If Trump has his property seized, he will seize the WH in 2024. Over 22,000 New Yorkers will be made unemployed.

[Catsnmeters]

Forget it. You’re too brainwashed to see that this is selective prosecution, election interference, and a violation of Trump’s constitutional rights.

It's none of those things.

What it is is Trump's 3rd time being caught for fraud. It's a pattern.

 

[martybegan]

It's none of those things.

What it is is Trump's 3rd time being caught for fraud. It's a pattern.

What. Fraud. You. Dense. SJW. Lefty. Turdburglar?

 

[Lisa558]

It's none of those things.

What it is is Trump's 3rd time being caught for fraud. It's a pattern.

Yes, it’s all of those things.

1) Selective prosecution: there is nobody who has been charged under the same circumstances, with no victim and no damages.

2) Election interference: timed to knock Trump out of the lead by using his time and energy and lock up the money he was going to use for his campaign

3) Violation of rights: Excessive penalty in view of the fact there was $0 damages

 

[Catsnmeters]

What. Fraud. You. Dense. SJW. Lefty. Turdburglar?

You will have to read for yourself.

It's a lot of stuff.

Read the full civil fraud trial ruling imposing penalty of over $350 million against Trump

Judge Arthur Engoron issued his decision after a 2½-month trial that saw the Republican presidential front-runner bristling under oath that he was the victim of a rigged legal system.

www.google.com

Oh, I'm an independent, not a lefty.

 

[Rawley]

All I did was get a speeding ticket.

I didn't hurt anyone. Nobody was injured. No victim.

Taking it to court.

You broke the law. Trump didn't. If that was the point you were attempting with your analogy.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Yes, it’s all of those things.

1) Selective prosecution: there is nobody who has been charged under the same circumstances, with no victim and no damages.

Many have.

Other Fraud Cases, Dockets and Filings in New York

New York Other Fraud Cases filed in New York

dockets.justia.com

2) Election interference: timed to knock Trump out of the lead by using his time and energy and lock up the money he was going to use for his campaign

Just because Trump is a candidate does not make him above the law.

That would be banana republic type stuff.

3) Violation of rights: Excessive penalty in view of the fact there was $0 damages

It was just disgorgement. How much of the fraudulently obtained money do you think Trump should get to keep?

 

[Catsnmeters]

You broke the law.

How? Who was the victim?

Trump didn't.

Yes he did.

If that was the point you were attempting with your analogy.

Yes. Thanks.

 

[Rawley]

No, because Trump lied to them.

Nope

A victim is not required.

70 years of enforcement of this statute and there's always been victims, 100% of the time. Until the Leticia/Engoron clown show.

 

[Rawley]

How? Who was the victim?



Yes he did.


Yes. Thanks.

You really need to put your Trump hate aside. It's clouding your judgment.

 

[Lisa558]

Many have.

Other Fraud Cases, Dockets and Filings in New York

New York Other Fraud Cases filed in New York

dockets.justia.com

Just because Trump is a candidate does not make him above the law.

That would be banana republic type stuff.


It was just disgorgement. How much of the fraudulently obtained money do you think Trump should get to keep?

All those cases you cited were one company suing another for fraud because they were DAMAGED as a result.

Find me a case where the state of New York sues an individual for contracting with a company where the company is happy - and not only didn’t suffer damages, but made a fortune and wanted to do more of the same.

There was no fraudently obtained money. The bank knew what they were doing, and chose to give Trump a discounted rate in order to win him as a client - and make a fortune. Which they did.

This whole thing, and the other nothing cases, shows how desperate the Democrats are to block the people from selecting the president they want.

 

[Lisa558]

Nope

70 years of enforcement of this statute and there's always been victims, 100% of the time. Until the Leticia/Engoron clown show.

Yup. The entire thing should be tossed. And then, in 2028, when Trump completes his term, he should see the bejesus out of New York, and both the Wicked Witch and the Frankenstein Judge for everything they’ve got.

 

[Rawley]

Yup. The entire thing should be tossed. And then, in 2028, when Trump completes his term, he should see the bejesus out of New York, and both the Wicked Witch and the Frankenstein Judge for everything they’ve got.

He can make their life hell as President.

 

[22lcidw]

You will have to read for yourself.

It's a lot of stuff.

Read the full civil fraud trial ruling imposing penalty of over $350 million against Trump

Judge Arthur Engoron issued his decision after a 2½-month trial that saw the Republican presidential front-runner bristling under oath that he was the victim of a rigged legal system.

www.google.com

Oh, I'm an independent, not a lefty.

If Joe wins the agenda, then has low-income housing being built in the suburbs. Oh, the soccer moms will have a crisis moment on their progressive socialist views.

 

[Lisa558]

He can make their life hell as President.

I don’t think he can sue while he’s President. So how else can he make their lives hell?

 

[Rawley]

I don’t think he can sue while he’s President. So how else can he make their lives hell?

Cut their funding.

 

[Lisa558]

Cut their funding.

Just like he can cut funding to the liberal universities being infiltrated by Arab money and thus are breeding grounds for antisemitism.

More than that, we need a law that foreign governments cannot buy influence at colleges. Our enemies are turning gullible students into America-haters and Jew-haters.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Nobody will be unemployed. They will work for other companies. Legit companies who pay taxes and stuff.

Trump and his companies pay every dollar of taxes that are legally owed. Both the IRS and the New York state tax people have been up his but with a proctoscope for a decade or more and have never found a sliver of a hint of tax evasion.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Every commercial real estate broker in NYC has said that what Trump did is simply how business is conducted... and has been conducted for years.

If I go to the bank to borrow money and I estimate that my $500k home is worth $1 million, and the bank says "okay", and gives me the loan against the property... is that illegal?

Keep in mind that I didn't force the bank to accept my estimate or even give me the loan...

That's the extent of Trump's "fraud"... not to mention that loans were paid back in full and on time.

This is a political witch hunt, and nothing more.

It's worse than that, the banks didn't loan on Trump's valuation, they did their own and lent on that valuation.

 

[Lisa558]

It's worse than that, the banks didn't loan on Trump's valuation, they did their own and lent on that valuation.

They did that because they wanted to be able to offer Trump a great interest rate and capture his business. They were very happy they did.

 

[struth]

Wow, the Appeals court already stepped in and lowered the bond amount....clearly they want this case....not a good sign for the demafascsit