I like this!

[Old Rocks]

There are some other ideas in the full article well worth exploring.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/belcher-carbon-0922.html

Every year, about 30 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide are pumped into the Earth’s atmosphere from power plants, cars and other industrial sources that rely on fossil fuels. Scientists who want to mitigate carbon dioxide’s effects on global climate have started experimenting with storing the gas underground, a process known as carbon sequestration. However, there are still many unknowns surrounding the safety and effectiveness of that strategy.

MIT engineer Angela Belcher is now taking a new approach that would not only remove carbon dioxide from the environment, but also turn it into something useful: solid carbonates that could be used for building construction.

“We want to capture carbon dioxide and not put it underground, but turn it into something that will be stable for hundreds of thousands of years,” says Belcher, the W.M. Keck Professor of Energy

 

[ScienceRocks]

Based on the natural forcing we would be cooling right now. May not went to take all the co2 out of the Atmosphere that humanity added to it, but just some.

 

[Old Rocks]

This is the kind of forward thinking that we need.

Solar Roads Fix The Grid And Crumbling Pavement | Autopia | Wired.com

We can fix the power grid, build an intelligent highway and a smart grid all in one swoop and move into the 21st century,” Brusaw said.

 

[IanC]

Good news for a change. It may be tough to scale up to a significant size but it is cool to see people developing new technologies.

 

[Old Rocks]

Based on the natural forcing we would be cooling right now. May not went to take all the co2 out of the Atmosphere that humanity added to it, but just some.

There are some industrial processes that cannot converted to electrical processes. Using this type of technology, one could capture the CO2 at the source, maybe even pay for the process doing it.

 

[Charles_Main]

There are some other ideas in the full article well worth exploring.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/belcher-carbon-0922.html

Every year, about 30 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide are pumped into the Earth’s atmosphere from power plants, cars and other industrial sources that rely on fossil fuels. Scientists who want to mitigate carbon dioxide’s effects on global climate have started experimenting with storing the gas underground, a process known as carbon sequestration. However, there are still many unknowns surrounding the safety and effectiveness of that strategy.

MIT engineer Angela Belcher is now taking a new approach that would not only remove carbon dioxide from the environment, but also turn it into something useful: solid carbonates that could be used for building construction.

“We want to capture carbon dioxide and not put it underground, but turn it into something that will be stable for hundreds of thousands of years,” says Belcher, the W.M. Keck Professor of Energy

This is one of the Technologies the Clean Coal people are working on using as well.

 

[westwall]

Good article. And it furhter illustrates what folks like me have been advocating for for a long while. Take the money away from the fraudsters and give it to people like this who actually do something with it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Good news for a change. It may be tough to scale up to a significant size but it is cool to see people developing new technologies.

You have identified one of the problems that exists with any new technology. However, this has interesting possibilites. First, we are already dealing with nano-tech biology, so it is simply another step in nano-tech to create not just the material, but a complete building panel.

Nanotechnology

 

[Old Rocks]

Good article. And it furhter illustrates what folks like me have been advocating for for a long while. Take the money away from the fraudsters and give it to people like this who actually do something with it.

Now how are you going to pry the money away from Exxon and the other people that are fighting any change?

 

[Old Rocks]

Solar Power - Sunny Side of the Street - Can Roads Be Used to Generate Solar Power?

Idaho Company Pioneers Using Roads to Generate Solar Power
Idaho-based company Solar Roadways is one of the trailblazers. Electrical engineer Scott Brusaw was inspired to start the company when he heard Caltech solar energy expert Nate Lewis suggest that covering just 1.7 percent of the continental U.S. land surface with photovoltaic solar collectors could produce enough power to meet the nation’s total energy demand.

US Interstate Highways Could Produce Enough Solar Power for the Whole World
Brusaw put two and two together when he realized that the interstate highway system already covers about that much of the nation’s land surface, so he got to work designing a system that combines a durable and translucent glass road surface with photovoltaic solar collectors that could be wired directly into the electricity grid. Brusaw’s innovative design would also heat the roads in winter, thus providing an important safety benefit.

With improvements in the efficiency of solar collectors in recent years, Brusaw believes his system, if implemented from coast-to-coast in place of the tarmac on existing highways, could produce enough energy to meet the electricity needs of the entire world.

 

[westwall]

Good article. And it furhter illustrates what folks like me have been advocating for for a long while. Take the money away from the fraudsters and give it to people like this who actually do something with it.

Now how are you going to pry the money away from Exxon and the other people that are fighting any change?

At least they provide us with a neccessary commodity. The fraudsters have taken over a 100 billion and given us nothing. Screw Exxon anyway they make plenty of money anyway. Take the money away from the climatologists who have given us bupkus for our money and give it to these folks. They'll do something good with it.

You really need to get off the case of the oil companies. Do some research and you will find they make about 3-6% on their investment. They then provide us with a commodity that allows us to live the life we lead. What have the climatologists provided for us?

One other thing, while I believe that most of the these "the oil company bought the patent so they could bury it" stories are mainly BS. Even if true the inventor is not required to sell to them now are they.

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Walleyes, you have yet to show where there has been 100 billion spent on ameliorating global warming. Until you show some kind of evidence for this kind of money having been spent, you are just posting your usual unsubstanciated yap-yap.

 

[saveliberty]

There are some other ideas in the full article well worth exploring.

Putting carbon dioxide to good use

Every year, about 30 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide are pumped into the Earth’s atmosphere from power plants, cars and other industrial sources that rely on fossil fuels. Scientists who want to mitigate carbon dioxide’s effects on global climate have started experimenting with storing the gas underground, a process known as carbon sequestration. However, there are still many unknowns surrounding the safety and effectiveness of that strategy.

MIT engineer Angela Belcher is now taking a new approach that would not only remove carbon dioxide from the environment, but also turn it into something useful: solid carbonates that could be used for building construction.

“We want to capture carbon dioxide and not put it underground, but turn it into something that will be stable for hundreds of thousands of years,” says Belcher, the W.M. Keck Professor of Energy

There is a commercial which talks about the system which takes CO2 and pumps it into the ground at power plants. The ad is sponsored by Coal companies. Sounds like useful technology.

 

[Old Rocks]

And, in some places, it might actually work. In all too many, it would leak out, just putting the release of the CO2 a little further down the road.

 

[saveliberty]

And, in some places, it might actually work. In all too many, it would leak out, just putting the release of the CO2 a little further down the road.

Large quantities of natural gas are stored in this manner. So the technology isn't that new. Yes, I agree, there needs to be a use for the stored gas or some process which solidifies it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sounds great in an "Ice Nine" kind of way

 

[skookerasbil]

There are some other ideas in the full article well worth exploring.

Putting carbon dioxide to good use

Every year, about 30 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide are pumped into the Earth’s atmosphere from power plants, cars and other industrial sources that rely on fossil fuels. Scientists who want to mitigate carbon dioxide’s effects on global climate have started experimenting with storing the gas underground, a process known as carbon sequestration. However, there are still many unknowns surrounding the safety and effectiveness of that strategy.

MIT engineer Angela Belcher is now taking a new approach that would not only remove carbon dioxide from the environment, but also turn it into something useful: solid carbonates that could be used for building construction.

“We want to capture carbon dioxide and not put it underground, but turn it into something that will be stable for hundreds of thousands of years,” says Belcher, the W.M. Keck Professor of Energy

well..........we're all real proud of ya for finding the link s0n.................

But the science debate is over in the political arena which makes posting this shit up akin to group navel contemplation.

Indeed...........in the political arena, the "consensus" isnt a consensus AT ALL!!!!

enjoy the navel contemplation exercise though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[antagon]

i've read of cement manufacture processes which reduce CO2 emissions, employing magnesium or aluminum compounds instead of lime as the major substrate.

for non-chemistry/non-concrete heads, calcination which entails super-heating lime (calcium carbonate) to create quick-lime (calcium oxide) releases CO2. i think magnesium chloride and water + less heat + CO2 is what it was. that means one method consumes CO2, while the status quo bellows it out. probably a downside, though. to start with, limestone is abundant. the ocean is full of magnesium salts, however. on the upside, this cement is dramatically stronger.

 

[antagon]

And, in some places, it might actually work. In all too many, it would leak out, just putting the release of the CO2 a little further down the road.

this is inevitable. it is one of the most communicated elements on the planet. i say the best bet is to augment the planet's natural carbon-capture-conversion mechanisms: plants and algae. apart from that, i think the obsession with CO2 represents a waste of time and money.

 

[saveliberty]

Just a guess, but if you could store it in a calcium rich water location you might promote calicum carbanate. Problem is, water will find its way somewhere.