If I Were Catholic.....

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    First, if I were Catholic with all this sex abuse and cover up going on, I probably wouldn't remain a Catholic to be honest. But if I were convinced to my soul that Catholicism were the way to go (for whatever reason), I would not give one thin dime to the organization until it had convinced me it had cleaned up its act.

    Not one thin dime, Catholics. Being an advocate for children of many years' duration, I urge you to STOP ALL GIVING until they have cleaned up this massive stench of corruption.
     
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    This report has been rehashed, I am a RC and I will remain. How about all the scout leaders and their pedophilia, how about Moore, how about all the Protestants. I come from a long line of RC and a large family and married into a large RC family, never has anyone been sexually molested, and I have known a lot of altar boys.

    and here's another How about the Hasidic in NY. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why doesn't the jewish DA write an article about the Hasidic Jews in NY. It about time they pay.

    I also think the non denominations like the Evans and fundies have a lot of pedophilia preachers.
     
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    Deflection, deflection, deflection. NONE of those incidents you mention have been as ongoing, as pervasive, or as covered-up as the Catholic sex scandals. I mean seriously?

    Are you still giving money to this scandalous organization?
     
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    They go back to the 40's and I suspect most are fake. I'm not deflecting, I want the Hasidic to get whats coming to them. they still do the sucking circumcision.

    I want all the protestants to get caught, all the scout masters, and talk about Jim Jordan, he knew what was going on , he needs to be questioned under oath.
     
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    I'm not giving up my faith because a small group of men handled this scandal abominably. The Church is run by people. People sometimes make mistakes. It will be cleaned up. The Church that Jesus Christ founded offers me too many ways to praise God, gain a deeper understanding of Him, and in turn try to do His will. I won't let anyone take that away from me.
     
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    Okay frankly, this is appalling. To be honest. If this were my denomination, I'd be so disgusted and hopping mad I'd do no pointing of fingers to ANYONE else's denomination at this point. Except say, you're right, you're right, you're right--and here are the steps we are going to take to get to the bottom of it. Right now, today, before we give another dime.

    But from Catholics what we mostly get are deflection and blame-shifting, which is just reprehensible.
     
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    Now I find that to be an honest, faith-filled response that I can respect. I can't agree with it necessarily, because I don't think Catholics own the only way to Jesus, but I had to rate it something good, so I rated it informative.

    Make your leaders accountable, I hope you will! Good Catholics deserve so much better. And I know many good Catholics!
     
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    I'm thinking the Catholic Church should have a no tolerance policy and the sooner the better..

    Granted they are known for forgiveness and redemption etc.


    9 Myths about Priestly Pedophilia

    1. Catholic priests are more likely to be pedophiles than other groups of men.

    This is just plain false. There's absolutely no evidence that priests are more likely to abuse children than are other groups of men. The use and abuse of children as objects for the sexual gratification of adults is epidemic in all classes, professions, religions, and ethnic communities across the globe, as figures on child pornography, incest, and child prostitution make abundantly clear. Pedophilia (the sexual abuse of a prepubescent child) among priests is extremely rare, affecting only 0.3% of the entire population of clergy.

    I would guess that liberals have a far higher percentage... :wink_2:
     
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    Okay first, I think you're parsing a bit here by limiting the abuse to "pedophilia". Abusing 12, 13 and 14 year olds is equally heinous, don't you think? And why wouldn't you expect the priest abuse rate to be substantially LOWER than the general population, not keeping pace with it--especially after years and years and years--with cover ups??
     
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    Thank you. By the way, Catholics don't believe they are the only way to Jesus either- we just think it's the best way!

    The lay faithful in the Catholic Church don't let their leaders off the hook. For example, many many changes have already happened at the parish level following the terrible abuse of alter boys. As for the mucky mucks higher up- things are in an upheaval now- as evidenced by the "leaking". They'll be some changes. As the saying goes, we live in interesting times.
     
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