If God was so powerful,

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    That he/she created the earth in 6 days, why wouldn't he/she be powerful enough to stop destruction and hate? If God created all that is life, why in the world was he/she be helpless to stop Eve from biting the apple, and killing paradise?

    I don't get it.
     
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    Who says it was an apple? Where do you get "killing paradise" from Eden?
     
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    What makes you think God couldnt stop Eve from eating the fruit? I could eat junk food, that doesnt mean Im going to.

    dont you see? Freedom and knowledge is more important than comfort
     
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    Bingo.

    God has a plan, and we can't see the plan because we aren't God.
     
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    It makes much more sense, from a historical perspective, that we are on our own and we had better learn to get along, because no god-parent is going to intervene in the greedy, selfish, playground cruelty we call 'humanity'.

    -Joe
     
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    Man was endowed with "free will". To the contrary of the message that atheism professes and propagates, Evil exists, therefore God cannot. The inverse is true, If evil actually exists in the world, and some things are indeed EVIL and not the way they should be.......then by Logic there must be a standard existing outside the realm of all that is natural to calibrate or measure the nature of evil....because EVIL does not exist in nature, it is only the human animal that is capable of evil actions. Thus, the question must be asked, where does man gain the knowledge to calibrate what is good or what is evil...if evil does not exist in nature? Can a snake be evil for acting the way it was designed or created? Is that snake considered evil for biting and injecting poison into the blood stream of a human that just happened to be danger close to that animal? Does not any action of evil have to come from "premeditation"? After all it is only man that has been endowed with the ability to reason His/Her own existence and mortality.

    If anyone really believes in the message of secular humanism or 'naturalism' that declares that all life was created naturally from DEAD matter by random happenstance, (Even though there has never been a single OBSERVED or repeatable experiment that has shown that nature has that capability) there can be no standard of calibration....evil cannot be defined, as it is merely SUBJECTIVE to any natural need or impulse...even rape or murder can be justified if rationalized in the proper manner.
     
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    This the "if God exists, why is there so much suffering in the world?" argument.

    I'd look at it another way - If there is no God, why is there so much love and understanding in the world?
     
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    I would enjoy seeing an atheist define EVIL, and present the empirical evidence as to where the required information might have came from to standardize and calibrate just what establishes an act as being absolutely evil.
     
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    If it were god's plan that they eat the fruit, combined with the bible saying that nothing happens that is not god's will... then we are not liable for playing a role god had us play- sin becomes meaningless, and so does the entire premise of your religion

    predetermination cannot exist with free will, sin, or salvation
     
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    God is a myth. A nice myth with good moral tales, but a myth nonetheless....He/She was invented to explain the unexplainable. All cultures have had some sort of God or other.
     
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