If I Were Catholic.....

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by SweetSue92, Aug 31, 2018.

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    Never going to happen.
     
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    According to Pope John it is possible for Jews or Protestants to go to Heaven even without Catholic baptism.

    Who would have thunk it ??
     
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    Already has, read all about it.
     
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    Meriweather Not all who wander are lost

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    Every Catholic. At least, every Catholic who is at least somewhat familiar with Catholicism and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is not anything new.
     
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    Catholic belief: except for the saints we know about, we do not know who is in heaven now.

    Catholic belief: no one knows their fate.
     
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    If you just want to point out sinners we can go on ad infinitum. That's not the issue here. The issue is sin in the clergy--sin used BY the clergy to prey on young people and then COVERED UP by higher clergy. On a massive scale.

    You used THAT to go on and on about The Joooooooos
     
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    As I linked in another post, I'm not sure it's lower--at least equal to the general population. But I'm glad you've changed your policies. And I don't know why people who are in their 40s and 50s should be prevented from filing lawsuits on this behavior which has no doubt affected them deeply, probably for their entire lives. Some of it was quite disturbing.

    I agree with you that the media would always select a Christian faith over any other--but they select Catholicism because the cover ups were as pervasive as the crimes. And that's shoddy, really.
     
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    ...but you arent Catholic
    The church is huge and you have no idea what is happening with all Catholics, you especially have no right advising them to leave their faith.

    The hierarchy and protection within the ranks of leaders is the main problem and you are right ... its way past time they to do something about it.
     
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    Meriweather Not all who wander are lost

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    Cover-ups were just as prevalent in every faith--back-in-the-day. It was happening in schools, homes, sports, clubs, Protestants, Catholics, Jews, etc. The media happened to single out Catholics. I am glad they did, because we were among the first to clean up our act. Some organizations are still working to get to where we are now. The media did a shoddy job in reporting the entire shameful story/secret in society back then. With the Pennsylvania story, the media did a shoddy job of telling of changes that took place three decades ago.

    As far as extending the statute of limitations: This raises complex issues, not so much for the Church as for society. For example, a fifty-year-old with a "recovered memory" claims that a teacher, now deceased, molested him and wants to sue the school district. However, I am with you in thinking the diocese who knows someone suffered abuse fifty years ago should do the right thing.
     
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    Somebody, time to grab a whip..................................
     

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