If ICE deports illegal-alien parents with US-born kids, are they the ones "breaking up the family"?

[NYcarbineer]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

TRANSLATION: Uh-oh, I can't answer the questions! Quick, let's change the subject!

State for the record your position on the Elian Gonzalez case, or, run away and hide.

 

[2aguy]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

TRANSLATION: Uh-oh, I can't answer the questions! Quick, let's change the subject!

State for the record your position on the Elian Gonzalez case, or, run away and hide.

Elian Gonzalez is the one immigrant you left wing assholes wanted sent back...and he was legal......

 

[Little-Acorn]

That's easy . They have to go .
The tougher scenario is when u have a legal mom and citizen baby but ilegal hubby .
Shipping dad off does break up the family , no?

Nope. Daddy making babies when he could be deported any time, breaks up the family. ICE had nothing to do with it.

It was between illegal-alien Daddy and U.S. immigration law. ICE was merely the tool used to make sure the laws were obeyed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

Because his father was divorced from the mother and was demanding him under duress because castro wanted the kid back, not the father.

You lie.

Nope....his parents were divorced....Elián González - Wikipedia

Elián González was born December 6, 1993 to divorced parents.[5]

So what? His father is his father.

You are making a fucking fool of yourself. Stop. It's nauseating.

asswipe......Cuba is a prison island...the boy was free and with relatives....his mother tried to get him here...she would not have wanted him to go back...

How is it that all of a fucking sudden you left wing assholes suddenly cared about what the father of a child wanted?

lol, comical flip flop noted.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

TRANSLATION: Uh-oh, I can't answer the questions! Quick, let's change the subject!

State for the record your position on the Elian Gonzalez case, or, run away and hide.

Elian Gonzalez is the one immigrant you left wing assholes wanted sent back...and he was legal......

Nice meltdown. Case closed.

 

[2aguy]

Because his father was divorced from the mother and was demanding him under duress because castro wanted the kid back, not the father.

You lie.

Nope....his parents were divorced....Elián González - Wikipedia

Elián González was born December 6, 1993 to divorced parents.[5]

So what? His father is his father.

You are making a fucking fool of yourself. Stop. It's nauseating.

asswipe......Cuba is a prison island...the boy was free and with relatives....his mother tried to get him here...she would not have wanted him to go back...

How is it that all of a fucking sudden you left wing assholes suddenly cared about what the father of a child wanted?

lol, comical flip flop noted.

Yeah...how is that a flip flop, moron.....?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Any other crime and the dad goes to prison and we don't discuss breaking up families. So maybe the solution is a giant border prison for these people.

 

[2aguy]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

TRANSLATION: Uh-oh, I can't answer the questions! Quick, let's change the subject!

State for the record your position on the Elian Gonzalez case, or, run away and hide.

Elian Gonzalez is the one immigrant you left wing assholes wanted sent back...and he was legal......

Nice meltdown. Case closed.

Oh....allow me to translate....

Translation begins:

2aguy just pointed out what a fucking hypocrite we are as left wingers.....we only cared about Elian Gonzalez because he came from Cuba....otherwise we would have been fighting to let him stay in this country.....after all, since when do we ever care what the father wants......

End Translation.

 

[2aguy]

Any other crime and the dad goes to prison and we don't discuss breaking up families. So maybe the solution is a giant border prison for these people.

In this case...just like Bruce Lee....the kid can go home to Mexico with the parents and then come back when they are adults......or, they can live with legal family members here in this country........

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Any other crime and the dad goes to prison and we don't discuss breaking up families. So maybe the solution is a giant border prison for these people.

In this case...just like Bruce Lee....the kid can go home to Mexico with the parents and then come back when they are adults......or, they can live with legal family members here in this country........

A friend of mine in Arizona did just that. Other than his English taking a small hit he was fine.

 

[Bush92]

Nope. Should not have came here illegally to begin with. Fuck them and their kids.

 

[Clementine]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

That was a different situation. The mother risked her life to get the son away from the father and the horrible life he faced.

Libs took the boy at gunpoint. They are so in love with dictatorships that they weren't going to piss off Cuba.

 

[Clementine]

If ICE deports illegal-alien parents with US-born kids, are they the ones "breaking up the family"?


Happens a lot these days. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deportation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

It's the fault of the parents. When they are deported, it's the fault of Mexico for refusing to allow the children in their country. Why aren't they willing to grant citizenship to the children of their own citizens?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

That was a different situation. The mother risked her life to get the son away from the father and the horrible life he faced.

Libs took the boy at gunpoint. They are so in love with dictatorships that they weren't going to piss off Cuba.

Libs returned the boy to his FAMILY at gunpoint. Not surprising that conservatives fought that.

Conservatives, those who put partisan evil above family.

 

[g5000]

Oh, my.

The rabid Trump-haters and open-borders crowd don't want to touch this one.

Who can blame them?

The truth always works against the leftists' agenda.

You spoke too soon, didn't you tard.

 

[g5000]

Illegal alien parents have two choices if they have minor children and are about to be deported. It's so simple, even a pseudocon tard could figure it out.

Oh, wait...

Anyway. They could leave their child(ren) with a relative who is a legal resident or citizen of the U.S., or they can take the child(ren) back to their home country until the child(ren) reach legal age, at which time the child(ren) can return to the U.S. as is their birthright.

 

[Winston]

Any other crime and the dad goes to prison and we don't discuss breaking up families. So maybe the solution is a giant border prison for these people.

In this case...just like Bruce Lee....the kid can go home to Mexico with the parents and then come back when they are adults......or, they can live with legal family members here in this country........

Or perhaps a friend's parent, or a teacher, or a member of the community, even a white one. I am proud to say I live in a part of America where that happens. I can think of two cases immediately. One, a high school student, top of the class--parents deported. People lined up to take her in. Not even going to tell you what she is doing now. Let's just say she is paying alot of taxes.

Another time, elementary school student. Same thing, parents deported. She went with them. Did not last long. After the community found out about her lack of access to a quality school in Honduras, they bought her back, and managed to clear the legal hurdles for her mother to come along.

Yeah, I know it is a cliche. But around here, well the community has always been a big part of "raising the children", and we don't let go of them easily, no matter the color, nationality, or citizenship status of their parents.

 

[2aguy]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

That was a different situation. The mother risked her life to get the son away from the father and the horrible life he faced.

Libs took the boy at gunpoint. They are so in love with dictatorships that they weren't going to piss off Cuba.

Libs returned the boy to his FAMILY at gunpoint. Not surprising that conservatives fought that.

Conservatives, those who put partisan evil above family.

Nope...he was with his family here.......his father was a prisoner on a prison island with no free will to make a decision on the boy.

 

[2aguy]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

That was a different situation. The mother risked her life to get the son away from the father and the horrible life he faced.

Libs took the boy at gunpoint. They are so in love with dictatorships that they weren't going to piss off Cuba.

Libs returned the boy to his FAMILY at gunpoint. Not surprising that conservatives fought that.

Conservatives, those who put partisan evil above family.

The first time left wingers wanted a child returned to the father....that he was a prisoner on a socialist island prison was the big selling point for them...freedom burns a left winger like a cross does a vampire....

 

[Clementine]

Why then was the overwhelming consensus on the Right that Elian Gonzalez should not be reunited with his father?

That was a different situation. The mother risked her life to get the son away from the father and the horrible life he faced.

Libs took the boy at gunpoint. They are so in love with dictatorships that they weren't going to piss off Cuba.

Libs returned the boy to his FAMILY at gunpoint. Not surprising that conservatives fought that.

Conservatives, those who put partisan evil above family.

Nope...he was with his family here.......his father was a prisoner on a prison island with no free will to make a decision on the boy.

That was the Clinton administration sucking up to a commie dictator. They get angry when any of their citizens escape. Only a liberal would think a child is better off in Cuba being raised by tyrants.