If this isn't collusion what would you call it?

[berg80]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Conspiring with Wikileaks, an entity being used as a Russian asset during 2016, to disseminate stolen documents with the intent to influence the election is sinister and illegal behavior.

Liar.

I'm sorry that you find the facts inconvenient to the fatuous lies being spun by Trump, Barr, and RWM. But forensic evidence proves Russia stole the material and gave it to Wikileaks to publish. These facts are beyond dispute. Multiple members of the campaign cited Stone as their contact with Wikileaks. Mueller has evidence in his report of Stone's contacts with Wikileaks. Only Stone's refusal to cooperate with Mueller prevented Mueller from being able to prove a conspiracy.

But forensic evidence proves Russia stole the material and gave it to Wikileaks to publish.

Is that better or worse than giving it to the Washington Post or New York Times to publish?

Multiple members of the campaign cited Stone as their contact with Wikileaks.

So what? You could have contact with Wikileaks, still not a crime.

Mueller has evidence in his report of Stone's contacts with Wikileaks.

And?

Only Stone's refusal to cooperate with Mueller prevented Mueller from being able to prove a conspiracy.

Conspiracy to do what?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Is there a law against getting dirt from Russians? Link?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Is there a law against getting dirt from Russians? Link?

Which is ironic that Democrats shit their panties over this because it was they who proactively engaged a proxy to work with the Russians to get dirt on Trump and then used said information as basis and justification with the FISA Courts. The Democrats are full of shit when they go after Trump for lies and corruption from their glass houses.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"A significant recent revelation in the Russia investigation has been largely overlooked in the rush of several breaking news stories over the past few days. A nugget of information is contained in the memo written by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee (the so-called Schiff Memo), which was released on Saturday morning.

Prior to the memo, we knew that a Russian agent told Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos of “Moscow possessing ‘dirt’” on Hillary Clinton “in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” according to Papadopoulos’s plea statement. The memo went a legally significant step further. As Rep. Adam Schiff recently told Chris Hayes, “our memo discloses for the first time that the Russians preview to Papadopoulos that they could help with disseminating these stolen emails.” Rep. Schiff added, “When Donald Trump openly called on the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails, they’d be richly rewarded if they released these to the press, his campaign had already been put on notice that the Russians were prepared to do just that and disseminate these stolen emails.” (The full transcript and video clip is below.)"

Russia "Previewed" Plan to Disseminate Emails with Trump Campaign - Just Security

Goodman analyzes Schiff’s revelation that Russia gave preview to Trump campaign that the Kremlin could help disseminate stolen emails. Then he addresses the legally important question of what the Trump campaign did afterwards, which helps explain why Mueller’s team is asking former campaign...

www.justsecurity.org

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Do we know all there is to know about the extent to which the Trump campaign was notified of, or involved in, the timing of Wikileaks' release of the hacked info given to them by the Russians? No.

Why is that? Most importantly, because Roger Stone was one of the Trump associates who either lied to or withheld truthful info from Mueller. He was the campaign's point man with respect to contacts with Wikileaks.

Trump campaign associates ‘materially impaired’ investigation by lying, Mueller says

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election said Trump campaign associates “materially impaired” the inves…

thehill.com

Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

Trump had told special counsel Robert Mueller last November in a written response, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with" Roger Stone.

www.cnbc.com

If colluding with Russia causes an economic boon in the US, then collude on!

Funny, and agree!

 

[berg80]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Is there a law against getting dirt from Russians? Link?

Yes.

Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

The special counsel couldn’t prove Junior knew he might be committing crimes.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Dragonlady]

Of course, the matter of the collusion over the release of the material illegally stolen by Russia and given to Wikileaks was not the only example.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

Essential reading on the Mueller Report: an annotation plus key findings, drawing on investigative reports and Special Counsel court filings.

www.justsecurity.org

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The contested swing states that Trump narrowly—and surprisingly—won, such as Michigan and Wisconsin, were also places where both the Trump campaign and Russia’s Internet Research Agency focussed their efforts. Herein lies at least one answer to the question of why Russia would want the Trump campaign’s polling data: it potentially offered demographic targets for Russia’s bots and propaganda.

Why Would Paul Manafort Share Polling Data with Russia?

At least one reason why Russia would want the Trump campaign’s polling data is that it potentially offered granular demographic targets for Russia’s bots and propaganda.

www.newyorker.com

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What better way for Russia to make the best use of their efforts in swing states than to have some proprietary internal polling data from Trump's campaign to use to target voters who were potentially able to be persuaded to vote for the Bigot-in-Chief?

You say that like you think polling data is equivalent to state secrets?

What the fuck is wrong with you? lol

The personal preferences and information tens of millions of Americans which Republicans spent millions of dollars gathering, parsing, and exploiting couldn't possibly of any use to a hostile foreign government looking to run a disinformation campaign to undermine the American people's faith in their government. No why would it be wrong to give THAT information to someone looking to destroy your country.

I mean here we are three years later and disinformation and propaganda being fed to the American people isn't a problem in the corona virus response, now is it? It's not like the USA is the experiencing the greatest amount of illness and death in the worl, and your economy is collapsing as a result of the misinformation being fed to the American people via the Billionaire Media, which is profitting by exploiting America's fear and paranoia aided and abetted by the President and the Russians.

Trump's corona virus response is so bad and doing such damage to the American economy that Putin would be popping champagne corks right now, if not for his own corona virus clusterfuck.

A) i gauruntee you the chinese have had more corona virus deaths

B) we are still per capita behind many nations

C) the death counts are fucked in teh states, and probably everywehre else

I'll say it again. Where teh fuck are you guys when it's time to crush Israeli colluders? You're nowhere to be found.

Yet you're worrying about Russians.....Who we due to us both being great powers can never ever really come to terms with. Irrelevant of our leader. Policy on russia has barely changed at all.

Policy on Israel on the otherhand has had monumental shifts in the Trump adminstration. Why the fuck would you point fingers at Russians when it's clearly Israelis who have undue influence in the trump administration/ Nothign comes close to our shift on israel in the last 4 years

Because Russia is out to undermine and destroy the government of the USA. Israel is your ally.

Russia continues to do spread divisive propaganda in the USA.

 

[Juicin]

Of course, the matter of the collusion over the release of the material illegally stolen by Russia and given to Wikileaks was not the only example.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

Essential reading on the Mueller Report: an annotation plus key findings, drawing on investigative reports and Special Counsel court filings.

www.justsecurity.org

......................................................................................................................................

The contested swing states that Trump narrowly—and surprisingly—won, such as Michigan and Wisconsin, were also places where both the Trump campaign and Russia’s Internet Research Agency focussed their efforts. Herein lies at least one answer to the question of why Russia would want the Trump campaign’s polling data: it potentially offered demographic targets for Russia’s bots and propaganda.

Why Would Paul Manafort Share Polling Data with Russia?

At least one reason why Russia would want the Trump campaign’s polling data is that it potentially offered granular demographic targets for Russia’s bots and propaganda.

www.newyorker.com

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What better way for Russia to make the best use of their efforts in swing states than to have some proprietary internal polling data from Trump's campaign to use to target voters who were potentially able to be persuaded to vote for the Bigot-in-Chief?

You say that like you think polling data is equivalent to state secrets?

What the fuck is wrong with you? lol

The personal preferences and information tens of millions of Americans which Republicans spent millions of dollars gathering, parsing, and exploiting couldn't possibly of any use to a hostile foreign government looking to run a disinformation campaign to undermine the American people's faith in their government. No why would it be wrong to give THAT information to someone looking to destroy your country.

I mean here we are three years later and disinformation and propaganda being fed to the American people isn't a problem in the corona virus response, now is it? It's not like the USA is the experiencing the greatest amount of illness and death in the worl, and your economy is collapsing as a result of the misinformation being fed to the American people via the Billionaire Media, which is profitting by exploiting America's fear and paranoia aided and abetted by the President and the Russians.

Trump's corona virus response is so bad and doing such damage to the American economy that Putin would be popping champagne corks right now, if not for his own corona virus clusterfuck.

A) i gauruntee you the chinese have had more corona virus deaths

B) we are still per capita behind many nations

C) the death counts are fucked in teh states, and probably everywehre else

I'll say it again. Where teh fuck are you guys when it's time to crush Israeli colluders? You're nowhere to be found.

Yet you're worrying about Russians.....Who we due to us both being great powers can never ever really come to terms with. Irrelevant of our leader. Policy on russia has barely changed at all.

Policy on Israel on the otherhand has had monumental shifts in the Trump adminstration. Why the fuck would you point fingers at Russians when it's clearly Israelis who have undue influence in the trump administration/ Nothign comes close to our shift on israel in the last 4 years

Because Russia is out to undermine and destroy the government of the USA. Israel is your ally.

Russia continues to do spread divisive propaganda in the USA.

Israel is not our ally

Our interests do not align

FUcking vietnam is a more natural ally than israel

 

[LeftofLeft]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Is there a law against getting dirt from Russians? Link?

Yes.

Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

The special counsel couldn’t prove Junior knew he might be committing crimes.

www.vanityfair.com

What is the Law and what/how is that different - legally and ethically- compared to Hillary and the Democrats proactively using a proxy to engage with Russian agents to “get dirt on Trump?”

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Adam Schiff quotes conversations he fabricated in his head as fact.

Schiff was referring to the signed confession of Papadopoulos regarding Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Do you have any other lies I can correct for you or is that all?

Russia's offer to provide "dirt" on Hillary to the campaign.

Is there a law against getting dirt from Russians? Link?

Yes.

Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

The special counsel couldn’t prove Junior knew he might be committing crimes.

www.vanityfair.com

So post the law.