If Blacks started voting Republican, would the Dems finally focus on their actual problems?

[Aries]

Those possessing a college diploma, on average, earn A LOT more money than those with just a high school diploma.
In my day a college diploma didn’t matter so much. Today it’s almost required.

It is not.

It is almost required, yes it is. Unless you are an exception, you hit the lottery, can shoot hoops, have some special talent etc.
a college diploma is necesssary to climb out of poverty, absolutely.

If you want to tell your kids they don’t need it fine, they can serve mine burgers and fries as they are climbing the economic ladder to success.

Or they can learn a trade in a trade school somewhere and be middle or upper-middle class.

Possessing a degree in a trade still puts your earning potential higher. It is very important our population has access to higher education. Trades are needed and respected but for the majority of employment opportunities a degree has massive benefits.

Sure it has massive benefits, and it also puts you in massive debt.

My nephew is 32 years old and he took a second job at a department store just to try and pay back his college loans as soon as possible. His Masters degree landed him a good paying job, but not enough to pay the tens of thousands back that he owes. He works at a school for troubled children and of course is off all summer. He works just as many hours at the store in the summer as he does his regular job during the school year.

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

 

[Aries]

How does one appeal to the black vote?

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

I think you pointed out the problem and didn't even realize it. Maybe they don't need government for help in every aspect in life. Maybe they can do things on their own.

So why haven’t they?

Because they've been conditioned and even brainwashed by the Democrats that they are helpless. They can't do anything without a Democrat helping them.

That’s not insulting at all.

It couldn’t be that there’s been systemic racism against people of color since the beginning of our country.

No, they’ve just been brainwashed into believing something that doesn’t exist.

Don’t believe your own experiences, black folks. Ray from Cleveland knows better.

No brainer. Seems like Ray has no brain.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Just wondering what your opinions are on this hypothetical that wont happen.

 

[Aries]

Well a bad idea is electing a raging racist with decades of documented abuse to the blacks race.
How do you appeal to a demographic you don’t give a shit about? You don’t.

Lol yea.
I can tell the democrats love black people. They do wonders for them HA

Well... they continually push for education programs, raising the minimum wage, programs to help assist them when repubs vote down that pay raise.

Democrats also support illegals. Kind of white washes minimum wage and education reforms they don't give a shit about.

How do?

Since you are a grammar nazi I feel I should point out that is an incomplete sentence

Don’t avoid the question.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't know. Why don't Democrats?

We do
Democrats maintain community outreach offices in minority neighborhoods. Why won't Republicans

Why don't Republicans go to minority neighborhoods and point out all the good they do for the community?

So that's what Democrats gave the blacks--community outreach offices? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

Republicans can't go into minority neighborhoods. They're all Democrat, and you know how violent Democrat areas are.

Actually they do help the communities and offer a place where people can go when they need help on government programs that are available

Why aren't Republicans in minority neighborhoods? They don't even campaign there

Why don't they go in and explain all they do to help the less fortunate?

Why would Republicans go to areas where they can never win any votes? Democrats are helping the less fortunate? How? By giving their jobs to illegals? Maybe if they weren't doing that, blacks might not need your precious Community Outreach programs.

Maybe if Democrats spread the word that having children you can never afford will enslave you to government at least until those kids become adults, and probably give you a life of poverty yourself? Why don't the Democrats have programs in their public schools where the police hold seminars to explain to kids how to interact with police, why police demand the things they do of a suspect, and how to follow orders and respect authority? No, instead they encourage protesters to start riots and burn down their own towns.

Why can't Republicans win votes in black communities

All you have to do is show them all the jobs you are bringing to their community, show them all the legislation you pass that has made their lives better

It can't be that hard

As I stated, Republicans don't believe in passing certain legislation for certain people. Pass legislation that helps all. Those who wish to take advantage of it can. Those who don't want to don't.

The blacks are too indoctrinated to vote Republican. It's a voting block that cannot be penetrated.

 

[rightwinger]

And yet black people don’t vote Republican.

Hmmmm.

Exactly.

They side with the side that has fucked them up.

Funny how Republicans can’t convince them of that.

This is almost turning into blaming black people for not voting Republican, rather than blaming Republicans for not appealing to the black vote.

How does one appeal to the black vote?

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

I think you pointed out the problem and didn't even realize it. Maybe they don't need government for help in every aspect in life. Maybe they can do things on their own.

Great idea

Let's start providing opportunities so they can do things on their own
Once they are self sufficient ....we can cut back government programs

Why would you want to cut support before people become self sufficient!

 

[rightwinger]

We do
Democrats maintain community outreach offices in minority neighborhoods. Why won't Republicans

Why don't Republicans go to minority neighborhoods and point out all the good they do for the community?

So that's what Democrats gave the blacks--community outreach offices? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

Republicans can't go into minority neighborhoods. They're all Democrat, and you know how violent Democrat areas are.

Actually they do help the communities and offer a place where people can go when they need help on government programs that are available

Why aren't Republicans in minority neighborhoods? They don't even campaign there

Why don't they go in and explain all they do to help the less fortunate?

Why would Republicans go to areas where they can never win any votes? Democrats are helping the less fortunate? How? By giving their jobs to illegals? Maybe if they weren't doing that, blacks might not need your precious Community Outreach programs.

Maybe if Democrats spread the word that having children you can never afford will enslave you to government at least until those kids become adults, and probably give you a life of poverty yourself? Why don't the Democrats have programs in their public schools where the police hold seminars to explain to kids how to interact with police, why police demand the things they do of a suspect, and how to follow orders and respect authority? No, instead they encourage protesters to start riots and burn down their own towns.

Why can't Republicans win votes in black communities

All you have to do is show them all the jobs you are bringing to their community, show them all the legislation you pass that has made their lives better

It can't be that hard

As I stated, Republicans don't believe in passing certain legislation for certain people. Pass legislation that helps all. Those who wish to take advantage of it can. Those who don't want to don't.

The blacks are too indoctrinated to vote Republican. It's a voting block that cannot be penetrated.

Fine ......do that
Show blacks where legislation Republicans have passed has made their lives better

 

[MarcATL]

Your hypothesis is unrealistic. Republicans actively work to stop blacks from voting. And that's for starters.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

How does one appeal to the black vote?

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

I think you pointed out the problem and didn't even realize it. Maybe they don't need government for help in every aspect in life. Maybe they can do things on their own.

So why haven’t they?

Because they've been conditioned and even brainwashed by the Democrats that they are helpless. They can't do anything without a Democrat helping them.

That’s not insulting at all.

It couldn’t be that there’s been systemic racism against people of color since the beginning of our country.

No, they’ve just been brainwashed into believing something that doesn’t exist.

Don’t believe your own experiences, black folks. Ray from Cleveland knows better.

Then explain how many blacks do just fine with their lives. Explain why every black isn't getting gunned down by racist cops in this country.

This is the indoctrination I'm talking about. Don't blame personal irresponsibility, blame society instead. convince people that no matter what wrong they do in life, it isn't their fault. And then you wonder why many blacks don't even try to better themselves?

"Folks, when you promote irresponsibility, don't be surprised when you end up with more irresponsible people."
Rush Limbaugh

 

[SmokeALib]

It is not.

It is almost required, yes it is. Unless you are an exception, you hit the lottery, can shoot hoops, have some special talent etc.
a college diploma is necesssary to climb out of poverty, absolutely.

If you want to tell your kids they don’t need it fine, they can serve mine burgers and fries as they are climbing the economic ladder to success.

Or they can learn a trade in a trade school somewhere and be middle or upper-middle class.

Possessing a degree in a trade still puts your earning potential higher. It is very important our population has access to higher education. Trades are needed and respected but for the majority of employment opportunities a degree has massive benefits.

Sure it has massive benefits, and it also puts you in massive debt.

My nephew is 32 years old and he took a second job at a department store just to try and pay back his college loans as soon as possible. His Masters degree landed him a good paying job, but not enough to pay the tens of thousands back that he owes. He works at a school for troubled children and of course is off all summer. He works just as many hours at the store in the summer as he does his regular job during the school year.

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

It's because most of this "entitlement generation" are too stupid and/or too lazy to be educated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your hypothesis is unrealistic. Republicans actively work to stop blacks from voting. And that's for starters.

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Which is such utter bull. Quit letting these Democrats pull your strings like a puppet.

 

[SmokeALib]

Your hypothesis is unrealistic. Republicans actively work to stop blacks from voting. And that's for starters.

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More bullshit from the left.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Exactly.

They side with the side that has fucked them up.

Funny how Republicans can’t convince them of that.

This is almost turning into blaming black people for not voting Republican, rather than blaming Republicans for not appealing to the black vote.

How does one appeal to the black vote?

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

I think you pointed out the problem and didn't even realize it. Maybe they don't need government for help in every aspect in life. Maybe they can do things on their own.

Great idea

Let's start providing opportunities so they can do things on their own
Once they are self sufficient ....we can cut back government programs

Why would you want to cut support before people become self sufficient!

I don't. It's available to all people. Nothing in their way; nothing is stopping them but themselves.

You can lead a horse to water.............

 

[TNHarley]

How does one appeal to the black vote?

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

Do Democrats represent the interests of them?

Better than Republicans.

How?

It’s already been pointed out. Raising minimum wage, making healthcare more accessible and affordable, making education more accessible to all.

Minimum wage? What does that matter when the dems are flooding the market with competition?
What do the dems do about healthcare? They don't make it more affordable. They just make it free for poor people.
Education more accessible? How is that possible when it's already there for every kid?
And does that really matter to them anyways? Blacks have a 50% drop out rate.

 

[SmokeALib]

So that's what Democrats gave the blacks--community outreach offices? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

Republicans can't go into minority neighborhoods. They're all Democrat, and you know how violent Democrat areas are.

Actually they do help the communities and offer a place where people can go when they need help on government programs that are available

Why aren't Republicans in minority neighborhoods? They don't even campaign there

Why don't they go in and explain all they do to help the less fortunate?

Why would Republicans go to areas where they can never win any votes? Democrats are helping the less fortunate? How? By giving their jobs to illegals? Maybe if they weren't doing that, blacks might not need your precious Community Outreach programs.

Maybe if Democrats spread the word that having children you can never afford will enslave you to government at least until those kids become adults, and probably give you a life of poverty yourself? Why don't the Democrats have programs in their public schools where the police hold seminars to explain to kids how to interact with police, why police demand the things they do of a suspect, and how to follow orders and respect authority? No, instead they encourage protesters to start riots and burn down their own towns.

Why can't Republicans win votes in black communities

All you have to do is show them all the jobs you are bringing to their community, show them all the legislation you pass that has made their lives better

It can't be that hard

As I stated, Republicans don't believe in passing certain legislation for certain people. Pass legislation that helps all. Those who wish to take advantage of it can. Those who don't want to don't.

The blacks are too indoctrinated to vote Republican. It's a voting block that cannot be penetrated.

Fine ......do that
Show blacks where legislation Republicans have passed has made their lives better

Another lost leftist that believe legislators are needed to make their lives better.

 

[Aries]

It is almost required, yes it is. Unless you are an exception, you hit the lottery, can shoot hoops, have some special talent etc.
a college diploma is necesssary to climb out of poverty, absolutely.

If you want to tell your kids they don’t need it fine, they can serve mine burgers and fries as they are climbing the economic ladder to success.

Or they can learn a trade in a trade school somewhere and be middle or upper-middle class.

Possessing a degree in a trade still puts your earning potential higher. It is very important our population has access to higher education. Trades are needed and respected but for the majority of employment opportunities a degree has massive benefits.

Sure it has massive benefits, and it also puts you in massive debt.

My nephew is 32 years old and he took a second job at a department store just to try and pay back his college loans as soon as possible. His Masters degree landed him a good paying job, but not enough to pay the tens of thousands back that he owes. He works at a school for troubled children and of course is off all summer. He works just as many hours at the store in the summer as he does his regular job during the school year.

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

It's because most of this "entitlement generation" are too stupid and/or too lazy to be educated.

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to New York prison inmates

Sorry but I don’t buy your bullshit. Try selling it somewhere else.

 

[SmokeALib]

Or they can learn a trade in a trade school somewhere and be middle or upper-middle class.

Possessing a degree in a trade still puts your earning potential higher. It is very important our population has access to higher education. Trades are needed and respected but for the majority of employment opportunities a degree has massive benefits.

Sure it has massive benefits, and it also puts you in massive debt.

My nephew is 32 years old and he took a second job at a department store just to try and pay back his college loans as soon as possible. His Masters degree landed him a good paying job, but not enough to pay the tens of thousands back that he owes. He works at a school for troubled children and of course is off all summer. He works just as many hours at the store in the summer as he does his regular job during the school year.

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

It's because most of this "entitlement generation" are too stupid and/or too lazy to be educated.

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to New York prison inmates

Sorry but I don’t buy your bullshit. Try selling it somewhere else.

You're a leftist - you don't buy anything. You take.

 

[Aries]

Generally, represent the interests of the poor working class.

As more black people enter into other social classes, that will change. But the question is how to help black people into middle and upper class lives.

Do Democrats represent the interests of them?

Better than Republicans.

How?

It’s already been pointed out. Raising minimum wage, making healthcare more accessible and affordable, making education more accessible to all.

Minimum wage? What does that matter when the dems are flooding the market with competition?
What do the dems do about healthcare? They don't make it more affordable. They just make it free for poor people.
Education more accessible? How is that possible when it's already there for every kid?
And does that really matter to them anyways? Blacks have a 50% drop out rate.

Education is available to every kid? That’s a joke. High school is provided to every kid. College costs a small fortune and only rich kids have easy access to it. And like I’ve said before, when college is unaffordable high school seems like a waste. Why not just start working (low paying jobs) when that’s the only option they see?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

College is a business that provides a product. It's works the same way as any business. When the supply is more than the demand, the prices decrease. When the demand is higher than the supply, prices increase.

One of the reasons college is so expensive today is we have more people attending college than any other time in history. They can charge whatever they want. Add more demand, and what do you suppose would happen?

Most colleges are not Republican led. Most colleges are liberal, so don't blame Republicans for what liberals charge for education.

 

[SmokeALib]

Or they can learn a trade in a trade school somewhere and be middle or upper-middle class.

Possessing a degree in a trade still puts your earning potential higher. It is very important our population has access to higher education. Trades are needed and respected but for the majority of employment opportunities a degree has massive benefits.

Sure it has massive benefits, and it also puts you in massive debt.

My nephew is 32 years old and he took a second job at a department store just to try and pay back his college loans as soon as possible. His Masters degree landed him a good paying job, but not enough to pay the tens of thousands back that he owes. He works at a school for troubled children and of course is off all summer. He works just as many hours at the store in the summer as he does his regular job during the school year.

So what is there to do?!??!

Oh, we can make higher education more affordable. Then more citizens can have access to it. We would have a more educated population than ever and it would help us at home as well as on the world stage.

Tell me again why republicans refuse to discuss the cost of higher edu. Tell me again why trump and devos are making it harder to get loans and harder to pay back loans.

Oh that’s right, republicans only want rich kids in college. Keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. GOP motto.

It's because most of this "entitlement generation" are too stupid and/or too lazy to be educated.

Harvard's prestigious debate team loses to New York prison inmates

Sorry but I don’t buy your bullshit. Try selling it somewhere else.

Probably more telling about Harvard students than prison inmates...