If the red states and blue states separated into two countries, what would result?

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Five years from now, if we looked back, what would we see? And what would we be doing next?

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Nothing Succeeds Like Liberal Secession Blue America Without Red America Would Be A Basket Case - Kurt Schlichter - Page full

Nothing Succeeds Like Liberal Secession: Blue America Without Red America Would Be A Basket Case

Kurt Schlichter | Dec 15, 2014

The July 4, 2019, ceremony marking the final dissolution of the United States of America was quite amicable compared to the anger and bitterness of the preceding five years. The 2014 election results created a map clearly defining “Red America” and “Blue America,” and it sparked a debate, unlike any in the last 150 years, over whether the United States should remain united. For many in the leftist coastal states – their progressivism constrained by the overwhelming Congressional advantage of the conservative interior states – the answer was, “No.”

As liberal thought leader Michael Tomasky wrote of the South, “Practically the whole region has rejected nearly everything that’s good about this country and has become just one big nuclear waste site of choleric, and extremely racialized, resentment…. Forget about the whole fetid place. Write it off. Let the GOP have it and run it and turn it into Free-Market Jesus Paradise. The Democrats don’t need it anyway.”

Soon, it became an article of faith within the liberal elite that it was not only their party that did not need the rest of America. Blue America itself, they argued, did not need Red America, economically, intellectually or morally. It was not long until newly-elected Governor De Blasio of New York demanded a national convention to discuss a parting of the ways. The President, her health poor and her heart firmly with the Blue America, half-heartedly tried to stop the movement, but more and more high profile Democrat politicians joined the chorus. The President yielded and called for a “national conversation on the way forward as separate nations.” Red America, furious at her continuation of Barack Obama’s rule by decree and interference in its affairs, agreed to attend.

Two years later, President De Blasio, elected leader of the Democratic States of North America, and President Abbott of the Republic of America, stood together on the platform on the border at St. Louis to sign the Dissolution Pact. The countries split the national debt and apportioned federal assets, while agreeing to temporarily share the currency. They divided the military (along with all nuclear capabilities), but signed a mutual defense agreement. There would be free travel between and through the new nations. “We will remain good neighbors,” President De Blasio remarked, “Even if we are no longer brothers, sisters, or differently-gendered siblings.” President Abbott politely maintained a poker face.

Of course, back home in the Blue America’s capital, New York City, President De Blasio was less charitable. “We are no longer held back by the reactionary, racist policies of the past,” he thundered. “Together, we will build a new dawn of progress that places people before profits and promotes peace instead of perpetual war!” Blue America – New England and the mid-Atlantic seaboard, back through Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, the West Coast and Hawaii, immediately set to drafting a new constitution. It featured 216 new affirmative rights, including “the right to a living wage,” “the right to abortion upon demand at government expense,” and “the right to define one’s own life experience in terms of race and gender.” Embarrassingly, the rights to free speech and the free exercise of religion did not make the leaked initial draft; they were hastily added, but there was no right to keep and bear arms. In fact, the first law the new People’s Assembly passed was to confiscate all privately-owned weapons. The second was to legalize all illegal aliens, and the third to triple welfare payments.

Red America reaffirmed the United States Constitution. Then the Congress began a review of all existing laws, statutes and regulations, repealing thousands of them. It also limited social spending dramatically, making known the expectation that able-bodied adults would support themselves and their families. The resulting non-military federal government in Red America was about one quarter the size of Blue America’s.
The world was unsure how to deal with the new reality. The international elite and its lapdog media quickly took to portraying Red America with the same kind of venom as Blue American liberals. President De Blasio was taped at a private confab at the United Nations – which remained in New York – telling the foreigners that Blue America, “feels a greater kinship to our progressive friends in Europe than those redneck, racist, Jesus freaks next door.”

Red America stopped paying its UN dues and sent John Bolton to be its ambassador. After Israel, Red America became the most investigated and censured of any UN member state.

Blue America had little use for the military it inherited. Though the Pact had stipulated that both new nations would maintain a certain level of combat readiness, in Blue America the services were first in line to be cut. Forced to meet America’s defense needs alone, Red America slashed non-military spending and instituted two years of mandatory military service for every citizen as the only way to meet the need for manpower.

Many left Red America, some to avoid the draft and a larger number to collect the enhanced welfare benefits Blue America was giving away. Yet, many more came in from Blue America. By casting off useless regulations and cutting taxes (Blue America’s “Fair Share Act” increased the top income tax rate to 74.5% on earnings over $250,000), Red America unleashed a whirlwind of economic activity. Red America, already prosperous, grew even richer.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL - a must-read!)
 
This storyline could be a mildly interesting telenovela.
 
The pathetic residents of the blue states would be acting like wetbacks, sneaking into the red states looking for a handout.
 
When the end comes the country won't divide. It will fracture into many tiny pieces. Miichigan will be the islamic state of Miichigan. Lower California, Arizona and New Mexico will be provinces of Mexico. Northern California will be New China. There won't be such a thing as a division.
 
Since we're indulging wild fantasy, I support whichever side will grant me a title of nobility. Lord of the Confluence suits me rather nicely.
 
This is patently ridiculous. We are 'United' for a reason. It is foolish to dissolve our union over political differences. That happens to be what triggered the Civil War!
 
Well since the red states pretty much only exist because of blue state money I assume the south would become a 3rd world country.

The north would probably not be affected much.






The blue states have the most people. The red states produce the food. You do the math.
 
Well since the red states pretty much only exist because of blue state money I assume the south would become a 3rd world country.

The north would probably not be affected much.

Guess you haven't looked at the map lately, huh? 16 states, geographically separated. Guess you'd have to travel thru Red America to get anywhere, huh? Good luck with that shipping thing.
 
Well since the red states pretty much only exist because of blue state money I assume the south would become a 3rd world country.

The north would probably not be affected much.






The blue states have the most people. The red states produce the food. You do the math.

Yep. The blue states would be full of folks wanting someone to take care of them. Pay their bills. Buy their food and basically support them for life.

The red states would be full of can do people who don't need anyone to take care of em and wouldn't expect anyone to take care of them.

I'll take the red states thank you very much.
 
The blue states are for the most part losing population or are barely growing. Who-the-fuck wants to live in Michigan, California, New York or Illinois for example. They're shit holes.

You have sky high taxes....corrupt politicians...and shitty schools.

That's why the red states are growing like crazy. The blue state folks with a brain are getting the fuck out. :)
 
[Yep. The blue states would be full of folks wanting someone to take care of them. Pay their bills. Buy their food and basically support them for life.
The red states would be full of can do people who don't need anyone to take care of em and wouldn't expect anyone to take care of them.
I'll take the red states thank you very much.
Check your facts. The red states consume much more in federal handouts than the blue.

The Red Blue Paradox - Reason.com
 
[Yep. The blue states would be full of folks wanting someone to take care of them. Pay their bills. Buy their food and basically support them for life.
The red states would be full of can do people who don't need anyone to take care of em and wouldn't expect anyone to take care of them.
I'll take the red states thank you very much.
Check your facts. The red states consume much more in federal handouts than the blue.

The Red Blue Paradox - Reason.com


Bullshit. The same lie has been told a million times. Retelling it does make it true.

The majority of military and other Government assets are in Red States. That's not a fucking hand out nimrod.

My home State of Virginia gets a lot of Federal money. Why? Norfolk Naval Base in the largest naval base in the world. There is the Pentagon....CIA headquarters.....Langley AFB.....The Federal Reserve in Richmond. Quantico. Yorktown Naval Weapons Station.

I could go on...but you get the idea.

Now many federal facilities are in Vermont? How about Maine or Iowa...New York?

What fucking stupidity.
 
Check your facts. The red states consume much more in federal handouts than the blue. The Red Blue Paradox - Reason.com
Bullshit. The same lie has been told a million times. Retelling it does make it true.The majority of military and other Government assets are in Red States. That's not a fucking hand out nimrod.My home State of Virginia gets a lot of Federal money. Why? Norfolk Naval Base in the largest naval base in the world. There is the Pentagon....CIA headquarters.....Langley AFB.....The Federal Reserve in Richmond. Quantico. Yorktown Naval Weapons Station.
Since when has the military been a handout, shortbus? The article cited said handouts. It didn't say anything about federal facilties, military or otherwise. But, to answer you question, blue states have many federal facilities. If you weren't so near-sighted, you'd see it for yourself, right across the line in MD.
 

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