If ICE deports illegal-alien parents with US-born kids, are they the ones "breaking up the family"?

[Dschrute3]

Yes, but the issue has to be addressed humanely.

Really? It should have been "addressed humanely" years ago, by the parents either not breaking our immigration law, or not producing kids once they did break the law. I can't see any other "humane" solution, can you?

I agree, the parents willfully broke our laws. I fully support ending Illegal Immigration. But like Trump said, this is an incredibly tough issue. It has to be handled humanely.

 

[Crixus]

No, I mean follow the current law and send them all back.

Current law says the kids stay if their parents want them to. The kids are U.S. citizens, ICE has no authority to send them anywhere.

No it doesn't,but that's an argument for another thread. What you said there is what the news people tell you to say.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Yes, but the issue has to be addressed humanely.

Really? It should have been "addressed humanely" years ago, by the parents either not breaking our immigration law, or not producing kids once they did break the law. I can't see any other "humane" solution, can you?

I agree, the parents willfully broke our laws. I fully support ending Illegal Immigration. But like Trump said, this is an incredibly tough issue. It has to be handled humanely.

The parents eliminated ALL humane solutions when they brought children into a situation where their parents could be deported at any time..

How do you handle this "humanely" when the illegal-alien parents destroyed all possible humane solutions?

Once again, we have to ask the illegal-alien parents who are being deported, "What did you intend to do with your children in this situation?"

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is no crime under which having children is a get out of jail free card. There is no civil wrong in which children absolves a parent of culpability.

 

[Little-Acorn]

If the illegal-alien parents have eliminated any possible "humane" solutions, what exactly should ICE do?

ICE has no authority to deport the kids, since they were born in the U.S. and are considered American citizens, and they have done nothing wrong. But deciding NOT to deport the parents is contrary to the law - as you said, having children is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for lawbreakers.

What exactly should ICE do?

Anything ICE does is necessarily "inhumane", since no other options are open to them.

But whose fault is that?

 

[featherlite]

Yes, but the issue has to be addressed humanely.

Really? It should have been "addressed humanely" years ago, by the parents either not breaking our immigration law, or not producing kids once they did break the law. I can't see any other "humane" solution, can you?

Some people say Trump should have given all illegals one year to come forward and do the right thing. After that year deport away. I say it will be an upheaval no matter what is done....its time to enforce it.
Unfortunately kids become the victims when they have lawbreaking parents.

 

[Rambunctious]

The only time a family is "broken up" is when one member of the family is a felon.

 

[whitehall]

Apparently nobody is preventing the kids from going along. It brings to mind a young Cuban boy who's mother died bringing him to the U.S. and Clinton federal agents hunted him down and kidnapped him at gunpoint and sent him back to the people's paradise in Cuba. How did that work out?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Yes, but the issue has to be addressed humanely.

Really? It should have been "addressed humanely" years ago, by the parents either not breaking our immigration law, or not producing kids once they did break the law. I can't see any other "humane" solution, can you?

I agree, the parents willfully broke our laws. I fully support ending Illegal Immigration. But like Trump said, this is an incredibly tough issue. It has to be handled humanely.

The parents eliminated ALL humane solutions when they brought children into a situation where their parents could be deported at any time..

How do you handle this "humanely" when the illegal-alien parents destroyed all possible humane solutions?

Once again, we have to ask the illegal-alien parents who are being deported, "What did you intend to do with your children in this situation?"

They were counting on their children to be the shield between them and the law. Guess that's gone now so they better plan B this situation.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Some people say Trump should have given all illegals one year to come forward and do the right thing.

Obama already gave them EIGHT years to do the right thing.

After that year deport away.

I agree. It's time.

 

[Little-Acorn]

If ICE deports illegal-alien parents with US-born kids, are they the ones "breaking up the family"?

Happens a lot these days. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deportation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Recently ICE arrested an illegal alien after he picked up his daughter from school. They waited until he had driven half a mile from the school, then pulled him over and busted him.

Whose fault was it that the girl was in danger of losing her father when he was deported?

ICE's fault? Or the illegal-alien father's fault?