. Many people don't and I don't blame them. The way it is presented in middle and high school is boring as hell and if they develop an interest it isn't until they are much older.

I am not saying this is the right way but I pushed American wars on my kid early on but more about the actual people involved. I did this for two reasons. The first one is that there is no ZOMG later on down the road. I don't want him to be one of those young adults who is all freaked out because people in history really did suck. Secondly, as I said, the people are fascinating and the more that he knew about the people behind the names then the easier it was for him to recall events and there is room to build on it.

I fed him this guy (and others):
Amazon.com Steve Sheinkin Books Biography Blog Audiobooks Kindle

 

[Abishai100]

Coordination Claws


The unusual pop artist Andy Warhol made iconic and sardonic paintings of American consumerism items and blue chips such as Campbell's soup cans. These paintings were somewhat interpreted as a demagoguery statement about the vigilance associated with judging unmitigated capitalism (and ambition).

The free market creates virtual wars and metaphoric war-games (i.e., Wall Street) on many subtle (and non-military) levels.

This would suggest that young students learning about the tech-savvy Gulf War and the culture-motion American Civil War could only create bright and curious future world leaders.

You can't do everything...but you can do anything. This is what students should learn at least in part in high school, college, etc.

We can't have young people playing ninja video games and ignoring the philosophical impact of human conflict and competition in this or any era. However, do relevant Hollywood (USA) movies such as "WarGames" (1983) draw enough attention towards the mature challenges associated with 'ambition coordination?'

 

[Abishai100]

Student Signs

Are student-run Model United Nations mock conferences a creative approach to globalization analysis?

Are student-exchange programs a way to promote a bureaucratic (and hence more peaceful) globalization?

It seems like a double-edged sword.






Au revoir les enfants

 

[G.T.]

...Why do we teach very young children about the wars America has had? Why is history so often fixated on the wars? If the point is to reduce the frequency of wars, should we be teaching children about wars? Do children need that information? Do they suffer without it?

We can learn from the mistakes of our bigoted forbears.

Haven't yet. If anything it's gotten a lot worse since then.

Gotten worse?

Are you retarded?

The reason its gotten so much BETTER is BECAUSE we teach the horrors of wars

And if you think NOW is a worse off time war wise in human history? YOU need to go back to school, trollbot.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Read The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

Most wars are stupid. European culture brainwashes the lower classes to be pawns of the upper classes. The wars serve the interests of the upper classes, they think.

The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Art of War by Sun Zu

What happened with Korea and Vietnam? They did not think like Europeans.

psik

 

[shadow355]

Wars often dramatically change the course of history. Any education that does not include war history and explain the difference between just wars and wars of aggression is deficient.

Wars since the beginning of time have proven one thing ---> that the good always wins.

WW1 - WW2 ( we stopped Hitler and the Nazi War machine ) - Korea - Vietnam ( not a total win, but we halted communist aggression ) - Gulf War ( Saddam took an Class A Whoopin - Thank You Generals Schwarzkopf & Powell ) ...and even now in OIF - OEF...we slowed Al-Qaeda down, cost them millions upon millions of dollars, Killed Bin Laden and other senior leaders, took out the Taliban, and helped out with having the freedom of elections.

Wars have been in play for millions of years. Beginning in the biblical times.....unto today. War occurs almost predictably.

You post is confusing....especially in the questioning.

But in the big sense....war is almost inevitable. There are at times when an aggressor chews off more than they can handle....such as in the US Military. Terrorism must be fought against. Terrorism must be destroyed...if not destroyed greatly reduced.


Shadow 355 ( Former US Military )